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Jaypers

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Topps' stated print run of the AFLAC Gold Refractors from 2004 BDP was 50.

And we all know what happened after that.
 

F-Topps

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I've heard a couple of times that Topps made 3,000 cases, down from the 5,000 made last year.
I pulled 1 Heyward Aflac after opening about 10 cases and sold a case that someone pulled a Heyward from. 2 out of 11 cases from my batch held a Heyward Aflac Auto.
They are still going for $200.

nborton said:
Wouldn't a more accurate projection of the print run (for those that don't believe Topps) be by how many cases were made? Say they are falling 1.5 per case, then take the odds for superfractors or reds and find out how many cases were made. Then you would know for sure the aflacs.
 

nborton

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F-Topps said:
I've heard a couple of times that Topps made 3,000 cases, down from the 5,000 made last year.
I pulled 1 Heyward Aflac after opening about 10 cases and sold a case that someone pulled a Heyward from. 2 out of 11 cases from my batch held a Heyward Aflac Auto.
They are still going for $200.

nborton said:
Wouldn't a more accurate projection of the print run (for those that don't believe Topps) be by how many cases were made? Say they are falling 1.5 per case, then take the odds for superfractors or reds and find out how many cases were made. Then you would know for sure the aflacs.

I'm coming up based on the odds with 3400ish cases.

Autograph Chrome Prospect Superfractor 1:55,736

Divided by the number of packs in a case = 288

1 every 193.5 cases X the number of prospect autos (18) = 3483 cases

Doing it by red refractor autos gives a similar number.

So if there are 20 different cards in the set, and they are coming out of cases at an average of 1.5 a case. Then, it would be....

3483 X 1.5 = 5224.5 then divided by 20 for the number of different guys....

5224.5/20 = 261 Aflac autos

So in reality it's right at the 250 mark. Just like Topps said.
 

F-Topps

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Any idea how much Retail they normaly produce or if they also cut production on those this year? I would guess there is an a LOT of retail produced, maybe equal to the hobby cases produced.

nborton said:
F-Topps said:
I've heard a couple of times that Topps made 3,000 cases, down from the 5,000 made last year.
I pulled 1 Heyward Aflac after opening about 10 cases and sold a case that someone pulled a Heyward from. 2 out of 11 cases from my batch held a Heyward Aflac Auto.
They are still going for $200.

nborton said:
Wouldn't a more accurate projection of the print run (for those that don't believe Topps) be by how many cases were made? Say they are falling 1.5 per case, then take the odds for superfractors or reds and find out how many cases were made. Then you would know for sure the aflacs.

I'm coming up based on the odds with 3400ish cases.

Autograph Chrome Prospect Superfractor 1:55,736

Divided by the number of packs in a case = 288

1 every 193.5 cases X the number of prospect autos (18) = 3483 cases

Doing it by red refractor autos gives a similar number.

So if there are 20 different cards in the set, and they are coming out of cases at an average of 1.5 a case. Then, it would be....

3483 X 1.5 = 5224.5 then divided by 20 for the number of different guys....

5224.5/20 = 261 Aflac autos

So in reality it's right at the 250 mark. Just like Topps said.
 

nborton

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F-Topps said:
Any idea how much Retail they normaly produce or if they also cut production on those this year? I would guess there is an a LOT of retail produced, maybe equal to the hobby cases produced.

nborton said:
[quote="F-Topps":1jrgu7ge]I've heard a couple of times that Topps made 3,000 cases, down from the 5,000 made last year.
I pulled 1 Heyward Aflac after opening about 10 cases and sold a case that someone pulled a Heyward from. 2 out of 11 cases from my batch held a Heyward Aflac Auto.
They are still going for $200.

nborton said:
Wouldn't a more accurate projection of the print run (for those that don't believe Topps) be by how many cases were made? Say they are falling 1.5 per case, then take the odds for superfractors or reds and find out how many cases were made. Then you would know for sure the aflacs.

I'm coming up based on the odds with 3400ish cases.

Autograph Chrome Prospect Superfractor 1:55,736

Divided by the number of packs in a case = 288

1 every 193.5 cases X the number of prospect autos (18) = 3483 cases

Doing it by red refractor autos gives a similar number.

So if there are 20 different cards in the set, and they are coming out of cases at an average of 1.5 a case. Then, it would be....

3483 X 1.5 = 5224.5 then divided by 20 for the number of different guys....

5224.5/20 = 261 Aflac autos

So in reality it's right at the 250 mark. Just like Topps said.
[/quote:1jrgu7ge]


I don't have the retail odds to know. Best would be to use the jersey odds to find production numbers since they don't exist in hobby. That's the reason I used the reds and supers since they don't exist in retail.
 

Mudcatsfan

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I've posted this info several times.

You should read your old Becketts :)

Issue 259 October 2006 with Ryan Howard on the cover page 14

"250 were set aside for autographs, 250 were given to fans at the game, and 100 were given to players".
 

Jaypers

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Retail specs:


(8 packs/box; $19.99 SRP)

Group A SOTF Auto=1:73 Murphy, Snider, Drabek, Shafer, Salmon

Group B SOTF Auto=1:73 MacLane, Sosa, Kontos, D'Armaud, Poveda, Galvis, Petrick, Whittleman, Cardenas, Wimberly

Jersey Relic Variation=1:29

Bowman Blue-Bordered Base Parallel 1:42

Bowman Chrome Parallel
Refractor No Odds given.
XFractor 1:85
Blue 1:174
Gold 1:350
Orange 1:685
Red 1:3,320

Autograph prospect 1:385
Auto Refractor 1:1,375
Auto XFractor 1:2,800
Auto Blue Refractor 1:3,984
Auto Gold 1:10,000
Auto Orange 1:19,920
 

cgilmo

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Mudcatsfan said:
I've posted this info several times.

You should read your old Becketts :)

Issue 259 October 2006 with Ryan Howard on the cover page 14

"250 were set aside for autographs, 250 were given to fans at the game, and 100 were given to players".


finally, someone with the actual quote
 

masonphillip

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cgilmo said:
Mudcatsfan said:
I've posted this info several times.

You should read your old Becketts :)

Issue 259 October 2006 with Ryan Howard on the cover page 14

"250 were set aside for autographs, 250 were given to fans at the game, and 100 were given to players".


finally, someone with the actual quote


ahhhh, peace.
 

Mudcatsfan

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And if anyone wants more re-inforcement...

Issue 271 October 2007 Pujols on the cover (drawn by Dick Perez) page 13.

"This year we once again printed approximately 600 total Aflac sets, " Luraschi said. "Like last year we set aside 250 sets for autographs, 100 sets were provided to the players and the remaining were distributed to fans who attended the event."
 

nborton

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Mudcatsfan said:
And if anyone wants more re-inforcement...

Issue 271 October 2007 Pujols on the cover (drawn by Dick Perez) page 13.

"This year we once again printed approximately 600 total Aflac sets, " Luraschi said. "Like last year we set aside 250 sets for autographs, 100 sets were provided to the players and the remaining were distributed to fans who attended the event."

I was going to show them that quote too, but they don't believe Topps. :|

So hopefully the math will do. Or maybe there are more than 1 superfractor of each guy. :lol:
 

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