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NL Cy Young Watch - Cliff Lee 9/26
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Huffamaniac
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Re: NL Cy Young Watch - Kershaw and Halladay 9/4
Worse comment ever. Check his stats. Terrible F
Worse comment ever. Check his stats. Terrible F
schmidtfan20 said:
Re: NL Cy Young Watch - Cliff Lee 9/5
Ok, I'm going to distance myself from a particular phillies poster by actually giving a valid reason for why I think what I think.
Cliff Lee, if he continues to pitch anywhere near how he's pitching right now will win the Cy Young. If the numbers are anywhere near the same, the pitcher on the better team seems to win it.
Not a homer since I've really enjoyed watching Kershaw turn into the pitcher most people thought he would be.
Also...
I would have used this as a reason........when i was 12.
Ok, I'm going to distance myself from a particular phillies poster by actually giving a valid reason for why I think what I think.
Cliff Lee, if he continues to pitch anywhere near how he's pitching right now will win the Cy Young. If the numbers are anywhere near the same, the pitcher on the better team seems to win it.
Not a homer since I've really enjoyed watching Kershaw turn into the pitcher most people thought he would be.
Also...
I would have used this as a reason........when i was 12.
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Re: NL Cy Young Watch - Ian Kennedy 9/8
Ian Kennedy throws a gem last night and gets his 19th win:
7 2/3 IP, 7 H, 1 ER, O BB, 11 K
Here are the updated totals
Kershaw
17 Wins, 2.43 ERA, 222 K, 1.02 WHIP
Lee
16 Wins, 2.47 ERA, 204 K, 1.03 WHIP
Halladay
16 Wins, 2.48 ERA, 195 K, 1.05 WHIP
Kennedy
19 wins, 2.90 ERA, 178 K, 1.11 WHIP
Cole Hamels
14 wins, 2.60 ERA, 171 K, 0.95 WHIP
Ian Kennedy throws a gem last night and gets his 19th win:
7 2/3 IP, 7 H, 1 ER, O BB, 11 K
Here are the updated totals
Kershaw
17 Wins, 2.43 ERA, 222 K, 1.02 WHIP
Lee
16 Wins, 2.47 ERA, 204 K, 1.03 WHIP
Halladay
16 Wins, 2.48 ERA, 195 K, 1.05 WHIP
Kennedy
19 wins, 2.90 ERA, 178 K, 1.11 WHIP
Cole Hamels
14 wins, 2.60 ERA, 171 K, 0.95 WHIP
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Re: NL Cy Young Watch - Halladay and Kershaw 9/9
Halladay looks to be back in form tonight. Just K's Braun and Fielder back to back to end the 6th. Strikeouts number 200 and 201 with only 28 walks.
6 IP, 3 H, 0 ER, 2 BB, 6 K
Kershaw should be starting soon.
Halladay looks to be back in form tonight. Just K's Braun and Fielder back to back to end the 6th. Strikeouts number 200 and 201 with only 28 walks.
6 IP, 3 H, 0 ER, 2 BB, 6 K
Kershaw should be starting soon.
schmidtfan20
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Re: NL Cy Young Watch - Halladay and Kershaw 9/9
Kennedy is having a great season, you don't just have 19 wins fall in your lap, but Lee and Halladay are beating the best
two teams in the NL and it isn't even close, Kennedy are Kershaw are beating lesser foes. The winner will be wearing
red this year.
Kevin
Kennedy is having a great season, you don't just have 19 wins fall in your lap, but Lee and Halladay are beating the best
two teams in the NL and it isn't even close, Kennedy are Kershaw are beating lesser foes. The winner will be wearing
red this year.
Kevin
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Re: NL Cy Young Watch - Halladay and Kershaw 9/9
It's going to be interesting. If the stats remain close like they currently are, pitching for a playoff team should help the Phillies pitchers, but maybe Halladay and Lee split some votes and Kershaw sneaks in.
It's going to be interesting. If the stats remain close like they currently are, pitching for a playoff team should help the Phillies pitchers, but maybe Halladay and Lee split some votes and Kershaw sneaks in.
Ryan The Orange
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Re: NL Cy Young Watch - Halladay and Kershaw 9/9
That's pretty cool. It looks like the formula relies on using past stats so it probably still includes a big reliance on wins. After Felix Hernandez/Bert Blyleven, the voters understand that Wins are not the most important pitching stat.
Ryan The Orange said:
That's pretty cool. It looks like the formula relies on using past stats so it probably still includes a big reliance on wins. After Felix Hernandez/Bert Blyleven, the voters understand that Wins are not the most important pitching stat.
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Re: NL Cy Young Watch - Halladay and Kershaw 9/9
The updated Cy Young Stats:
Kershaw
17 Wins, 2.43 ERA, 222 K, 1.02 WHIP
Lee
16 Wins, 2.47 ERA, 204 K, 1.03 WHIP
Halladay
17 Wins, 2.44 ERA, 204 K, 1.05 WHIP
Kennedy
19 wins, 2.90 ERA, 178 K, 1.11 WHIP
Cole Hamels
14 wins, 2.60 ERA, 171 K, 0.95 WHIP
The updated Cy Young Stats:
Kershaw
17 Wins, 2.43 ERA, 222 K, 1.02 WHIP
Lee
16 Wins, 2.47 ERA, 204 K, 1.03 WHIP
Halladay
17 Wins, 2.44 ERA, 204 K, 1.05 WHIP
Kennedy
19 wins, 2.90 ERA, 178 K, 1.11 WHIP
Cole Hamels
14 wins, 2.60 ERA, 171 K, 0.95 WHIP
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lisu
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Re: NL Cy Young Watch - Halladay and Kershaw 9/9
I'm watching. His stuff is filthy.
tpeichel said:
I'm watching. His stuff is filthy.
schmidtfan20
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Re: NL Cy Young Watch - Halladay and Kershaw 9/9
get the man some run support.
Kevin
get the man some run support.
Kevin
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Re: NL Cy Young Watch - Halladay and Kershaw 9/9
Amazes me that Kershaw doesn't throw his curveball that much and its his 2nd best pitch. Its been a nice dose of fastball and slider this season. Curve to slider ratio is around 4.7% curve < 24% slider
Amazes me that Kershaw doesn't throw his curveball that much and its his 2nd best pitch. Its been a nice dose of fastball and slider this season. Curve to slider ratio is around 4.7% curve < 24% slider
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Re: NL Cy Young Watch - Halladay and Kershaw 9/9
And Kershaw answers with his own haymaker. What a gem:
8 IP, 3 H, 0 ER, 1 BB, 9 K
Four guys throwing lights out right now. Too bad three of them are going to lose.
Updated Cy Young Stats:
Kershaw
18 Wins, 2.36 ERA, 231 K, 1.00 WHIP
Lee
16 Wins, 2.47 ERA, 204 K, 1.03 WHIP
Halladay
17 Wins, 2.44 ERA, 204 K, 1.05 WHIP
Kennedy
19 wins, 2.90 ERA, 178 K, 1.11 WHIP
Cole Hamels
14 wins, 2.60 ERA, 171 K, 0.95 WHIP
And Kershaw answers with his own haymaker. What a gem:
8 IP, 3 H, 0 ER, 1 BB, 9 K
Four guys throwing lights out right now. Too bad three of them are going to lose.
Updated Cy Young Stats:
Kershaw
18 Wins, 2.36 ERA, 231 K, 1.00 WHIP
Lee
16 Wins, 2.47 ERA, 204 K, 1.03 WHIP
Halladay
17 Wins, 2.44 ERA, 204 K, 1.05 WHIP
Kennedy
19 wins, 2.90 ERA, 178 K, 1.11 WHIP
Cole Hamels
14 wins, 2.60 ERA, 171 K, 0.95 WHIP
Re: NL Cy Young Watch - Halladay and Kershaw 9/9
I haven't see the hard data, but I've got to believe Kershaw and Kennedy (especially Kershaw) know they stand a good chance of having to win 3-2, 2-1, etc. Tonight's game is a prime example. Kershaw went into the hostile environment in SF and was on the hook for the loss until the bats finally woke up in the 8th & 9th. By contast, Halladay was up 3-0 before he even took the mound, and was up 5-0 before he gave up the run in the 7th.
Don't get me wrong, Lee and Halladay are tremendous pitchers, but mentally it has GOT to be easier to pitch your game knowing the lineup behind you is going to give you a pretty darn good chance to win.
Put most other offenses in the NL behind Lee and Halladay and they are still dominant pitchers. However, I believe their numbers go down because they don't have the formidable Philly lineup giving them the comfort of run support.schmidtfan20 said:
I haven't see the hard data, but I've got to believe Kershaw and Kennedy (especially Kershaw) know they stand a good chance of having to win 3-2, 2-1, etc. Tonight's game is a prime example. Kershaw went into the hostile environment in SF and was on the hook for the loss until the bats finally woke up in the 8th & 9th. By contast, Halladay was up 3-0 before he even took the mound, and was up 5-0 before he gave up the run in the 7th.
Don't get me wrong, Lee and Halladay are tremendous pitchers, but mentally it has GOT to be easier to pitch your game knowing the lineup behind you is going to give you a pretty darn good chance to win.
schmidtfan20
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Re: NL Cy Young Watch - Halladay and Kershaw 9/9
you are probably right, even though scoring runs hasn't always been a given for the phillies, these past two weeks
have been the exception. You still have to go out and win. Lee and Halladay have been beating the best teams in the league, no small feat. It would be interesting to see what each pitchers run support is. Can't take anything away from
Clayton tonight, beat Lincy and went 8 innings...plus my fantasy team approves.
Kevin
TNP777 said:
you are probably right, even though scoring runs hasn't always been a given for the phillies, these past two weeks
have been the exception. You still have to go out and win. Lee and Halladay have been beating the best teams in the league, no small feat. It would be interesting to see what each pitchers run support is. Can't take anything away from
Clayton tonight, beat Lincy and went 8 innings...plus my fantasy team approves.
Kevin
