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I know I'm going to be in the minority on this, but I don't have a problem with it.
 

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I read this earlier and agreed with everything that was said. I have lost a lot of respect for Lebron after this happened.
 

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Tomlinson21RB said:
I know I'm going to be in the minority on this, but I don't have a problem with it.
I'd like to ask you a serious question - What don't you agree with?
 

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Tomlinson21RB said:
I know I'm going to be in the minority on this, but I don't have a problem with it.
I'd like to ask you a serious question - What don't you agree with?
What are you asking? I don't agree with murder, rape, or stealing amongst other things? Did that answer the question?
 

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Tomlinson21RB said:
I know I'm going to be in the minority on this, but I don't have a problem with it.
+1
So what if he didn't congratulate the Magic? I mean, I would have if I were him, but geez, it's not that big of a deal. I don't think of LeBron any differently after last night. I personally don't care if he's a "poor sport." It's not like he committed dirty fouls or anything during the games.
 

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Wehttam6 said:
Tomlinson21RB said:
I know I'm going to be in the minority on this, but I don't have a problem with it.
+1
So what if he didn't congratulate the Magic? I mean, I would have if I were him, but geez, it's not that big of a deal. I don't think of LeBron any differently after last night. I personally don't care if he's a "poor sport." It's not like he committed dirty fouls or anything during the games.

Plus, what do those fake handshakes really mean? When Bill Belichick has the 1/2 second handshake with Eric Mangini after a football game that is below meaningless. Neither guy likes the other and neither is congratulating the other on the inside. It's all for show.

This isn't tee ball where everyone gets a trophy at the end of the year. Since I just brought up baseball, can we get an article blasting every single professional baseball player for being a poor sport? I never see them shaking hands with the other team after the game or a playoff series?
 

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Tomlinson21RB said:
Wehttam6 said:
Tomlinson21RB said:
I know I'm going to be in the minority on this, but I don't have a problem with it.
+1
So what if he didn't congratulate the Magic? I mean, I would have if I were him, but geez, it's not that big of a deal. I don't think of LeBron any differently after last night. I personally don't care if he's a "poor sport." It's not like he committed dirty fouls or anything during the games.

Plus, what do those fake handshakes really mean? When Bill Belichick has the 1/2 second handshake with Eric Mangini after a football game that is below meaningless. Neither guy likes the other and neither is congratulating the other on the inside. It's all for show.

This isn't tee ball where everyone gets a trophy at the end of the year. Since I just brought up baseball, can we get an article blasting every single professional baseball player for being a poor sport? I never see them shaking hands with the other team after the game or a playoff series?
At the very least, it teaches a little sportsmanship to the millions of kids watching. It's about showing a little class. It's about coming down off of your unjustified throne in the heavens where you've been placed for a moment to show honor. It's about love and respect for the game. It's about not being an ass. It's about being able to hold your head up high. It's the only way you're not a complete loser after you fail even after giving your all. I could go on, but I think that's enough.

Hands aren't always shaken at the end of every playoff game because there's another to follow. It's done at the end of a series because the competitiveness ends there.

Perhaps we should tell our children that if they lose that little league game, they should just walk off. Don't do the ceremonial handslap after. If you don't win, leave as much of a loser as possible.
 

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Card Magnet said:
Tomlinson21RB said:
Wehttam6 said:
Tomlinson21RB said:
I know I'm going to be in the minority on this, but I don't have a problem with it.
+1
So what if he didn't congratulate the Magic? I mean, I would have if I were him, but geez, it's not that big of a deal. I don't think of LeBron any differently after last night. I personally don't care if he's a "poor sport." It's not like he committed dirty fouls or anything during the games.

Plus, what do those fake handshakes really mean? When Bill Belichick has the 1/2 second handshake with Eric Mangini after a football game that is below meaningless. Neither guy likes the other and neither is congratulating the other on the inside. It's all for show.

This isn't tee ball where everyone gets a trophy at the end of the year. Since I just brought up baseball, can we get an article blasting every single professional baseball player for being a poor sport? I never see them shaking hands with the other team after the game or a playoff series?
At the very least, it teaches a little sportsmanship to the millions of kids watching. It's about showing a little class. It's about coming down off of your unjustified throne in the heavens where you've been placed for a moment to show honor. It's about love and respect for the game. It's about not being an ass. It's about being able to hold your head up high. It's the only way you're not a complete loser after you fail even after giving your all. I could go on, but I think that's enough.

Hands aren't always shaken at the end of every playoff game because there's another to follow. It's done at the end of a series because the competitiveness ends there.

Perhaps we should tell our children that if they lose that little league game, they should just walk off. Don't do the ceremonial handslap after. If you don't win, leave as much of a loser as possible.

The difference is these aren't children. These are guys getting paid millions to go out and destroy each other for an entire series. I like that there was a little anger about it. It shows he cares. This kind of crap didn't happen in the old days. Rivals literally hated each other and played harder because of it. It's all the ********* p.c. nonsense that has hurt sports and life in general.

I do disagree with him not doing the post game interviews and leaving West and Williams to do it. I think he should have been fined for that.
 

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Tomlinson21RB said:
Card Magnet said:
Tomlinson21RB said:
Wehttam6 said:
Tomlinson21RB said:
I know I'm going to be in the minority on this, but I don't have a problem with it.
+1
So what if he didn't congratulate the Magic? I mean, I would have if I were him, but geez, it's not that big of a deal. I don't think of LeBron any differently after last night. I personally don't care if he's a "poor sport." It's not like he committed dirty fouls or anything during the games.

Plus, what do those fake handshakes really mean? When Bill Belichick has the 1/2 second handshake with Eric Mangini after a football game that is below meaningless. Neither guy likes the other and neither is congratulating the other on the inside. It's all for show.

This isn't tee ball where everyone gets a trophy at the end of the year. Since I just brought up baseball, can we get an article blasting every single professional baseball player for being a poor sport? I never see them shaking hands with the other team after the game or a playoff series?
At the very least, it teaches a little sportsmanship to the millions of kids watching. It's about showing a little class. It's about coming down off of your unjustified throne in the heavens where you've been placed for a moment to show honor. It's about love and respect for the game. It's about not being an ass. It's about being able to hold your head up high. It's the only way you're not a complete loser after you fail even after giving your all. I could go on, but I think that's enough.

Hands aren't always shaken at the end of every playoff game because there's another to follow. It's done at the end of a series because the competitiveness ends there.

Perhaps we should tell our children that if they lose that little league game, they should just walk off. Don't do the ceremonial handslap after. If you don't win, leave as much of a loser as possible.

The difference is these aren't children. These are guys getting paid millions to go out and destroy each other for an entire series. I like that there was a little anger about it. It shows he cares. This kind of crap didn't happen in the old days. Rivals literally hated each other and played harder because of it. It's all the bull shat p.c. nonsense that has hurt sports and life in general.

I do disagree with him not doing the post game interviews and leaving West and Williams to do it. I think he should have been fined for that.


Agree with everything Tomlinson said, plus I am willing to bet Lebron has called Dwight and others(remember they were teamates in the summer) and congratulated/wished him luck. No one made a big deal of it, but I don't think Kobe shook or acknowledged Dhanty Jones at all. I was looking for it and Jones tapped Kobe on the back and he just kept moving toward Carmelo...
 

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Does anyone recall a similar situation like this happening before with Lebron? I somewhat remember like last year or the year before, there was a game where the cavs were losing by DD, and there was still like 34 seconds left in the game, and there was a foul called, and lebron just walked off the court into the locker room. Not even to the bench to wait until the game was over, but straight to the locker room. Since that time, i always knew that lebron was a poor sport, and like the article says, if you can go around posing to take snapshots of the team, and prance around like you are unbeatable, then you should have to sit there with humility in a time of defeat to a superior competitor, and not sit there and say that you aren't going to sit there and shake the hands of someone that "beat" you up. I would understand if the Orlando Magic were talking trash, and played dirty, and intentionally tried hurt Lebron during the series, then that's a different story, but none of that happened. Just plain & simple, he's a poor sport.
 

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I think he was upset that he got NO help in this series and it all hit him at once.I'm a little disappointed that he didn't shake hands,but i'm going to be that upset about it.It's so easy for the fan,media to slam him,but will never have the pressure on them like he does trying to bring a championship to Cleveland!
 

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Tomlinson21RB said:
Card Magnet said:
Tomlinson21RB said:
Wehttam6 said:
Tomlinson21RB said:
I know I'm going to be in the minority on this, but I don't have a problem with it.
+1
So what if he didn't congratulate the Magic? I mean, I would have if I were him, but geez, it's not that big of a deal. I don't think of LeBron any differently after last night. I personally don't care if he's a "poor sport." It's not like he committed dirty fouls or anything during the games.

Plus, what do those fake handshakes really mean? When Bill Belichick has the 1/2 second handshake with Eric Mangini after a football game that is below meaningless. Neither guy likes the other and neither is congratulating the other on the inside. It's all for show.

This isn't tee ball where everyone gets a trophy at the end of the year. Since I just brought up baseball, can we get an article blasting every single professional baseball player for being a poor sport? I never see them shaking hands with the other team after the game or a playoff series?
At the very least, it teaches a little sportsmanship to the millions of kids watching. It's about showing a little class. It's about coming down off of your unjustified throne in the heavens where you've been placed for a moment to show honor. It's about love and respect for the game. It's about not being an ass. It's about being able to hold your head up high. It's the only way you're not a complete loser after you fail even after giving your all. I could go on, but I think that's enough.

Hands aren't always shaken at the end of every playoff game because there's another to follow. It's done at the end of a series because the competitiveness ends there.

Perhaps we should tell our children that if they lose that little league game, they should just walk off. Don't do the ceremonial handslap after. If you don't win, leave as much of a loser as possible.

The difference is these aren't children. These are guys getting paid millions to go out and destroy each other for an entire series. I like that there was a little anger about it. It shows he cares. This kind of crap didn't happen in the old days. Rivals literally hated each other and played harder because of it. It's all the bull shat p.c. nonsense that has hurt sports and life in general.

I do disagree with him not doing the post game interviews and leaving West and Williams to do it. I think he should have been fined for that.
100% correct. He has to know it's a business, and it's his obligation to the business that is the NBA and Cleveland Cavaliers to do a post game interview, so he absolutely has to be fined for that. Everything else, though, is totally whatever.
I'm not a little kid anymore, so I need to ask a question about role models. Are little kids really impressionable to the point that they do every little thing their role model does? I think everyone is born knowing that shaking your opponent's hand is the right thing to do. So doesn't it seem like the over-coverage of this issue might end up doing more harm than good? All of a sudden, parents need to undo the bad lesson that has been given to them due to the absurd over-coverage. IMO, if it were mentioned at all, it should've been commented on once, denounced and then forgotten.
 

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I've been wondering the same thing. Had no one pointed this out and debated it over and over on tv/radio/internet, would anyone even have noticed?
 

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Bornagaincollector said:
I think he was upset that he got NO help in this series and it all hit him at once.I'm a little disappointed that he didn't shake hands,but i'm going to be that upset about it.It's so easy for the fan,media to slam him,but will never have the pressure on them like he does trying to bring a championship to Cleveland!
So the fact that he has had no help since his arrival in Cleveland escaped him until now? If he didn't want to shake hands fine, but it's so hypocritical to stand around after he wins for everyone to come up and congratulate him. What Lebron showed the world is that he is a little bitch.
 

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Rickzcards said:
Bornagaincollector said:
I think he was upset that he got NO help in this series and it all hit him at once.I'm a little disappointed that he didn't shake hands,but i'm going to be that upset about it.It's so easy for the fan,media to slam him,but will never have the pressure on them like he does trying to bring a championship to Cleveland!
So the fact that he has had no help since his arrival in Cleveland escaped until now? If he didn't want to shake hands fine, but it's so hypocritical to stand around after he wins for everyone to come up and congratulate him. What Lebron showed the world is that he is a little bitch.
Spot on.

In the words of Matt from Sports Soup, "Now you don't have to worry about those comparisons to Kobe and MJ. You can be you. Maybe join ringless Karl Malone."
 

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Rickzcards said:
Bornagaincollector said:
I think he was upset that he got NO help in this series and it all hit him at once.I'm a little disappointed that he didn't shake hands,but i'm going to be that upset about it.It's so easy for the fan,media to slam him,but will never have the pressure on them like he does trying to bring a championship to Cleveland!
So the fact that he has had no help since his arrival in Cleveland escaped him until now? If he didn't want to shake hands fine, but it's so hypocritical to stand around after he wins for everyone to come up and congratulate him. What Lebron showed the world is that he is a little bitch.
It is hypocritical, but let's look at the body of work. Lebron has always been one of the classiest guys in a league full of thugs. He does a fantastic job of embracing the role of "face of the league." Kobe has also embraced that role in the last year or so (but not at all before that). I am not going to let one loss redefine my opinions of Lebron.
 

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KandKCards said:
Rickzcards said:
Bornagaincollector said:
I think he was upset that he got NO help in this series and it all hit him at once.I'm a little disappointed that he didn't shake hands,but i'm going to be that upset about it.It's so easy for the fan,media to slam him,but will never have the pressure on them like he does trying to bring a championship to Cleveland!
So the fact that he has had no help since his arrival in Cleveland escaped him until now? If he didn't want to shake hands fine, but it's so hypocritical to stand around after he wins for everyone to come up and congratulate him. What Lebron showed the world is that he is a little bitch.
It is hypocritical, but let's look at the body of work. Lebron has always been one of the classiest guys in a league full of thugs. He does a fantastic job of embracing the role of "face of the league." Kobe has also embraced that role in the last year or so (but not at all before that). I am not going to let one loss redefine my opinions of Lebron.

And likewise, the people complaining (not just here, but in general) for the most part already had something against him. Nothing he could have done would have changed that. If he had given Dwight a quick handshake and run off to the locker room it would have been called insincere or something else would have been wrong. Apparently Lebron has become a very polarizing figure in the NBA, and I'm not quite sure. He's been a great face for the league, has done amazing things on the court, and has had no trouble off the court. People have said here that it's because of the over exposure, and if that is the case I truly feel bad for those people for putting the blinders on for what could become one of the greatest careers in NBA history.

And once again I'll say, remember that MJ didn't win until he got Pippen and Kobe didn't win without Shaq (until maybe this year, but he has Gasol). It takes two stars to win. The Cavs have one.
 

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I didn't this posted.
LeBron was fined $25,000 for skipping the post-game interviews.
 

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