Instant Replay Thoughts

[Plano26]

So, been watching MLB Tv and listening local sport radio and the big discussion is instant replay in baseball; while I'm all for using the technology we have to ensure calls/plays are correctly judge by the ump/ref etc; but also, I'm a purist that believes the game should be as is.

That being said; I'm trying figure out how IR would be used in baseball, here are my following points:

1. How many times does a team/manger get to have a played IR'd? And if they get it incorrect then what happens to the team/manager? i.e., in football they loose a timeout. No Time limit in Baseball?

2. Baseball by nature is a game that have a wonderful rhythm; from one inning to the next until the best team wins, no matter how long it takes; and you can't predict when something "Might" happen.
If you would use your IR in say the 4th inning for a play and your all out of IR's then what about that play in the 8th or 9th? Or should there be a limit of how many IRs a team gets; but then how slow will the game become? How would a manager know when to use it? Say for instance Buster in last nights game, if the next pitch happen to result in a double play then did using a IR be useful? There is just know way to determine "what might happen next".

3. If you use it for only game winning plays, i.e, is the run out at home etc..I have no problems using it that way; or for instance the catch that should of been the 3rd our in the 1st Playoff game of Twin & Yanks;

Outside using it for #3; I don't see how it could be implemented wisely and fairly.

Thoughts?
Mitch

 

[miguelcabrera]

selig would never go through with it cuz then the yanks couldnt get to the world series

 

[miguelcabrera]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/4859 ... rkman-call

 

[Hallsgator]

Replay is fine the way it is now.

 

[TBTwinsFan]

Use the LLWS rules.

 

[jeff550]

just have a guy up ina the booth, watching the game, and if the manager wants IR, the guy in the booth gives a quick decison.

 

[uniquebaseballcards]

The more IR or computers are used in the game, the more about stats the game will become. The game will really suck if all that mattered were stats - and this is coming from a guy who appreciates his stats.

 

[Hallsgator]

The more IR or computers are used in the game, the more about stats the game will become. The game will really suck if all that mattered were stats - and this is coming from a guy who appreciates his stats.

I fail to see the connection between instant replay and stats?

 

[bouwob]

I think that their should a replay ump who just watches the video and can correct when they see a problem. No instant replay, just fixes on wrong calls.

I also think that the strike zone should be based solely on computers. They already grade the umps on the computer systems, why not just have them take over and then the zone is the same for every pitcher and every umpire.

 

[hail2thevictors]

I've been on the fence about instant replay, but after watching Chase Utley pull off a Hollywood-esque acting job, the MLB must add instant replay. I'm getting tired of guys acting, as Utley did, it's just becoming too ridiculous.

 

[uniquebaseballcards]

The more IR or computers are used in the game, the more about stats the game will become. The game will really suck if all that mattered were stats - and this is coming from a guy who appreciates his stats.

I fail to see the connection between instant replay and stats?

Diminishing the role of the ump reduces the amount of human interaction in the game, thereby making it more predictable. Stats are used to (at least try to) make predictions all the time.

 

[Hallsgator]

The more IR or computers are used in the game, the more about stats the game will become. The game will really suck if all that mattered were stats - and this is coming from a guy who appreciates his stats.

I fail to see the connection between instant replay and stats?

Diminishing the role of the ump reduces the amount of human interaction in the game, thereby making it more predictable. Stats are used to (at least try to) make predictions all the time.

I don't understand how replays affect that. The players have been getting stats the past 130 years with umps.

 

[uniquebaseballcards]

The more IR or computers are used in the game, the more about stats the game will become. The game will really suck if all that mattered were stats - and this is coming from a guy who appreciates his stats.

I fail to see the connection between instant replay and stats?

Diminishing the role of the ump reduces the amount of human interaction in the game, thereby making it more predictable. Stats are used to (at least try to) make predictions all the time.

I don't understand how replays affect that. The players have been getting stats the past 130 years with umps.

LOL, I'll try again. The likelihood something will happen will be easier to determine when less of a (subjective) human element is involved.

Things are harder to predict with a subjective human involved as opposed to when an objective computer or technology is involved. Humans naturally make mistakes and aren't necessarily consistent.

 

[Hallsgator]

The more IR or computers are used in the game, the more about stats the game will become. The game will really suck if all that mattered were stats - and this is coming from a guy who appreciates his stats.

I fail to see the connection between instant replay and stats?

Diminishing the role of the ump reduces the amount of human interaction in the game, thereby making it more predictable. Stats are used to (at least try to) make predictions all the time.

I don't understand how replays affect that. The players have been getting stats the past 130 years with umps.

LOL, I'll try again. The likelihood something will happen will be easier to determine when less of a (subjective) human element is involved.

Things are harder to predict with a subjective human involved as opposed to when an objective computer or technology is involved. Humans naturally make mistakes and aren't necessarily consistent.

How often do umpires really affect stats? They aren't constantly getting strikes wrong, or calling runners out when safe.

It just seems that way because ESPN has 30 minute analysis on every missed/blown call, especially in the postseason.

 

[GiantsSuperCollector]

Bobby Cox said it best, there will be too many flags thrown on the field. It should only be for balls down the line and home-runs, nothing else.

 

[Hallsgator]

Bobby Cox said it best, there will be too many flags thrown on the field. It should only be for balls down the line and home-runs, nothing else.

Agreed.

 

[uniquebaseballcards]

How often do umpires really affect stats? They aren't constantly getting strikes wrong, or calling runners out when safe.

It just seems that way because ESPN has 30 minute analysis on every missed/blown call, especially in the postseason.

Wins and losses alone are the most important stats and we know umps on occasion influence the outcome of games, this is obviously a primary reason for this discussion.

But also consider how much umps are affecting games - and a myriad stats - when an ump consistently calls strikes two inches off the plate? Some batters can't hit pitches out there. Umps have a bigger influence than people think.

If umps weren't getting things wrong enough, there wouldn't be a need for this thread

 

[Hallsgator]

If a player can't hit a ball 2 inches off the plate, then their stats will suck regardless.


How how many times is player out due to the umpire missing a call? Enough to shave .05 points off his batting average, take away one or two steals?

 

[uniquebaseballcards]

Even many good players hit pitches better two inches inside as opposed to two inches outside, or vice versa. Or high and low. Technically we're talking an 'error' of four inches if the ump maintains plate size.

If a player can't hit a ball 2 inches off the plate, then their stats will suck regardless.

 

[Hallsgator]

Even many good players hit pitches better two inches inside as opposed to two inches outside, or vice versa. Or high and low. Technically we're talking an 'error' of four inches if the ump maintains plate size.

If a player can't hit a ball 2 inches off the plate, then their stats will suck regardless.

They may hit them better, but they can still hit the pitches just off the plate. If they can't, not many people will worry about their stats anyway.

And how many umps constantly call pitches off the plate? Maybe a couple a game. Not to mention players tend to know an umps strike zone before a game, and if they don't, they will be the second time they are at the plate. If a ump does have a wider strike zone, players know this and make adjustments.