Is Paul Konerko gonna end up a HOFer?

[gt2590]

I've always called him "The AL hitting machine". But after seeing him mash some more this season, I got to wonder if Paul Konerko is going to end up in Cooperstown...

He's 35, but IF the DH sticks around, he could easily play 5 more years. And if you look at his numbers, he'd probably reach some HOF-type numbers and plateaus.

So far: .281, 1930 Hits, 378 HRs, 1202 RBIs, .357 OBP, .500 SLG, .856 OPS. 2005 ALCS MVP

and 9 SBs. :lol:

It looks like 500 HRs, 2500 hits and 1500 RBIs are definitely possible, if not probable. I'd have to think those levels would put him in Cooperstown. Also, I've never heard his name in the steroid or PED whispers.

Any thoughts?

 

[mwashuc06]

No, reminds me of Fred McGriff.

 

[excel_B]

I will not go to Hall of Fame after Konerko gets in...

 

[alabamalongsnake]

alcs mvp not the year mvp

no - he's like Fred McGriff as previous poster replied, Tino Martinez

http://www.baseball-reference.com/playe ... pa01.shtml

 

[Lars]

Hall of Very Good, but not quite Hall of Fame material.

 

[Card Magnet]

Yes. Not first ballot, but yet.

If you take not only his stats into account, but his also his character and how he has represented the game, he deserves to be there. It's not the Hall of Stats. There are other aspects that are a part of the Hall of Fame checklist.

 

[uniquebaseballcards]

Yes. Not first ballot, but yet.

If you take not only his stats into account, but his also his character and how he has represented the game, he deserves to be there. It's not the Hall of Stats. There are other aspects that are a part of the Hall of Fame checklist.

I'm leaning this way myself, he'll get extra consideration if he was believed to have been clean.

Crime Dog is getting about 20% of the votes now. I think championships help a lot here.

 

[DeliciousBacon]

He's one of the most criminally underrated players over the last decade-plus. He's always putting up good numbers, never gets in any kind of PED drama, been with one team for years (a rare thing these days)...yet no one gives a damn about him. Consistancy isn't sexy, so putting up good numbers every year just doesn't get people excited. Playing for the White Sox doesn't help, as they don't really have a huge nationwide fanbase like the Cubs, Red Sox or Yankees. Guy's not even a semistar according to Beckett!

As much as I like the guy, I doubt he's worthy of HOF induction. He's never really been a dominant superstar. In 20 years or so, when people rattle off the names of the legends of our era, it'll take a long time before his name gets mentioned. That's not a mark of a Hall of Famer.

 

[alabamalongsnake]

also thinking of Dale Murphy

 

[uniquebaseballcards]

He's one of the most criminally underrated players over the last decade-plus. He's always putting up good numbers, never gets in any kind of PED drama, been with one team for years (a rare thing these days)...yet no one gives a damn about him. Consistancy isn't sexy, so putting up good numbers every year just doesn't get people excited. Playing for the White Sox doesn't help, as they don't really have a huge nationwide fanbase like the Cubs, Red Sox or Yankees. Guy's not even a semistar according to Beckett!

As much as I like the guy, I doubt he's worthy of HOF induction. He's never really been a dominant superstar. In 20 years or so, when people rattle off the names of the legends of our era, it'll take a long time before his name gets mentioned. That's not a mark of a Hall of Famer.

Which is part of the problem with being clean in the steroid era, we're forced to evaluate players differently than before. He may have been a dominant superstar if others had not used.

 

[Zymco]

Solid player, never even close to being the best player at his position nor one of the most dominant players of his era. No stat that gets him in either in my opinion. Just a nice player, in my mind we have this discussion too much about too many undeserving players. Voters need to continue to make it extremely difficult to get it and continue to make it the hardest sport to receive hall of fame honors to keep the integrity of the HOF.

 

[KandKCards]

Stats look decent, but I have a hard time saying a guy who has NEVER been a top 10 player in the league deserves to be in the Hall.

 

[Mighty Bombjack]

He would have to play MUCH longer and remain consistent, which will be hard. 500 HRs ain't what it used to be, and I don't think he has a shot at 3000 hits. The only thing he has ever led the league in is GDP, and aside from a couple of years finishing 2nd in the league in HRs, he hasn't even finished in the top 5 in any offensive category. Never been seriously considered for MVP. A very good player but not in the elite. I don't think he makes it.

 

[jeff152380]

Too Early to say.. just depends how long it takes to hit 500 hrs. or how far past 500 hrs....

 

[gogosox40]

Never been seriously considered for MVP. A very good player but not in the elite. I don't think he makes it.

Last year he was 5th in the MVP Voting.

He is an excellent player. He will end up in the White Sox hall of fame and will have his number retired but that will be it.
One of the most underrated players in the game.

 

[DeliciousBacon]

Which is part of the problem with being clean in the steroid era, we're forced to evaluate players differently than before. He may have been a dominant superstar if others had not used.

That's depressingly true. On the other hand, stack Konerko up against Jim Thome, another clean PED-era slugger who is a legit all-time great. Or Pujols, who I'm pretty certain is clean. Ichiro too. I just can't make an HOF argument for Konerko when comparing him to the non-juicers of his era.[flash=][/flash]

 

[sportscardtheory]

Konerko is one of the players who is harmed by playing during the steroid era. If he played during the '50s to mid-'80s, he would probably end up being a HOFer. And no, I'm not saying that there were no PEDs during those times, just saying that they were not "steroid eras". I don't know. Maybe the Hall voters will look at a guy like Konerko and give him props for never being linked to PEDs. He reminds me of a slightly less productive Carlos Delgado, and with 500 HRs, I think Delgado would have made the HOF. Maybe Paul has a chance if he can play a bunch more years and get a couple milestones.

 

[uniquebaseballcards]

Which is part of the problem with being clean in the steroid era, we're forced to evaluate players differently than before. He may have been a dominant superstar if others had not used.

That's depressingly true. On the other hand, stack Konerko up against Jim Thome, another clean PED-era slugger who is a legit all-time great. Or Pujols, who I'm pretty certain is clean. Ichiro too. I just can't make an HOF argument for Konerko when comparing him to the non-juicers of his era.[flash=][/flash]

One would only need to compare him to other non-juicing players at his position though, his chances are probably better than you might think. Who does that leave? the aforementioned players, Delgado and Thomas...who am I leaving out here?

Interesting to note that his final projected stats given here will be better than Bagwell's, and he got over 40% of the vote even with some steroid talk.

 

[That's Crucial]

LOL No he never gets in and does not even deserve to be on the ballot

 

[Leaf]

I've always called him "The AL hitting machine". But after seeing him mash some more this season, I got to wonder if Paul Konerko is going to end up in Cooperstown...

He's 35, but IF the DH sticks around, he could easily play 5 more years. And if you look at his numbers, he'd probably reach some HOF-type numbers and plateaus.

So far: .281, 1930 Hits, 378 HRs, 1202 RBIs, .357 OBP, .500 SLG, .856 OPS. 2005 ALCS MVP

and 9 SBs. :lol:

It looks like 500 HRs, 2500 hits and 1500 RBIs are definitely possible, if not probable. I'd have to think those levels would put him in Cooperstown. Also, I've never heard his name in the steroid or PED whispers.

Any thoughts?

Dear Jose,
No Way.
BG