Oh Super Sweet 90's Inserts.... #2

[Buynhisellnlow]

241 is one of many suggest 1993 refractor print runs, no hard numbers ever given.

Assuming that the Refractors for all 199 cards were, in fact, printed in equal quantities, then the production run was 241 copies.

Stated Case Run: 4000, 12-box cases
Insertion Ratio: 1:18 (one-per-box)

4000 * 12 / 199 = 241.21

Also, IIRC, the stated production run on the '96 Leaf Preferred Press Proofs (Golds) was 500 copies each.

I may be wrong, as it's been a while, but weren't there some that were all but confirmed to be SPs?

 

[carrsallstars]

Nice Walker! It is a class 2 Red label. You can tell by the secondary picture in the background where he is running the bases. The front photos stay the same but for Class 1 the background picture is fielding, class 2 is running the bases, and class 3 is batting. I believe they produced a 1/1 version of each class and each color gold/black/red, for a total of 9 1/1s for each player. I am positive they did it that way for the 99s, I'm pretty sure it's the same for the 98s.

Love this card even more

One question is this a Class three?

 

[AndruwHRJones]

Some recent pickups, finally found each at a price I could live with.

 

[schillingfan]

jarcar - Awesome Walkers. The Gold Label series was just gorgeous.

Andruw - Love the 24K Gold and Platinum Medallion. They're next to impossible to find for player collectors.

 

[George_Calfas]

241 is one of many suggest 1993 refractor print runs, no hard numbers ever given.

Assuming that the Refractors for all 199 cards were, in fact, printed in equal quantities, then the production run was 241 copies.

Stated Case Run: 4000, 12-box cases
Insertion Ratio: 1:18 (one-per-box)

4000 * 12 / 199 = 241.21

Also, IIRC, the stated production run on the '96 Leaf Preferred Press Proofs (Golds) was 500 copies each.

I may be wrong, as it's been a while, but weren't there some that were all but confirmed to be SPs?

No. Beckett refers to them as SP but the print company and Topps confirmed equal number produced of all cards. The perceived SP was a process of poor correlation and hording.

One of the cases I open contained 10 Alex Cole refractors, subsequently I bought as many Cole as I could (and other players).
Andre Dawson was paying big money for his own cards from Robert Nappe
Many collectors buying certain players, at one time I Knew the owners of most hoards. I guy in Florida has over 100 Pudge refractors.

 

[jarcar]

Thanks for your help guys. I didn't realize there is a 1/1 of each class and each color.

 

[nosterbor]

here is a cool insert error. PSA did not even catch it!

 

[Gwynn545]

here is a cool insert error. PSA did not even catch it!

I did not know JuanGone was a switch hitter!

 

[carrsallstars]

I thought Juan was switch hitting since his debut in 1990?...

 

[AK11]

A little Griffey love:

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Not super valuable by any means, but still tough enough to locate. Thanks.

 

[bustin_knuckles]

Also 1995 Select Artists Proofs with an assumed print run of 238.

It's actually twice that: 475.

Stated case run: 4950, 24-box, cases
Stated insertion ratio: 1:24 (one-per-box)
Set size: 250

4950 * 24 / 250 = 475.2

QED

How come Beckett says 238? Oh wait I know why it's Beckett. ::facepalm::

 

[Cobra29svt]

[quote="bustin_knuckles":2f9y24yv]Also 1995 Select Artists Proofs with an assumed print run of 238.

It's actually twice that: 475.

Stated case run: 4950, 24-box, cases
Stated insertion ratio: 1:24 (one-per-box)
Set size: 250

4950 * 24 / 250 = 475.2

QED

How come Beckett says 238? Oh wait I know why it's Beckett. ::facepalm::[/quote:2f9y24yv]

Maybe they were 12-box cases?

 

[stalegum]

[quote="bustin_knuckles":v2m6lfxz]Also 1995 Select Artists Proofs with an assumed print run of 238.

It's actually twice that: 475.

Stated case run: 4950, 24-box, cases
Stated insertion ratio: 1:24 (one-per-box)
Set size: 250

4950 * 24 / 250 = 475.2

QED

How come Beckett says 238? Oh wait I know why it's Beckett. ::facepalm::

Maybe they were 12-box cases?[/quote:v2m6lfxz]

No, they were 24-box cases. Not only were the cases serial-numbered, but Pinnacle Brands also serial-numbered the waxboxes.

Each box was sealed with a sticker that read:

Case WXYZ of 4950
Box AB of 24

They also serial-numbered each individual waxbox of '93 Select Rookie/Traded and '94 Select Series 1 & 2.

 

[chief7575]

Thanks for your help guys. I didn't realize there is a 1/1 of each class and each color.

Yup! I have somehow stumbled upon 1 of each color, but not of each class yet.

Gold class 1

Black class 2

Red class 1

 

[joey12508]

 

[Buynhisellnlow]

[quote="George_Calfas":3oh56t07]241 is one of many suggest 1993 refractor print runs, no hard numbers ever given.

Assuming that the Refractors for all 199 cards were, in fact, printed in equal quantities, then the production run was 241 copies.

Stated Case Run: 4000, 12-box cases
Insertion Ratio: 1:18 (one-per-box)

4000 * 12 / 199 = 241.21

Also, IIRC, the stated production run on the '96 Leaf Preferred Press Proofs (Golds) was 500 copies each.

I may be wrong, as it's been a while, but weren't there some that were all but confirmed to be SPs?

No. Beckett refers to them as SP but the print company and Topps confirmed equal number produced of all cards. The perceived SP was a process of poor correlation and hording.

One of the cases I open contained 10 Alex Cole refractors, subsequently I bought as many Cole as I could (and other players).
Andre Dawson was paying big money for his own cards from Robert Nappe
Many collectors buying certain players, at one time I Knew the owners of most hoards. I guy in Florida has over 100 Pudge refractors.[/quote:3oh56t07]

Thanks for the info! I didn't know that.

 

[Jastermereel]

One of the 1993 Finest cases that was opened at my local shop had almost all Norm Charlton Refractors. I'm not sure if he was listed as an SP or not.

 

[tonsofcommons]

Were there any cases that had an abundance of a star player?

 

[Philip J. Fry]

Regarding 1993 Finest: I received a comment on my blog (not approved yet) with this info.

back in 1993 i bought a box of topps finest for $80.00 i opened the first pack in the store and the very first card was a refractor then the second card was also and every card in the box was a refractor i couldnt believe it the store employee told me i pulled a 1 in 500 box i kept the pirates jay bell and orlando merced and sold the rest of the cards to a dealer for 2 thousand dollars what a thrill!

Now I know that it's unbelievable that every card in the box would be a refractor, especially in 1993.

 

[clarkfan]

Even though they aren't actual SP's, a few of the commons sell for SP prices, like Charlie Hayes and Orestes Destrade. I've seen both sell for crazy prices. Must be hoarders still making those fairly hard to find. Or, condition sensitive??