IF Strasburg gets seriously injured again...

[elmalo]

I seriously believe that a combination of ******* sports writers and jealous fans are what caused Steve's injury.

Steve hadnt hard arm problems until he reached the majors where alot of people bashed him and said he is overrated, he wont live up to the hype and all that other crap.

So, Steve begins to doubt himself and starts overthinking himself which leads to incorrect mechanics and overexertion that inevitably causes him to get injured.

My uncle scouted him with the Jays, before the draft. Their conclusion was that he was an arm injury waiting to happen.

 

[elmalo]

Do people really believe that pitchers "up their game" in the Majors? As if they are just out there lobbing balls in AAA in hopes that they can somehow fool a ML team into calling them up so they can go full-throttle? lol

I thought they threw underhand in AAA.

 

[NECpilgrims8]

I seriously believe that a combination of ******* sports writers and jealous fans are what caused Steve's injury.

Steve hadnt hard arm problems until he reached the majors where alot of people bashed him and said he is overrated, he wont live up to the hype and all that other crap.

So, Steve begins to doubt himself and starts overthinking himself which leads to incorrect mechanics and overexertion that inevitably causes him to get injured.

My uncle scouted him with the Jays, before the draft. Their conclusion was that he was an arm injury waiting to happen.

He must be one smart Italian Latino!

Seriously though...

I'm going to trust the decision of an entire staff of PROFESSIONAL doctors, trainers, coaches, front office brass, and the player himself...over any person on a message board.

This whole thread is pure ridiculousness.

 

[ballerskrip]

I seriously believe that a combination of ******* sports writers and jealous fans are what caused Steve's injury.

Steve hadnt hard arm problems until he reached the majors where alot of people bashed him and said he is overrated, he wont live up to the hype and all that other crap.

So, Steve begins to doubt himself and starts overthinking himself which leads to incorrect mechanics and overexertion that inevitably causes him to get injured.

My uncle scouted him with the Jays, before the draft. Their conclusion was that he was an arm injury waiting to happen.

He must be one smart Italian Latino!

Seriously though...

I'm going to trust the decision of an entire staff of PROFESSIONAL doctors, trainers, coaches, front office brass, and the player himself...over any person on a message board.

This whole thread is pure ridiculousness.

So do you trust all of the scouting departments and front offices that think your boy Bauer is a health risk, etc? Since so many of the message board members seem to think they know better....

 

[NECpilgrims8]

I seriously believe that a combination of ******* sports writers and jealous fans are what caused Steve's injury.

Steve hadnt hard arm problems until he reached the majors where alot of people bashed him and said he is overrated, he wont live up to the hype and all that other crap.

So, Steve begins to doubt himself and starts overthinking himself which leads to incorrect mechanics and overexertion that inevitably causes him to get injured.

My uncle scouted him with the Jays, before the draft. Their conclusion was that he was an arm injury waiting to happen.

He must be one smart Italian Latino!

Seriously though...

I'm going to trust the decision of an entire staff of PROFESSIONAL doctors, trainers, coaches, front office brass, and the player himself...over any person on a message board.

This whole thread is pure ridiculousness.

So do you trust all of the scouting departments and front offices that think your boy Bauer is a health risk, etc? Since so many of the message board members seem to think they know better....

There is a difference between trusting all of the "scouting departments and front offices" and trusting HIS entire group of professionals (scouts, front office, trainers, doctors, the player himself).

I could care less what the rest of the league's professionals think. It really boils down to who is directly in touch with that player, and in this case, I believe in the Nationals and their decision. Same goes for the Diamondbacks and Bauer himself in regards to that "health risk".

Honestly, I'm around this stuff all day at my business (clearly not on this level), so I've learned to differentiate it all.

 

[uniquebaseballcards]

Not trying to jinx him, but he'll probably get injured in a new way this time LOL.

Seriously, anyone can get injured at any time, its a legitimate question to ask about Stras. Maybe he's unlucky.

Its funny how some players who came up big and become complete MLB failures still have a limited hobby following because of their initial hype. People who didn't experience the hype of such guys - especially young collectors - just go ::facepalm:: when they see these cards sell for more than they "should" sell for.

 

[Joshua.Roundtree]

Do people really believe that pitchers "up their game" in the Majors? As if they are just out there lobbing balls in AAA in hopes that they can somehow fool a ML team into calling them up so they can go full-throttle? lol

I thought they threw underhand in AAA.

They do in the Pacific Coast League

 

[Wes]

"Predicting" an injury for a pitcher is a joke. How many major leaguers go through an entire career without some kind of injury?

 

[scotty21690]

"Predicting" an injury for a pitcher is a joke. How many major leaguers go through an entire career without some kind of injury?

7

 

[ballerskrip]

"Predicting" an injury for a pitcher is a joke. How many major leaguers go through an entire career without some kind of injury?

Agreed. I am HOPING that nothing happens to the kid. It will be fun to watch.

skrip

 

[NECpilgrims8]

"Predicting" an injury for a pitcher is a joke. How many major leaguers go through an entire career without some kind of injury?

Says the man with the largest Strasburg stash known to man

No, but seriously, It's actually very tough to need tommy john treatment again. If that happens, it's because of a bad surgeon, and I doubt he had anything but the best.

 

[Wes]

"Predicting" an injury for a pitcher is a joke. How many major leaguers go through an entire career without some kind of injury?

7

This claim that people "knew" Strasburg was going to get hurt is nonsense. Guess what, I'm going to predict (insert ANY pitcher here) gets hurt because of their mechanics. It won't make me right or some kind of savant when it happens. Throwing a ball at max effort is a difficult thing for a human being to do. People get hurt.

 

[elmalo]

I seriously believe that a combination of ******* sports writers and jealous fans are what caused Steve's injury.

Steve hadnt hard arm problems until he reached the majors where alot of people bashed him and said he is overrated, he wont live up to the hype and all that other crap.

So, Steve begins to doubt himself and starts overthinking himself which leads to incorrect mechanics and overexertion that inevitably causes him to get injured.

My uncle scouted him with the Jays, before the draft. Their conclusion was that he was an arm injury waiting to happen.

He must be one smart Italian Latino!

Seriously though...

I'm going to trust the decision of an entire staff of PROFESSIONAL doctors, trainers, coaches, front office brass, and the player himself...over any person on a message board.

This whole thread is pure ridiculousness.

He is an Italian and a AAA pitching coach, so yes, I would say he knows what he is talking about. Thy never said that they wouldnt draft him, or that he wasnt an amazing talent, or didnt hav great potential. All they said was that with his mechanics he was very susceptable to injury. They didnt have any shot at him anyway, so it didnt really matter.

 

[Mr.Whipple]

I seriously believe that a combination of ******* sports writers and jealous fans are what caused Steve's injury.

Steve hadnt hard arm problems until he reached the majors where alot of people bashed him and said he is overrated, he wont live up to the hype and all that other crap.j

So, Steve begins to doubt himself and starts overthinking himself which leads to incorrect mechanics and overexertion that inevitably causes him to get injured.

Or maybe Steve is an arrogant jerk and tried proving himself to be somethi he is not. Nationals fans could easily get autos after games, but Steve had that all changed when he came up. But I cashed in on him a ways back, so I could care less now. I didn't listen to the prospectors and bought a 20 auto lot of all USA stuff for a grand and made 2300 bucks after fees.

But like already said in this thread he is MP2 and bringing him back when you're 28 games out is kinda dumb.

 

[rum151man]

It would destroy a lot more than his hobby value. I think they're making a mistake by bringing him up this season.

Making a mistake how? It's not like he would be doing anything significantly different pitching in a game at any other level. He would be doing the exact same thing in Washington as he would be in the MiLB or a Spring Training complex, only the hitters he's facing are much better in DC.

His pitch count will be monitored closely, and he will not be over extended, since they've got a lot invested in him.

I think your wrong in the minors he could take his time and theres really no pressure for him to well or throw 100mph they are out of the race so why bring him up? let him take his time down there without all the pressure of the fans and espn following every pitch even though they still do now but still. you honestly think he will be throwing the same to some guy in AA or AAA as aposed to albert pujols, Braun, Jeter ect ???? give me a break. in my opinion they are making an unnecessary mistake here.

 

[rum151man]

Do people really believe that pitchers "up their game" in the Majors? As if they are just out there lobbing balls in AAA in hopes that they can somehow fool a ML team into calling them up so they can go full-throttle? lol

do you really beleive that every player plays 100% all the time???
I think theres a huge difference between AAA and the majors, maybe if your a guy trying to make it in the bigs yeah your going all out for your chance at the bigs. But if your a star and your playing down a level its just not the same. sorry your wrong here.
its like me trying to play mens league softball after playing baseball my whole life all the way through college its just not the same. the competition factor is just not there for me.

so you honestly think the biggest pitching prospect ever in baseball throws exactlt the same in his rehab starts then he would in MLB game against the best players in the world.

he knows in a AA game if he scrues up oh well nobody really cares, or if things are going well he be out in the 4th-5th inning abd hes still a hereo to everyone on the bench and the crowd.

ITS NOT THE SAME

 

[sportscardtheory]

Do people really believe that pitchers "up their game" in the Majors? As if they are just out there lobbing balls in AAA in hopes that they can somehow fool a ML team into calling them up so they can go full-throttle? lol

do you really beleive that every player plays 100% all the time???
I think theres a huge difference between AAA and the majors, maybe if your a guy trying to make it in the bigs yeah your going all out for your chance at the bigs. But if your a star and your playing down a level its just not the same. sorry your wrong here.
its like me trying to play mens league softball after playing baseball my whole life all the way through college its just not the same. the competition factor is just not there for me.

so you honestly think the biggest pitching prospect ever in baseball throws exactlt the same in his rehab starts then he would in MLB game against the best players in the world.

he knows in a AA game if he scrues up oh well nobody really cares, or if things are going well he be out in the 4th-5th inning abd hes still a hereo to everyone on the bench and the crowd.

ITS NOT THE SAME

Listen, dude. He's wasn't down in AAA throwing lob balls. The workload will be heavier in the Majors, but no kidding. How on earth would they ever know he was ready if he wasn't throwing in AAA just like he normally throws. "Hey, Stephen. You've been maxing out at 92 MPH and pitching 60 pitches per game. YOU'RE READY FOR THE BIGS AGAIN!"

Uh, NOOO.

 

[rum151man]

Do people really believe that pitchers "up their game" in the Majors? As if they are just out there lobbing balls in AAA in hopes that they can somehow fool a ML team into calling them up so they can go full-throttle? lol

do you really beleive that every player plays 100% all the time???
I think theres a huge difference between AAA and the majors, maybe if your a guy trying to make it in the bigs yeah your going all out for your chance at the bigs. But if your a star and your playing down a level its just not the same. sorry your wrong here.
its like me trying to play mens league softball after playing baseball my whole life all the way through college its just not the same. the competition factor is just not there for me.

so you honestly think the biggest pitching prospect ever in baseball throws exactlt the same in his rehab starts then he would in MLB game against the best players in the world.

he knows in a AA game if he scrues up oh well nobody really cares, or if things are going well he be out in the 4th-5th inning abd hes still a hereo to everyone on the bench and the crowd.

ITS NOT THE SAME

Listen, dude. He's wasn't down in AAA throwing lob balls. The workload will be heavier in the Majors, but no kidding. How on earth would they ever know he was ready if he wasn't throwing in AAA just like he normally throws. "Hey, Stephen. You've been maxing out at 92 MPH and pitching 60 pitches per game. YOU'RE READY FOR THE BIGS AGAIN!"

Uh, NOOO.

thing is he doesnt need to be ready for the bigs this year....... Whats the rush ????????? whats wrong with spring training next year after hes had all offseason to work out and get prepared ????? they will be kicking themselves foooorrrreeeeevvvvvvveeeerrrr if he gets hurt again this season.

 

[RL24]

I agree with the theory that you do take it easier in AAA, and when facing people like Pujols the change of overextending oneself is much higher than it is when facing Bill Smith of the Tacoma Turkeys.

I think it's crazy that they're taking this unnecessary risk.

 

[matfanofold]

I agree that the teams doctors, and managers probablly know more about the situation here and are doing right. Infact, I believe that now, being 28 games out, is the perfect time to bring him up. Much less pressure and expectation(s) due to not being a contender. A perfect time to ease his way back in MLB form before spring. If the Nats were in the playoff hunt or otherwise making a bid for the pennant, I'd say the pressures of such would probablly not be a ideal situation to bring him in to, but as it is I see this as the perfect time.