More UD Carnage, the loss of USA Baseball

[ThoseBackPages]

Vintage will never go out of style

 

[ronfromfresno]

No competition, return to the '70's for collectors, no need to improve for Topps. Remember the competition spurred the inserts of the '90's, the Bowman line and all of the Game Used and Auto'ed cards we covet today.

 

[ChasHawk]

No competition, return to the '70's for collectors, no need to improve for Topps. Remember the competition spurred the inserts of the '90's, the Bowman line and all of the Game Used and Auto'ed cards we covet today.

You'll never convince some people.

 

[ronfromfresno]

No competition, return to the '70's for collectors, no need to improve for Topps. Remember the competition spurred the inserts of the '90's, the Bowman line and all of the Game Used and Auto'ed cards we covet today.

You'll never convince some people.

I agree, but it's the basis of economics, eventually we all will complian and hopefully the competition will return. With a monopoly, dealers will have less variety to sell, fewer individuals will seek out the un-innovative cards, and shops will possibly close. This site was created in a sense due to the same pricinple, we all craved variety compared to Beckett's near monopoly of baseball card thought. We jumped ship because we could, now when it comes to modern collecting, there are no new baseball ships to jump to.

 

[Jaypers]

It's not a monopoly as long as Panini is still in the game.

 

[ChasHawk]

No competition, return to the '70's for collectors, no need to improve for Topps. Remember the competition spurred the inserts of the '90's, the Bowman line and all of the Game Used and Auto'ed cards we covet today.

You'll never convince some people.

I agree, but it's the basis of economics, eventually we all will complian and hopefully the competition will return. With a monopoly, dealers will have less variety to sell, fewer individuals will seek out the un-innovative cards, and shops will possibly close. This site was created in a sense due to the same pricinple, we all craved variety compared to Beckett's near monopoly of baseball card thought. We jumped ship because we could, now when it comes to modern collecting, there are no new baseball ships to jump to.

My biggest hope is that UD is allowed to continue in the unlicensed realm, and because of that, DLPanini jumps back in as well.

It's not a monopoly as long as Panini is still in the game.

Panini doesn't have a baseball license JP.

 

[ronfromfresno]

It's not a monopoly as long as Panini is still in the game.

For now, but they produce a limited interest for the common collector, just prospects.

 

[bmc398]

It's not a monopoly as long as Panini is still in the game.

And their 1 2009 product?

 

[Jaypers]

No competition, return to the '70's for collectors, no need to improve for Topps. Remember the competition spurred the inserts of the '90's, the Bowman line and all of the Game Used and Auto'ed cards we covet today.

You'll never convince some people.

I agree, but it's the basis of economics, eventually we all will complian and hopefully the competition will return. With a monopoly, dealers will have less variety to sell, fewer individuals will seek out the un-innovative cards, and shops will possibly close. This site was created in a sense due to the same pricinple, we all craved variety compared to Beckett's near monopoly of baseball card thought. We jumped ship because we could, now when it comes to modern collecting, there are no new baseball ships to jump to.

My biggest hope is that UD is allowed to continue in the unlicensed realm, and because of that, DLPanini jumps back in as well.

It's not a monopoly as long as Panini is still in the game.

Panini doesn't have a baseball license JP.

They own the collegiate baseball license.

 

[Jaypers]

It's not a monopoly as long as Panini is still in the game.

And their 1 2009 product?

With this USA news, I'm willing to bet they're going to step it up this year.

 

[All In Cards]

No competition, return to the '70's for collectors, no need to improve for Topps. Remember the competition spurred the inserts of the '90's, the Bowman line and all of the Game Used and Auto'ed cards we covet today.

You'll never convince some people.

I agree, but it's the basis of economics, eventually we all will complian and hopefully the competition will return. With a monopoly, dealers will have less variety to sell, fewer individuals will seek out the un-innovative cards, and shops will possibly close. This site was created in a sense due to the same pricinple, we all craved variety compared to Beckett's near monopoly of baseball card thought. We jumped ship because we could, now when it comes to modern collecting, there are no new baseball ships to jump to.

My biggest hope is that UD is allowed to continue in the unlicensed realm, and because of that, DLPanini jumps back in as well.

It's not a monopoly as long as Panini is still in the game.

Panini doesn't have a baseball license JP.

They own the collegiate baseball license.

Wrong, UD has it now, dlpp will not have it for the coming year.

 

[uniquebaseballcards]

Bowman was around in the 1940s. Topps lost its monopoly in 1981...inserts and parallels didn't start until a *decade* later...prospecting several years after that...meaningful levels of GU and autos another few years. There's no reason to think any of this was solely the result of competition, its not like anybody wouldn't have thought to have athlete-signed cards for competition. Nothing new has happened for the past decade anyway.

Why would any company want to loose customers due to lack of innovation? Besides, how much does anyone need baseball cards to further change in order to be happy and fulfilled.

No competition, return to the '70's for collectors, no need to improve for Topps. Remember the competition spurred the inserts of the '90's, the Bowman line and all of the Game Used and Auto'ed cards we covet today.

 

[ChasHawk]

Bowman was around in the 1940s. Topps lost its monopoly in 1981...inserts and parallels didn't start until a *decade* later...prospecting several years after that...meaningful levels of GU and autos another few years. There's no reason to think any of this was solely the result of competition, its not like anybody wouldn't have thought to have athlete-signed cards for competition. Nothing new has happened for the past decade anyway.

Why would any company want to loose customers due to lack of innovation? Besides, how much does anyone need baseball cards to further change in order to be happy and fulfilled.

No competition, return to the '70's for collectors, no need to improve for Topps. Remember the competition spurred the inserts of the '90's, the Bowman line and all of the Game Used and Auto'ed cards we covet today.

Not neccessarily talking about change. Just talking about Topps getting lazy because they have the exclusive locked up.

Box of Topps Sterling for $250...anyone...anyone?

 

[Jaypers]

Wrong, UD has it now, dlpp will not have it for the coming year.

How is the collegiate logo present on the backs of the 09 EEE cards? I'll admit I'm not in the loop in these matters.

 

[goldenegg1]

Upper Deck is going to be just fine. They still have Football and Hockey (exclusively) are are still putting out awesome products in those sports. Belive it or not, there is much more out there than baseball! Topps will screw this up somehow, I can guarantee that!
It is unfortunate that the company with the worst customer service has the exclusive rights to baseball starting this year.

 

[sdsportsfan1214]

Haha great news! I hope upper deck rots

 

[All In Cards]

Wrong, UD has it now, dlpp will not have it for the coming year.

How is the collegiate logo present on the backs of the 09 EEE cards? I'll admit I'm not in the loop in these matters.

09 yes, UD has the collegiate license for 2010 and on

 

[Jaypers]

[quote="All In Cards":1fcp1to2]Wrong, UD has it now, dlpp will not have it for the coming year.

How is the collegiate logo present on the backs of the 09 EEE cards? I'll admit I'm not in the loop in these matters.

09 yes, UD has the collegiate license for 2010 and on[/quote:1fcp1to2]

Guess that means no 2010 EEE, then. Ah well.

 

[beefycheddar]

[quote="All In Cards":29kjrg17]Wrong, UD has it now, dlpp will not have it for the coming year.

How is the collegiate logo present on the backs of the 09 EEE cards? I'll admit I'm not in the loop in these matters.

09 yes, UD has the collegiate license for 2010 and on

Guess that means no 2010 EEE, then. Ah well.[/quote:29kjrg17]

Well it all depends how UD's lawsuit goes.

 

[All In Cards]

[quote="All In Cards":yrk649jr]Wrong, UD has it now, dlpp will not have it for the coming year.

How is the collegiate logo present on the backs of the 09 EEE cards? I'll admit I'm not in the loop in these matters.

09 yes, UD has the collegiate license for 2010 and on

Guess that means no 2010 EEE, then. Ah well.[/quote:yrk649jr]

yup, that is what I have been saying for a few months now, unless they airbrush everything but the players face.