My day has FINALLY arrived.

[Bornagaincollector]

Henderson should really be getting killed for what he did, but since people love him, and hate Bisping it is alright with everyone. But people hate Brock so it is the worst thing in the world. If by some miracle chance Brock`s next fight were to be against Fedor, and he were able to finish Fedor then I wonder what all the detractors would say? I know that the haters would still find a way to discredit his victory over the greatest MMA fighter of all time. I am already on record as saying Fedor would beat Brock though. But honestly, at this point I would LOVE to see Brock beat Fedor just to see how the fans react all over the internet.

If Brock beats Fedor,i would say he is clearly the best Heavyweight in the world.I think Fedor,Barnett and maybe Carwin could handle him...Lashley & Rodgers are
decent opponents for him...His game is getting better....He has shown he has a chin & his overall power,quickness is a lot for someone to deal with.

It would be interesting in how Fedor would deal with Brocks power & quickness,since i don't think Fedor has faced someone stronger or quicker then Brock...I do believe Fedor would win by early submission...

 

[HPC]

Henderson should really be getting killed for what he did, but since people love him, and hate Bisping it is alright with everyone. But people hate Brock so it is the worst thing in the world. If by some miracle chance Brock`s next fight were to be against Fedor, and he were able to finish Fedor then I wonder what all the detractors would say? I know that the haters would still find a way to discredit his victory over the greatest MMA fighter of all time. I am already on record as saying Fedor would beat Brock though. But honestly, at this point I would LOVE to see Brock beat Fedor just to see how the fans react all over the internet.

It would be interesting in how Fedor would deal with Brocks power & quickness,since i don't think Fedor has faced someone stronger or quicker then Brock...I do believe Fedor would win by early submission...

Fedor would probably handle him similar to the way he handled Silvia, who is also a much bigger opponent.

He would stand with him and stike quick and fast, then, if it goes to the ground, work a sub, probably a choke.

Fedor is the best submissions heavyweight fighter out there.

Part of his game would have to be based on his quickness, as the weight difference would at least be 70 pounds, since Fedor is really closer to a light-heavyweight (he weighs around 230-235 when he fights, and brock weighs close to 290 on fight day). Now, I believe Brock is better (right now) than Silvia, so he might not fall as easy, but, no one has tested brock's chin by just throwing fast paced punches.

...just my .02

 

[Jastermereel]

Herring, an aging Couture, & Mir are mid-level fighters at best.

 

[Super Mario]

That`s just the typical excuses from Lesnar haters who refuse to give the guy credit.............HPC, I was saying during the fight Saturday that Mir should just bull rush Brock with a flurry of punches, because he has never experienced that before.

 

[HPC]

That`s just the typical excuses from Lesnar haters who refuse to give the guy credit.............HPC, I was saying during the fight Saturday that Mir should just bull rush Brock with a flurry of punches, because he has never experienced that before.

Yeah Sam, I agree.

People will more than likely never give him credit.

I think your suggestion would have been better! You could clearly see Brock dodging the punches he was throwing, which leads me to believe he was wanting the takedown, or afraid of getting hit!

 

[JzWand]

I firmly believe Hendo should at least be fined for what he did!

He could have killed an unconscious Bisping with that elbow.

That is the kind of thing that makes the media criticize MMA and what he did detracts from the sport!

No way. You fight until the ref stops you!
Quentin Jackson landed 3 extra shots on Wanderlei WHILE the ref was trying to pull him off and he wasnt fined so I dont think Hendo should be. I love Wanderlei and I had no problem with what Quentin did as I know theres a certain amount of adrenaline going during a fight.

I admit there was a certain amount of happiness that came over me when Henderson laid Bisping out.
But the fact remains its a fight. Its not a fighters job to dictate when the fight is over. If they dont throw that extra shot, good great. If they do, well dude shouldnt have gotten KO'd and put himself in that position in the first place.
These guys are fighters and you go for the kill.

Hendo has let up on more respectful opponants in the past like Renzo Gracie.

Its the refs job to poilce and control the fighters and there actions.

 

[JzWand]

Herring, an aging Couture, & Mir are mid-level fighters at best.

Ummmmm, NO!
Couture and Mir are in every recognizable sites Top 5 HW rankings, so they are merely more than mid level.
His current 3 fight winning streak at HW is as impressive as it gets. Theres nothign he can do about not fighting Fedor or Josh!

MMA weekly rankings:

#1 Heavyweight Fighter in the World: Fedor Emelianenko

2. Josh Barnett

3. Frank Mir

4. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira

5. Randy Couture

6. Mirko Cro Cop Filipovic

7. Brock Lesnar

8. Brett Rogers

9. Cain Velasquez

10. Andrei Arlovski

Brock probably will be #3 behind Fedor and Barnett in the next rankings and realistically Cro Cop shouldnt even be on there!

 

[Jastermereel]

Herring, an aging Couture, & Mir are mid-level fighters at best.

Ummmmm, NO!
Couture and Mir are in every recognizable sites Top 5 HW rankings, so they are merely more than mid level.
His current 3 fight winning streak at HW is as impressive as it gets. Theres nothign he can do about not fighting Fedor or Josh!

MMA weekly rankings:

#1 Heavyweight Fighter in the World: Fedor Emelianenko

2. Josh Barnett

3. Frank Mir

4. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira

5. Randy Couture

6. Mirko Cro Cop Filipovic

7. Brock Lesnar

8. Brett Rogers

9. Cain Velasquez

10. Andrei Arlovski

Brock probably will be #3 behind Fedor and Barnett in the next rankings and realistically Cro Cop shouldnt even be on there!

Ummmmmm, yes.

There's Fedor, then Barnett, then everybody else.

 

[allstars]

Is there a youtube link to the incident in question? I'd like to view it!

 

[KOBEARODLT]

here you go

 

[HPC]

I firmly believe Hendo should at least be fined for what he did!

He could have killed an unconscious Bisping with that elbow.

That is the kind of thing that makes the media criticize MMA and what he did detracts from the sport!

No way. You fight until the ref stops you!
Quentin Jackson landed 3 extra shots on Wanderlei WHILE the ref was trying to pull him off and he wasnt fined so I dont think Hendo should be. I love Wanderlei and I had no problem with what Quentin did as I know theres a certain amount of adrenaline going during a fight.

I admit there was a certain amount of happiness that came over me when Henderson laid Bisping out.
But the fact remains its a fight. Its not a fighters job to dictate when the fight is over. If they dont throw that extra shot, good great. If they do, well dude shouldnt have gotten KO'd and put himself in that position in the first place.
These guys are fighters and you go for the kill.

Hendo has let up on more respectful opponants in the past like Renzo Gracie.

Its the refs job to poilce and control the fighters and there actions.

I will agree with you on what you said.

The reason I think he should be fined, and not suspended, is for the reasons you mentioned.

You cant suspend a guy for fighting when the ref hasnt stopped the fight yet...thats what fighters are trained to do, go until it's over.

However, he admitted he knew bisping was out and did it anyway.

I think that is fine-worthy

 

[JzWand]

Ummmmmm, yes.

There's Fedor, then Barnett, then everybody else.

So Brock takes out 2 top 5 guys in a 8 month span and thats mid level. No way!
And I guarantee you Brock would give both a run for there money. Not saying he would win, but Lesnar is going to be a chalenge for anyoen out there because of his wrestling and size.

By your logic, Thiago Alves, Jon Fitch, and Josh Koscheck are midelevel fighters at 170 since GSP dominated them all and thats simply not the case.
And at 185, I guess Marquardt (9 time KOP), Franklin, and Henderson are mid level as well?
Not everyone who is ranked below the champion/#2 is mid level.

 

[JzWand]

I will agree with you on what you said.

The reason I think he should be fined, and not suspended, is for the reasons you mentioned.

You cant suspend a guy for fighting when the ref hasnt stopped the fight yet...thats what fighters are trained to do, go until it's over.

However, he admitted he knew bisping was out and did it anyway.

I think that is fine-worthy

If you cant suspend the guy since he did nothing wrong, how do you fine him when the circumstances havent changed?

The UFC isnt a stance on morality. You fight till the fight is over, thats it. Once the ref jumped in Dan stopped. Bisping would have done the same thing and 99% of teh fighters continue until the ref determines enough is enough.
Its the way the sport goes!

 

[KOBEARODLT]

Ummmmmm, yes.

There's Fedor, then Barnett, then everybody else.

So Brock takes out 2 top 5 guys in a 8 month span and thats mid level. No way!
And I guarantee you Brock would give both a run for there money. Not saying he would win, but Lesnar is going to be a chalenge for anyoen out there because of his wrestling and size.

By your logic, Thiago Alves, Jon Fitch, and Josh Koscheck are midelevel fighters at 170 since GSP dominated them all and thats simply not the case.
And at 185, I guess Marquardt (9 time KOP), Franklin, and Henderson are mid level as well?
Not everyone who is ranked below the champion/#2 is mid level.

i actually think lesnar would definately beat barnett and possibly beat fedo

 

[yankeefan812]

As much as I'd like to see Lesnar fight Fedor/Barnett, it isn't going to happen anytime soon. His next fight will most likely be the winner of Carwin/Velasquez at UFC 104 in October. IMO Lesnar will beat either of those two, however, I think Carwin will give him more trouble because he is around the same size as Lesnar. After that fight I would like to Lesnar fight Barnett before Fedor, because if he can't beat Barnett there's no way he's going to beat Fedor. And, if Lesnar does happen to beat Barnett, that will only build up more hype for his fight against Fedor which should be very interesting to watch.

 

[MojoDan]

I am a fan of both Hendo/Bisping so it was a win-win for me. I am curious though...has anyone heard from Bisping since the fight? I didnt see a post fight presser with him answering questions...saw all of the victors though...

 

[JzWand]

I am a fan of both Hendo/Bisping so it was a win-win for me. I am curious though...has anyone heard from Bisping since the fight? I didnt see a post fight presser with him answering questions...saw all of the victors though...

No I dont think hes made any comments or appearances since the fight.
I imagine he probably has a concusion at the very least and maybe a broken jaw and/or nose depending on where the last shot from Hendo landed.
I dont think he will be fighting for another 8 months to a year though.

Its bad enough to lose by KO (believe me I know), but the fact that it will be plastered all around the MMA world and be highlighted for years to come will be a tough thing for him to come back from. Some guys never fully recover.

If it humbles him, then I wouldnt mind seeing him come back. If not, then I hope they stick him in with Anderson and let Silva tee off on him!

 

[Jastermereel]

Ummmmmm, yes.

There's Fedor, then Barnett, then everybody else.

So Brock takes out 2 top 5 guys in a 8 month span and thats mid level. No way!
And I guarantee you Brock would give both a run for there money. Not saying he would win, but Lesnar is going to be a chalenge for anyoen out there because of his wrestling and size.

By your logic, Thiago Alves, Jon Fitch, and Josh Koscheck are midelevel fighters at 170 since GSP dominated them all and thats simply not the case.
And at 185, I guess Marquardt (9 time KOP), Franklin, and Henderson are mid level as well?
Not everyone who is ranked below the champion/#2 is mid level.

That's not what I said at all. The HW division is weak. There is quite a distance between the top two guys and everyone else. Someone has to be #3-10 it doesn't mean they are top flight fighters.

Brock needs to prove himself a little more before he gets to act like he does. He's had 5 fights afterall.

And those rankings don't mean anything anyway.

 

[JzWand]

That's not what I said at all. The HW division is weak. There is quite a distance between the top two guys and everyone else. Someone has to be #3-10 it doesn't mean they are top flight fighters.

Brock needs to prove himself a little more before he gets to act like he does. He's had 5 fights afterall.

And those rankings don't mean anything anyway.

Well doesnt it seem that at 170 there is quite a distance between GSP and everyone else as well? Couldnt the argument be made that 170 is weak too since no one is going to realistically beat GSP for a while?
I dont think Brock needs to prove himself at all. Hes the best wrestler in the UFC and I think he has a 50/50 shot at beat Fedor. I would favor him vs Barnett at the moment. Whether we see those fights or not IDK.

Sure because of his size, he is able to control guys quite easily.
But a lot of that is talent.
Tim Sylvia was a huge guy as well and he couldnt do **** to stop getting cold cocked with someones right hand.

Brock right now is running through some pretty good guys and although I dont like his personality, respect is giving to him as a fighter.

Do you honestly believe that Fedor or Barnett would completely dominate him? I dont think so.

 

[MojoDan]

That's not what I said at all. The HW division is weak. There is quite a distance between the top two guys and everyone else. Someone has to be #3-10 it doesn't mean they are top flight fighters.

Brock needs to prove himself a little more before he gets to act like he does. He's had 5 fights afterall.

And those rankings don't mean anything anyway.

Well doesnt it seem that at 170 there is quite a distance between GSP and everyone else as well? Couldnt the argument be made that 170 is weak too since no one is going to realistically beat GSP for a while?
I dont think Brock needs to prove himself at all. Hes the best wrestler in the UFC and I think he has a 50/50 shot at beat Fedor. I would favor him vs Barnett at the moment. Whether we see those fights or not IDK.

Sure because of his size, he is able to control guys quite easily.
But a lot of that is talent.
Tim Sylvia was a huge guy as well and he couldnt do shat to stop getting cold cocked with someones right hand.

Brock right now is running through some pretty good guys and although I dont like his personality, respect is giving to him as a fighter.

Do you honestly believe that Fedor or Barnett would completely dominate him? I dont think so.

I cant see anyone walking over him. His strength is unreal. Couple that with his wrestling and his willingness to learn and you have a monster in the division for the future. You dont become UFC champion this fast just by being lucky. Face facts, the guy has the size/skills to compete at the highest level.