Manning now equals Favre

[cowboysrule48]

If Manning's career stays on course, in my mind he will be the best ever when he retires. Regardless if he gets back to this game or not.... Besides Aikman of course!

Manning will not be the best of all time. Montana is above him due to being 4-0 in the Superbowl and Brady will be above him, Brady I think gets 1 or 2 more rings. Like I said before Manning is Favre or a Richmans Marino. Manning got his ring based on a great performance by Addai in the superbowl and Rex Grossman playing terrible. I think the Bears win that game with Kyle Orton in the game.

No one wins a Super Bowl with only a great QB and no supporting cast. Manning losing today doesn't make him an less of a quarterback.

 

[KandKCards]

If Manning's career stays on course, in my mind he will be the best ever when he retires. Regardless if he gets back to this game or not.... Besides Aikman of course!

Manning will not be the best of all time. Montana is above him due to being 4-0 in the Superbowl and Brady will be above him, Brady I think gets 1 or 2 more rings. Like I said before Manning is Favre or a Richmans Marino. Manning got his ring based on a great performance by Addai in the superbowl and Rex Grossman playing terrible. I think the Bears win that game with Kyle Orton in the game.

Curious, then why didn't Addai get SB MVP?

That's a great question. Answer: political.
Rhodes- 21 carries, 113 yards, TD
Addai- 19 carries, 77 yards, 10 catches, 66 yards
Manning- 25/38, 238 yards, 1 TD 1 INT
Just because he won MVP doesn't mean he deserved it. Did Tracy McGrady deserve to make the NBA all star game? No way.
Snyper- Brady's 3 rings and 14-3 playoff record would disagree with your 4 regular season MVPs and 9-9 playoff record...

 

[Viking4Alpha]

If Manning's career stays on course, in my mind he will be the best ever when he retires. Regardless if he gets back to this game or not.... Besides Aikman of course!

Manning will not be the best of all time. Montana is above him due to being 4-0 in the Superbowl and Brady will be above him, Brady I think gets 1 or 2 more rings. Like I said before Manning is Favre or a Richmans Marino. Manning got his ring based on a great performance by Addai in the superbowl and Rex Grossman playing terrible. I think the Bears win that game with Kyle Orton in the game.

Curious, then why didn't Addai get SB MVP?

That's a great question. Answer: political.
Rhodes- 21 carries, 113 yards, TD
Addai- 19 carries, 77 yards, 10 catches, 66 yards
Manning- 25/38, 238 yards, 1 TD 1 INT
Just because he won MVP doesn't mean he deserved it. Did Tracy McGrady deserve to make the NBA all star game? No way.
Snyper- Brady's 3 rings and 14-3 playoff record would disagree with your 4 regular season MVPs and 9-9 playoff record...

We get it guy. You're a Tom Brady nuthugger. That statline does nothing but support the fact that Peyton got what he deserved. If you honestly think that Addai's showing trumped Peyton's then well.. your bias is already well known.

Am I a Peyton fan? You bet. The difference between us is that I don't go posting in every Tom Brady failure thread when given the opportunity like you do for the Peyton threads.

A parting shot for you however- Tom Brady* will be forever linked as a cheat. Can the same be said about Peyton? Nope. Your boy's reputation is as tarnished as they come.

 

[tenclubber]

You have to be realistic.

Manning is the best QB in the league right now and has been for quite some time. Brees is a close second.

The way Manning approaches the game is FAR above any other QB. He sees things that others can't. He just "gets it".

Manning will bring the Colts back to the SB again...possibly next year. This was just the Saints year. I am really happy for Drew, but think it will be difficult for him to get back to the SB to win another one. I hope I am wrong though...

 

[Card Magnet]

I do hate to rain on the parade, but I think 13 guys from the Saints are free agents now. i wonder how this will work out. I'm not sure who all that is offhand, but it could impact their chance to repeat/defend.

 

[cowboysrule48]

I do hate to rain on the parade, but I think 13 guys from the Saints are free agents now. i wonder how this will work out. I'm not sure who all that is offhand, but it could impact their chance to repeat/defend.

Uncapped year also, going to make it very tough to retain many of them.

 

[tenclubber]

True. Plus, Brees is re-negotiating his contract this off season. He is gonna get CASH MONEY!!! This will tie up some money when it comes to the salary cap.

I do hate to rain on the parade, but I think 13 guys from the Saints are free agents now. i wonder how this will work out. I'm not sure who all that is offhand, but it could impact their chance to repeat/defend.

 

[pigskincardboard]

You have to be realistic.

Manning is the best QB in the league right now and has been for quite some time. Brees is a close second.

The way Manning approaches the game is FAR above any other QB. He sees things that others can't. He just "gets it".

Manning will bring the Colts back to the SB again...possibly next year. This was just the Saints year. I am really happy for Drew, but think it will be difficult for him to get back to the SB to win another one. I hope I am wrong though...

Depending on what happens this off-season, it'll be the Patriots time again very soon.

The Patriots pretty gave away this year with the trade of Seymour, but it was a solid long-term investment.

Brees really impressed me with his feel for the game today. Some of the throws easily could've been picks, but his movement in the pocket was spectacular.

 

[kdailey4315]

All today proves is that once again Montana is the best ever period.

The next 2 years are going to be crazy in the NFL. With 2010 being uncapped and 2011 looking like an owner lockout who knows what will happen.

I'm happy for the Saints, the city of NO, and for Brees. If anyone thinks Peyton will not get back to a Super Bowl is ignorant. If history is correct it looks like next year is the Pats Year. Pats, Steelers, Colts and the pattern repeats itself.

 

[KandKCards]

If Manning's career stays on course, in my mind he will be the best ever when he retires. Regardless if he gets back to this game or not.... Besides Aikman of course!

Manning will not be the best of all time. Montana is above him due to being 4-0 in the Superbowl and Brady will be above him, Brady I think gets 1 or 2 more rings. Like I said before Manning is Favre or a Richmans Marino. Manning got his ring based on a great performance by Addai in the superbowl and Rex Grossman playing terrible. I think the Bears win that game with Kyle Orton in the game.

Curious, then why didn't Addai get SB MVP?

That's a great question. Answer: political.
Rhodes- 21 carries, 113 yards, TD
Addai- 19 carries, 77 yards, 10 catches, 66 yards
Manning- 25/38, 238 yards, 1 TD 1 INT
Just because he won MVP doesn't mean he deserved it. Did Tracy McGrady deserve to make the NBA all star game? No way.
Snyper- Brady's 3 rings and 14-3 playoff record would disagree with your 4 regular season MVPs and 9-9 playoff record...

We get it guy. You're a Tom Brady nuthugger. That statline does nothing but support the fact that Peyton got what he deserved. If you honestly think that Addai's showing trumped Peyton's then well.. your bias is already well known.

Am I a Peyton fan? You bet. The difference between us is that I don't go posting in every Tom Brady failure thread when given the opportunity like you do for the Peyton threads.

A parting shot for you however- Tom Brady* will be forever linked as a cheat. Can the same be said about Peyton? Nope. Your boy's reputation is as tarnished as they come.

I really have no idea how Manning's super bowl stats are more impressive than the two RBs. 190 total rushing yards helps a QB out quite a bit.
And I think you might be reaching with the cheater thing. I'm sure Belichick will be considered that way, but I don't know of anyone who says "Brady only won because they were filming signals." Probably because no one is dumb enough to actually say that.

 

[Viking4Alpha]

[quote="cowboysrule48":ll0q8iah]If Manning's career stays on course, in my mind he will be the best ever when he retires. Regardless if he gets back to this game or not.... Besides Aikman of course!

Manning will not be the best of all time. Montana is above him due to being 4-0 in the Superbowl and Brady will be above him, Brady I think gets 1 or 2 more rings. Like I said before Manning is Favre or a Richmans Marino. Manning got his ring based on a great performance by Addai in the superbowl and Rex Grossman playing terrible. I think the Bears win that game with Kyle Orton in the game.

Curious, then why didn't Addai get SB MVP?

That's a great question. Answer: political.
Rhodes- 21 carries, 113 yards, TD
Addai- 19 carries, 77 yards, 10 catches, 66 yards
Manning- 25/38, 238 yards, 1 TD 1 INT
Just because he won MVP doesn't mean he deserved it. Did Tracy McGrady deserve to make the NBA all star game? No way.
Snyper- Brady's 3 rings and 14-3 playoff record would disagree with your 4 regular season MVPs and 9-9 playoff record...

We get it guy. You're a Tom Brady nuthugger. That statline does nothing but support the fact that Peyton got what he deserved. If you honestly think that Addai's showing trumped Peyton's then well.. your bias is already well known.

Am I a Peyton fan? You bet. The difference between us is that I don't go posting in every Tom Brady failure thread when given the opportunity like you do for the Peyton threads.

A parting shot for you however- Tom Brady* will be forever linked as a cheat. Can the same be said about Peyton? Nope. Your boy's reputation is as tarnished as they come.

I really have no idea how Manning's super bowl stats are more impressive than the two RBs. 190 total rushing yards helps a QB out quite a bit.
And I think you might be reaching with the cheater thing. I'm sure Belichick will be considered that way, but I don't know of anyone who says "Brady only won because they were filming signals." Probably because no one is dumb enough to actually say that.[/quote:ll0q8iah]

Really? I'm pretty sure it's simple math. Peyton had a better day than either single RB did. Not sure how that's so tough to comprehend. I'm pretty sure MVP stands for Most Valuable Player, NOT Most Valuable Combo.

I'm not reaching with anything. You can't isolate filmgate to just the coaching staff. That's ridiculous. That would be like a rifleman blaming his weapon for killing someone instead of he himself. It's a team effort.

 

[CollectorsCorner]

what he said

 

[tribefan2427]

there are two different peyton mannings the regular season manning and the playoff manning

 

[Brad]

[quote="cowboysrule48":1yv8tm6t]If Manning's career stays on course, in my mind he will be the best ever when he retires. Regardless if he gets back to this game or not.... Besides Aikman of course!

Manning will not be the best of all time. Montana is above him due to being 4-0 in the Superbowl and Brady will be above him, Brady I think gets 1 or 2 more rings. Like I said before Manning is Favre or a Richmans Marino. Manning got his ring based on a great performance by Addai in the superbowl and Rex Grossman playing terrible. I think the Bears win that game with Kyle Orton in the game.

Curious, then why didn't Addai get SB MVP?

That's a great question. Answer: political.
Rhodes- 21 carries, 113 yards, TD
Addai- 19 carries, 77 yards, 10 catches, 66 yards
Manning- 25/38, 238 yards, 1 TD 1 INT
Just because he won MVP doesn't mean he deserved it. Did Tracy McGrady deserve to make the NBA all star game? No way.
Snyper- Brady's 3 rings and 14-3 playoff record would disagree with your 4 regular season MVPs and 9-9 playoff record...

We get it guy. You're a Tom Brady nuthugger. That statline does nothing but support the fact that Peyton got what he deserved. If you honestly think that Addai's showing trumped Peyton's then well.. your bias is already well known.

Am I a Peyton fan? You bet. The difference between us is that I don't go posting in every Tom Brady failure thread when given the opportunity like you do for the Peyton threads.

A parting shot for you however- Tom Brady* will be forever linked as a cheat. Can the same be said about Peyton? Nope. Your boy's reputation is as tarnished as they come.

I really have no idea how Manning's super bowl stats are more impressive than the two RBs. 190 total rushing yards helps a QB out quite a bit.
And I think you might be reaching with the cheater thing. I'm sure Belichick will be considered that way, but I don't know of anyone who says "Brady only won because they were filming signals." Probably because no one is dumb enough to actually say that.[/quote:1yv8tm6t]

And Manning's presence didn't help them at all?

 

[RITM]

Threads like this only attest to the greatness of Manning. With any loss someone is always ready to jump in and remind everyone that he is human. I do not think that any player in any sport has been under the scrutiny that Peyton has faced throughout his career. Tough night last night but even with the INT I think most of us would say we could live with his completion % and yardage. Saints were a better team and should be allowed to be viewed as Super Bowl Champions.

As far as the Brady stuff goes I get very tired of the argument. Tom Brady may be a good QB but he will forever be linked to a cheater head coach. Going a step further, how did Matt Cassel look when he stepped in to run the NE offense? He threw for more yards than 3 of Tom's seasons, had a higher rating than 4 of Tom's seasons and had fewer picks than ALL of Tom's seasons running the NE offense. Anyone think that happens with a backup in Indy?

 

[lumm0x]

Manning, Favre and Brady all are in the top 10 QB's ever to play the game. That is some elite company and it's a pointless arguement. Kinda like the world's richest debating who has more money. Is the guy with only 300 billion supposed to feel inferior?

 

[bodiaz]

[quote="mwashuc06":2cf8bi8j][quote="cowboysrule48":2cf8bi8j]If Manning's career stays on course, in my mind he will be the best ever when he retires. Regardless if he gets back to this game or not.... Besides Aikman of course!

Manning will not be the best of all time. Montana is above him due to being 4-0 in the Superbowl and Brady will be above him, Brady I think gets 1 or 2 more rings. Like I said before Manning is Favre or a Richmans Marino. Manning got his ring based on a great performance by Addai in the superbowl and Rex Grossman playing terrible. I think the Bears win that game with Kyle Orton in the game.

Curious, then why didn't Addai get SB MVP?

That's a great question. Answer: political.
Rhodes- 21 carries, 113 yards, TD
Addai- 19 carries, 77 yards, 10 catches, 66 yards
Manning- 25/38, 238 yards, 1 TD 1 INT
Just because he won MVP doesn't mean he deserved it. Did Tracy McGrady deserve to make the NBA all star game? No way.
Snyper- Brady's 3 rings and 14-3 playoff record would disagree with your 4 regular season MVPs and 9-9 playoff record...

We get it guy. You're a Tom Brady nuthugger. That statline does nothing but support the fact that Peyton got what he deserved. If you honestly think that Addai's showing trumped Peyton's then well.. your bias is already well known.

Am I a Peyton fan? You bet. The difference between us is that I don't go posting in every Tom Brady failure thread when given the opportunity like you do for the Peyton threads.

A parting shot for you however- Tom Brady* will be forever linked as a cheat. Can the same be said about Peyton? Nope. Your boy's reputation is as tarnished as they come.

I really have no idea how Manning's super bowl stats are more impressive than the two RBs. 190 total rushing yards helps a QB out quite a bit.
And I think you might be reaching with the cheater thing. I'm sure Belichick will be considered that way, but I don't know of anyone who says "Brady only won because they were filming signals." Probably because no one is dumb enough to actually say that.[/quote:2cf8bi8j]

Really? I'm pretty sure it's simple math. Peyton had a better day than either single RB did. Not sure how that's so tough to comprehend. I'm pretty sure MVP stands for Most Valuable Player, NOT Most Valuable Combo.

I'm not reaching with anything. You can't isolate filmgate to just the coaching staff. That's ridiculous. That would be like a rifleman blaming his weapon for killing someone instead of he himself. It's a team effort.[/quote:2cf8bi8j]


Never read anything so clueless! The Oline were the most valuable of that Super bowl! I don't think Manning was touched that whole game, and 2 rbs went over 100 yds! Manning had a very average day. IMO, Brady>Manning>Favre. Everyone is entitled to their own, and I do think Brady and Manning are top 5 alltime, Favre barely top 10.

 

[Viking4Alpha]

Never read anything so clueless!

That's probably because the majority of the garbage you fail to see emanates from your very own finger tips.

 

[KandKCards]

[quote="mwashuc06":1eifk90d][quote="cowboysrule48":1eifk90d]If Manning's career stays on course, in my mind he will be the best ever when he retires. Regardless if he gets back to this game or not.... Besides Aikman of course!

Manning will not be the best of all time. Montana is above him due to being 4-0 in the Superbowl and Brady will be above him, Brady I think gets 1 or 2 more rings. Like I said before Manning is Favre or a Richmans Marino. Manning got his ring based on a great performance by Addai in the superbowl and Rex Grossman playing terrible. I think the Bears win that game with Kyle Orton in the game.

Curious, then why didn't Addai get SB MVP?

That's a great question. Answer: political.
Rhodes- 21 carries, 113 yards, TD
Addai- 19 carries, 77 yards, 10 catches, 66 yards
Manning- 25/38, 238 yards, 1 TD 1 INT
Just because he won MVP doesn't mean he deserved it. Did Tracy McGrady deserve to make the NBA all star game? No way.
Snyper- Brady's 3 rings and 14-3 playoff record would disagree with your 4 regular season MVPs and 9-9 playoff record...

We get it guy. You're a Tom Brady nuthugger. That statline does nothing but support the fact that Peyton got what he deserved. If you honestly think that Addai's showing trumped Peyton's then well.. your bias is already well known.

Am I a Peyton fan? You bet. The difference between us is that I don't go posting in every Tom Brady failure thread when given the opportunity like you do for the Peyton threads.

A parting shot for you however- Tom Brady* will be forever linked as a cheat. Can the same be said about Peyton? Nope. Your boy's reputation is as tarnished as they come.

I really have no idea how Manning's super bowl stats are more impressive than the two RBs. 190 total rushing yards helps a QB out quite a bit.
And I think you might be reaching with the cheater thing. I'm sure Belichick will be considered that way, but I don't know of anyone who says "Brady only won because they were filming signals." Probably because no one is dumb enough to actually say that.[/quote:1eifk90d]

Really? I'm pretty sure it's simple math. Peyton had a better day than either single RB did. Not sure how that's so tough to comprehend. I'm pretty sure MVP stands for Most Valuable Player, NOT Most Valuable Combo.

I'm not reaching with anything. You can't isolate filmgate to just the coaching staff. That's ridiculous. That would be like a rifleman blaming his weapon for killing someone instead of he himself. It's a team effort.[/quote:1eifk90d]
I didn't say the combo should have won it, I was pointing out that both of them probably deserved it more. 250 yards, 1 TD (which was to a wide open Wayne in which Manning didn't have to do much) and 1 INT is just not that impressive. I don't think anyone would argue that. And put the Brady/Manning stuff aside, your logic is flawed. You can't use the fact that a guy got an award as evidence that he deserved it. That makes no sense. Do you really think McNabb, Garrard and Vince Young deserved to be in the Pro bowl?

 

[Viking4Alpha]

[quote="Snyper":1wb0vi10][quote="mwashuc06":1wb0vi10][quote="cowboysrule48":1wb0vi10]If Manning's career stays on course, in my mind he will be the best ever when he retires. Regardless if he gets back to this game or not.... Besides Aikman of course!

Manning will not be the best of all time. Montana is above him due to being 4-0 in the Superbowl and Brady will be above him, Brady I think gets 1 or 2 more rings. Like I said before Manning is Favre or a Richmans Marino. Manning got his ring based on a great performance by Addai in the superbowl and Rex Grossman playing terrible. I think the Bears win that game with Kyle Orton in the game.

Curious, then why didn't Addai get SB MVP?

That's a great question. Answer: political.
Rhodes- 21 carries, 113 yards, TD
Addai- 19 carries, 77 yards, 10 catches, 66 yards
Manning- 25/38, 238 yards, 1 TD 1 INT
Just because he won MVP doesn't mean he deserved it. Did Tracy McGrady deserve to make the NBA all star game? No way.
Snyper- Brady's 3 rings and 14-3 playoff record would disagree with your 4 regular season MVPs and 9-9 playoff record...

We get it guy. You're a Tom Brady nuthugger. That statline does nothing but support the fact that Peyton got what he deserved. If you honestly think that Addai's showing trumped Peyton's then well.. your bias is already well known.

Am I a Peyton fan? You bet. The difference between us is that I don't go posting in every Tom Brady failure thread when given the opportunity like you do for the Peyton threads.

A parting shot for you however- Tom Brady* will be forever linked as a cheat. Can the same be said about Peyton? Nope. Your boy's reputation is as tarnished as they come.

I really have no idea how Manning's super bowl stats are more impressive than the two RBs. 190 total rushing yards helps a QB out quite a bit.
And I think you might be reaching with the cheater thing. I'm sure Belichick will be considered that way, but I don't know of anyone who says "Brady only won because they were filming signals." Probably because no one is dumb enough to actually say that.[/quote:1wb0vi10]

Really? I'm pretty sure it's simple math. Peyton had a better day than either single RB did. Not sure how that's so tough to comprehend. I'm pretty sure MVP stands for Most Valuable Player, NOT Most Valuable Combo.

I'm not reaching with anything. You can't isolate filmgate to just the coaching staff. That's ridiculous. That would be like a rifleman blaming his weapon for killing someone instead of he himself. It's a team effort.[/quote:1wb0vi10]
I didn't say the combo should have won it, I was pointing out that both of them probably deserved it more. 250 yards, 1 TD (which was to a wide open Wayne in which Manning didn't have to do much) and 1 INT is just not that impressive. I don't think anyone would argue that. And put the Brady/Manning stuff aside, your logic is flawed. You can't use the fact that a guy got an award as evidence that he deserved it. That makes no sense. Do you really think McNabb, Garrard and Vince Young deserved to be in the Pro bowl?[/quote:1wb0vi10]

Please. My logic is "flawed" only because I don't agree with you, so spare me.

No one in the game is better than controlling the tempo than Peyton. THAT in and of itself was why he earned the SB MVP. Neither one of those RB's did more for that game than Peyton did.