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Jaypers said:
Anyone else notice that the Mock Draft has the M's taking yet another reliever @ # 27? :lol:

Brett Keith will get a kick out of that one.

Yes, that caught my eye. Good thing I don't trust this mock draft as far as I can throw it, and since it's a web page, I can't throw it very far...or at all.
 

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Stassi may be ranked higher than Maddox, but for card purposes, I would stay far far far away. Stassi has very little power, and his current going rate is unsustainable, probably due to his BA ranking.

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It's great to see Gibson launched into the top 10. I firmly believe he is the second best college arm, and has the most prejection out of any college arm.


Who do you think has the MOST POWER, of the hitters??
 

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WATER_DOG007 said:
Who do you think has the MOST POWER, of the hitters??

My vote goes to Poythress.
 

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bballcardkid said:
Stassi may be ranked higher than Maddox, but for card purposes, I would stay far far far away. Stassi has very little power, and his current going rate is unsustainable, probably due to his BA ranking.

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It's great to see Gibson launched into the top 10. I firmly believe he is the second best college arm, and has the most prejection out of any college arm.

So, because he has little power now, means he can't develop it later on? Prospects normally take time to develop their power and we are talking about a HS kid. Add that he is a catcher and the development of power is slowed even more.

I am not a Stassi fan per say, but to label him as overrated and unsustainable is a bit drastic. There are clear reasons he is ranked so far above Maddox and others.
 

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I'll be very curious to see if Kentrail Davis signs this time. I believe he's a draft-eligible sophomore.
 

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ru4scuba said:
Has Tate made any hints if he's going to sign or play football?

Gilmore thinks the UNC commitment is a leverage tactic. Honestly, no high football recruit wants to play Football at UNC, nor would I think the baseball coach would want his top recruit playing Football.

If the kid is taken top 10 overall, I doubt he wouldn't sign. His stock may never be that high again, unless he turned into the best overall college player in 3 years.
 

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Has Tate made any hints if he's going to sign or play football?


John(ChapelHill, NC): Jim, do you think Donavan Tate steps foot on campus or enters the draft? Appreciate your input.

Jim Callis: (2:32 PM ET ) Just too early to tell. He's a two-sport athlete and advised by the Scott Boras Corp., so he won't be as inclined to sign as most top prospects. If I have to guess, I'd say he will go high enough in the draft that he will sign.
 

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NECpilgrims8 said:
bballcardkid said:
Stassi may be ranked higher than Maddox, but for card purposes, I would stay far far far away. Stassi has very little power, and his current going rate is unsustainable, probably due to his BA ranking.

Edit:

It's great to see Gibson launched into the top 10. I firmly believe he is the second best college arm, and has the most prejection out of any college arm.

So, because he has little power now, means he can't develop it later on? Prospects normally take time to develop their power and we are talking about a HS kid. Add that he is a catcher and the development of power is slowed even more.

I am not a Stassi fan per say, but to label him as overrated and unsustainable is a bit drastic. There are clear reasons he is ranked so far above Maddox and others.

According to the MiLB report, he has very little power "potential." And considering that his USA on card autos are going for about 15 times an Austin Maddox, yes I would call his current levels unsustainable.

Edit: Again, I am speaking strictly of baseball cards.
 

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bballcardkid said:
NECpilgrims8 said:
bballcardkid said:
Stassi may be ranked higher than Maddox, but for card purposes, I would stay far far far away. Stassi has very little power, and his current going rate is unsustainable, probably due to his BA ranking.

Edit:

It's great to see Gibson launched into the top 10. I firmly believe he is the second best college arm, and has the most prejection out of any college arm.

So, because he has little power now, means he can't develop it later on? Prospects normally take time to develop their power and we are talking about a HS kid. Add that he is a catcher and the development of power is slowed even more.

I am not a Stassi fan per say, but to label him as overrated and unsustainable is a bit drastic. There are clear reasons he is ranked so far above Maddox and others.

According to the MiLB report, he has very little power "potential." And considering that his USA on card autos are going for about 15 times an Austin Maddox, yes I would call his current levels unsustainable.

So, you take that as gold, to say he is overrated?

At the catcher position, there are SO many other things to take into account besides his power potential. I wouldn't get so caught up in the "sexy" statistics when it come to draft prospects.

Maddox = Big raw power, Very strong arm, poor lateral movement (bases and behind plate), Hands OK

Stassi = "Can go deep, but he's not a big power guy", Good footwork, moves very well behind plate, OK arm strength & could improve

Maddox will likely move off Catcher, while Stassi could be a catcher & leader for a future team. THAT is why he is ranked higher.
 

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In regards to UNC football and Tate...let's not forget that UNC football is a bit different than it has been. All indications are that Butch Davis can, and will make this a winning program as last year evidenced.

So, in actuality...Tate would have the opportunity to be on a top tier college baseball team, while also playing for bowl eligible football teams.

Do I think he comes here to UNC? No, but I'd like it.
 

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Freak-a-Leake movin up the boards, and I wouldn't mind Minor as a Rangers fan...Amazing how much it changed from a few months ago, hopefully Purke doesn't go that low though...
 

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i like givens going to the nyy since i have a handful of his cards but i highly doubt the angels will go with pitching in the 1st rd. our system is in dire need of bats, especially at the lower levels
 

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WATER_DOG007 said:
bballcardkid said:
Stassi may be ranked higher than Maddox, but for card purposes, I would stay far far far away. Stassi has very little power, and his current going rate is unsustainable, probably due to his BA ranking.

Edit:

It's great to see Gibson launched into the top 10. I firmly believe he is the second best college arm, and has the most prejection out of any college arm.


Who do you think has the MOST POWER, of the hitters??

Of all the hitters? It is a college bat. Poythress, Mendonca (who I believe is hurt) or Kent Mathes. Of the high schoolers, there aren't many outstanding bats with tremendous power potential.
 

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NECpilgrims8 said:
bballcardkid said:
NECpilgrims8 said:
bballcardkid said:
Stassi may be ranked higher than Maddox, but for card purposes, I would stay far far far away. Stassi has very little power, and his current going rate is unsustainable, probably due to his BA ranking.

Edit:

It's great to see Gibson launched into the top 10. I firmly believe he is the second best college arm, and has the most prejection out of any college arm.

So, because he has little power now, means he can't develop it later on? Prospects normally take time to develop their power and we are talking about a HS kid. Add that he is a catcher and the development of power is slowed even more.

I am not a Stassi fan per say, but to label him as overrated and unsustainable is a bit drastic. There are clear reasons he is ranked so far above Maddox and others.

According to the MiLB report, he has very little power "potential." And considering that his USA on card autos are going for about 15 times an Austin Maddox, yes I would call his current levels unsustainable.

So, you take that as gold, to say he is overrated?

At the catcher position, there are SO many other things to take into account besides his power potential. I wouldn't get so caught up in the "sexy" statistics when it come to draft prospects.

Maddox = Big raw power, Very strong arm, poor lateral movement (bases and behind plate), Hands OK

Stassi = "Can go deep, but he's not a big power guy", Good footwork, moves very well behind plate, OK arm strength & could improve

Maddox will likely move off Catcher, while Stassi could be a catcher & leader for a future team. THAT is why he is ranked higher.

Where in my first quote did I say that Stassi is overrated? Please refer to the bolded part of my statement. In no way did I dispute the rankings of the catching prospects whatsoever.
 

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Dustin Ackley is easily the best college bat in the draft. I saw him play and he can really hit!
 

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bballcardkid said:
NECpilgrims8 said:
bballcardkid said:
NECpilgrims8 said:
bballcardkid said:
Stassi may be ranked higher than Maddox, but for card purposes, I would stay far far far away. Stassi has very little power, and his current going rate is unsustainable, probably due to his BA ranking.

Edit:

It's great to see Gibson launched into the top 10. I firmly believe he is the second best college arm, and has the most prejection out of any college arm.

So, because he has little power now, means he can't develop it later on? Prospects normally take time to develop their power and we are talking about a HS kid. Add that he is a catcher and the development of power is slowed even more.

I am not a Stassi fan per say, but to label him as overrated and unsustainable is a bit drastic. There are clear reasons he is ranked so far above Maddox and others.

According to the MiLB report, he has very little power "potential." And considering that his USA on card autos are going for about 15 times an Austin Maddox, yes I would call his current levels unsustainable.

So, you take that as gold, to say he is overrated?

At the catcher position, there are SO many other things to take into account besides his power potential. I wouldn't get so caught up in the "sexy" statistics when it come to draft prospects.

Maddox = Big raw power, Very strong arm, poor lateral movement (bases and behind plate), Hands OK

Stassi = "Can go deep, but he's not a big power guy", Good footwork, moves very well behind plate, OK arm strength & could improve

Maddox will likely move off Catcher, while Stassi could be a catcher & leader for a future team. THAT is why he is ranked higher.

Where in my first quote did I say that Stassi is overrated? Please refer to the bolded part of my statement. In no way did I dispute the rankings of the catching prospects whatsoever.

You didn't say the word "overrated", but I took you saying that his prices are unsustainable over a player like Maddox to portray that.

Personally, I feel that maddox has two tools (power & arm), which would bode very well for the RF. Besides that, I don't see much else about Maddox that would make teams flock to draft him.

Stassi, even though I have no thoughts of investing in him, has multiple tools to be a feature backstop to a future club in need. The powe might not be there now, but his frame bodes well to add strength and power later on.
 

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