Mark McGwire Collector's Thread

[nosterbor]

MARK MCGWIRE COLLECTOR

PSA 10 ALL-TIME FINEST #5

This drives a color blind person nutz!!

 

[7guns]

Life has me busy,but I am looking 3-5 plastic protectors for my Classic Doubles Lineups. I can't. seem to find them anywhere if anyone has any or knows were I can get them plmk Thanks all.

 

[onionring9]

Purple crusade for 125. Great deal

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[onionring9]

I wouldn't call this a steal but something to think hard about because the overlap of Griffey collectors and only 10 exist. I want to say I got mine for 550.

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[onionring9]

Might just be me, but I had a heck of a time finding the big bang bucks card in this auction. 192958522676

 

[GucciMac]

Always chipping away at the seemingly never ending collection...Didn’t get to hit up the National this year. Pretty bummed about that. Oh well, there’s always next year.




Finally got the blue ink auto!




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[OaklandA's_915]

Hello! My name is Eric. This isn't exactly the way I wanted to introduce myself, but I thought I'd let you know to stay away from the 1998 Bowman Golden Anniversary Refractor that's currently on eBay. It's a back doored replacement card that had a fake serial number applied within the past few years. Anyhow, hopefully we can get this thread going again. I'd love to talk about Big Mac cards with all of you

 

[nosterbor]

Are you talking about the BGS 9? And how would you know unless you did the deed yourself.

 

[OaklandA's_915]

Are you talking about the BGS 9? And how would you know unless you did the deed yourself.

No not at all. I was interested in buying it, but I asked the guy who did a write up about the fake serial numbers on these. He's going to post on here later about why the number is wrong. I was just trying to help...

 

[tidel144]

Hello! My name is Eric. This isn't exactly the way I wanted to introduce myself, but I thought I'd let you know to stay away from the 1998 Bowman Golden Anniversary Refractor that's currently on eBay. It's a back doored replacement card that had a fake serial number applied within the past few years. Anyhow, hopefully we can get this thread going again. I'd love to talk about Big Mac cards with all of you

Here’s a summarized version of a write-up I did on these - only focused on the serial numbering to help with distinguishing between real and counterfeit stamps:

Are you talking about the BGS 9? And how would you know unless you did the deed yourself.

nosterbor - There are counterfeit versions of the 1998 Bowman Chrome Golden Anniversary Refractors in baseball

These cards were originally unnumbered proofs which were obtained by unscrupulous owners, counterfeit stamped, and sold on the secondary market. Unnumbered proofs are common for ‘98 and ‘99 Topps/Bowman baseball products (Paper, Chrome, Finest) due to former Topps employees selling off uncut sheets/proofs from the Topps Vault in the late-2000s.

Picture 1: ”A” (Aaron Boone) is the archetype and has the same stamping font as the archetype I referenced in my ‘98 Centurion Refractors post. “B” (Tatis, Sr.) and “C” (Cruz Jr.) feature stamping fonts that are visibly different from font used by Topps. Authentic stamps feature a slightly thicker font (see the "/" and the "5"). Further, the "5" is narrow in authentic stamps - the loop is condensed almost like a straight-edge is compressing it inwards; the counterfeit stamp has a rounder loop. Lastly, the downward vertical line at the top of the "5" on authentic versions are close to 90 degrees; counterfeit stamps feature this line an angle closer to 80 degrees.

Picture 2: See the side-by-side of a counterfeit-stamped Griffey with an archetype stamp for each number, 1-5 . Notice also that the stamping font on the Griffey is almost identical to the Cruz Jr. and Tatis. Back in August 2017, there was a Griffey that was called out as counterfeit by myself and some other collectors for the same reasons as the Cruz, Jr. and Tatis, Sr. It was also stamped 5/5 and listed by same consignor as the Cruz Jr. and Tatis, Sr. (taken down).

I was able to establish direct contact with the owner of the Griffey and he claimed he didn't know, apologized for listing a counterfeit, and took the eBay listing down. However, the same Griffey 5/5 surfaced at the National last year and it seems as though the seller found a sucker to pay $7,500 for it (more details you can read in the actual listing, posted below). Essentially the owner who dropped $7,500 on a counterfeit tried to recoup his losses and thankfully was upfront about everything in the description. He only made $900 back:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/35257284905...app-cvip-panel

Further, the Cruz Jr. and Tatis, Sr. with the same 5/5 counterfeit font resurfaced after disappearing from eBay unsold a year later and sold to unsuspecting buyers.

I don't think it is coincidence that these 3 counterfeits are all stamped 5/5 - maybe the original counterfeiter realized that the number "5" would be easiest to fake.

Share this accordingly!

 

[jam022316]

Hello! My name is Eric. This isn't exactly the way I wanted to introduce myself, but I thought I'd let you know to stay away from the 1998 Bowman Golden Anniversary Refractor that's currently on eBay. It's a back doored replacement card that had a fake serial number applied within the past few years. Anyhow, hopefully we can get this thread going again. I'd love to talk about Big Mac cards with all of you

Welcome Eric! Nice to see a fellow Mcgwire collector. Though I’d never be able to afford it I appreciate the heads up.


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[OaklandA's_915]

Welcome Eric! Nice to see a fellow Mcgwire collector. Though I’d never be able to afford it I appreciate the heads up.


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Hey I really appreciate it! Wish I had discovered this forum a long time ago! It would be nice to talk with fellow Mac collectors

 

[onionring9]

Gold chirography - was a tough auto to find

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[7guns]

Got this the other day on ebay input on if it is the reprint or not would be appreciated.

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[onionring9]

3k for the whole set of these is a steal

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[7guns]

Wish I had the cash for that Joe

 

[jam022316]

Got this the other day on ebay input on if it is the reprint or not would be appreciated.

283642581209

Wow you aren’t kidding that is awesome



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[7guns]

Got it cheap just got to figure our which version it is. Been working on my registry tired of being #2.

 

[jam022316]

Got it cheap just got to figure our which version it is. Been working on my registry tired of being #2.

The horse has been beat to death but it kills me you have to ask if it’s authentic, like isn’t that the point of grading?? *facepalm* these companies sometimes


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[2014BESTSERVICE]

Got it cheap just got to figure our which version it is. Been working on my registry tired of being #2.

Not sure I even recognize your username from 13-15 years ago when I was over 3000 points on the BGS leaderboard of Big Mac and # 1 by a lot of points but I still own a lot of Pop 1 or low pop Mac items and will be glad to help you out since I'm no longer participating in his stuff either there or at PSA. I gave up actively
collecting many of my sub players when my sets grew too large and I had to focus a wee bit better on what I really loved as opposed to just what I "liked". Mac lost out and I sold a lot but still own a hefty amount of BGS & PSA slabs I'm slowly letting go of over time.

These four are all available email me at my [email protected] address.

Pinnacle Cert is a Pop 2 mine has no weakness other versions got a 9 surface
The UD3 is a Pop 1
The League Leaders is a Pop 1
The All-Star refractors is a Pop 3 ( one has no subgrades this and the other do)

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@GucciMac your aware thats my McGwire your bidding on right ?? Let me know if you want me to work something out direct I can take it off the feebay