George_Calfas
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Cobra29svt said:cubuffs13 said:Been looking for that Arod for some time, too bad I don't have the funds at the moment.
Oh come on man, he only wants $300 for it.![]()
Thats about right, I think it was acquired for $50ish
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Cobra29svt said:cubuffs13 said:Been looking for that Arod for some time, too bad I don't have the funds at the moment.
Oh come on man, he only wants $300 for it.![]()
George_Calfas said:Cobra29svt said:cubuffs13 said:Been looking for that Arod for some time, too bad I don't have the funds at the moment.
Oh come on man, he only wants $300 for it.![]()
Thats about right, I think it was acquired for $50ish
bmx807 said:my recent pick ups:
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Fandruw25 said:bmx807 said:my recent pick ups:
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Very nice, Any chance you could scan the back of the centurion ref? Here's one I have scanned, the other has a number "055/75" so I'm thinking one is probably fake.
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bmx807 said:my recent pick ups:
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BunchOBull said:I'd list as a set at BIN/BO.
I wouldn't grade the cards if the two examples are representative of the average condition of the set.
bmx807 said:Fandruw25 said:bmx807 said:my recent pick ups:
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Very nice, Any chance you could scan the back of the centurion ref? Here's one I have scanned, the other has a number "055/75" so I'm thinking one is probably fake.
I dont have a scan of the back right now but the numbering is the same as your scan. My understanding of these is the ones numbered 0XX/75 are the fake ones.
predatorkj said:So refresh my memory...how does one fake a Centurion refractor? Were these backdoored copies that were stamped after the fact by someone with a stamper or what? Because I'd have to say your run of the mill small time print shop doesn't have the material or paper stock to duplicate these at will. At least not at the price they'd fetch. Not to mention...you'd have to fence them out slowly enough so it didn't get noticed.
George_Calfas said:predatorkj said:So refresh my memory...how does one fake a Centurion refractor? Were these backdoored copies that were stamped after the fact by someone with a stamper or what? Because I'd have to say your run of the mill small time print shop doesn't have the material or paper stock to duplicate these at will. At least not at the price they'd fetch. Not to mention...you'd have to fence them out slowly enough so it didn't get noticed.
Backdoored after being stamped. I opened a pack with a 1999 McGwire Gold Die-Cut Refractor. The card was badly damaged, I returned the card and received the same serial number in return. However the size/font were different. This way they do a 1-1 swap and check to see if they card is ever returned again using the stamp as a reference.
i would say so. you can not fake a refractor.backdoor, indoor, outdoor, inhouse or OUTHOUSE numbering aside it is a legit card and i would buy them all day long!predatorkj said:George_Calfas said:predatorkj said:So refresh my memory...how does one fake a Centurion refractor? Were these backdoored copies that were stamped after the fact by someone with a stamper or what? Because I'd have to say your run of the mill small time print shop doesn't have the material or paper stock to duplicate these at will. At least not at the price they'd fetch. Not to mention...you'd have to fence them out slowly enough so it didn't get noticed.
Backdoored after being stamped. I opened a pack with a 1999 McGwire Gold Die-Cut Refractor. The card was badly damaged, I returned the card and received the same serial number in return. However the size/font were different. This way they do a 1-1 swap and check to see if they card is ever returned again using the stamp as a reference.
So the cards are real totally. They were created and stamped in house. I'd call that a legit version then no?
gwynn5453l4u said:Just got this in...it is #'d/100 1999 Gold Label Class 1 Red. It has the embossed numbering, but not the foil on the numbering.
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