Oh Super Sweet 90's Inserts.... #3

[katieneack]

I have been meaning to ask you guys about this, but have never gotten around to it yet. It is regarding the 1999 Skybox Premium Autographics set. I know there was a black ink version and a blue ink version /50. I believe all of the blue inks were hand serial #'d correct? I have one below that is definitely blue ink but has no serial #'ing on it. Any thoughts on what this is? Here are the 2 for comparison so you can tell it is indeed a Blue Ink version:

 

[byronscott4ever]

I have been meaning to ask you guys about this, but have never gotten around to it yet. It is regarding the 1999 Skybox Premium Autographics set. I know there was a black ink version and a blue ink version /50. I believe all of the blue inks were hand serial #'d correct? I have one below that is definitely blue ink but has no serial #'ing on it. Any thoughts on what this is? Here are the 2 for comparison so you can tell it is indeed a Blue Ink version:

Maybe from a Fleer Bankruptcy sale?

 

[MansGame]

Maybe from a Fleer Bankruptcy sale?

This

 

[PadresFan86]

Hey guys, need your help. What's a realistic price to pay for this? How rare are they? I've never seen it before. Why does it say PROOF at the end?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/130687556507?_trksid=p5197.c0.m619

 

[Brewer Andy]

Hey guys, need your help. What's a realistic price to pay for this? How rare are they? I've never seen it before. Why does it say PROOF at the end?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/130687556507?_trksid=p5197.c0.m619

That'd be George's. I'm sure he'll chime in with the info you need. Except for realistic price I'm guessing its the lack of die-cut?

 

[PadresFan86]

I could be wrong and not know what I'm talking about but realistically, I don't see that card selling for even a fraction of what he has it listed for. Maybe he doesn't care to sell it and just wants to see if someone will pay an insane amount. I really don't know, that's why I visit the 90's experts for some edumacation lol

I don't think the embossed refractors have a die cut. I have the silver embossed refractor from this set. It just has a weird box rainbow colored pattern on the front.

 

[Fandruw25]

I could be wrong and not know what I'm talking about but realistically, I don't see that card selling for even a fraction of what he has it listed for. Maybe he doesn't care to sell it and just wants to see if someone will pay an insane amount. I really don't know, that's why I visit the 90's experts for some edumacation lol

I don't think the embossed refractors have a die cut. I have the silver embossed refractor from this set. It just has a weird box rainbow colored pattern on the front.

The gold embossed refractors are die cut.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/1997-Finest...0687555467?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item1e6d95d78b

 

[George_Calfas]

You might be surprised how much the uncut cards sell........With appox 32 of the die cuts inserted into packs how many un-cut/un-embossed have you seen? No it wont sell for the BIN; that is why there is a BO option.

 

[katieneack]

Hey guys, need your help. What's a realistic price to pay for this? How rare are they? I've never seen it before. Why does it say PROOF at the end?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/130687556507?_trksid=p5197.c0.m619

George - Can you elaborate a little more on exactly what these are? I have never heard of them either. Are they gold embossed refractors without the die-cut? Were they inserted into packs this way and just missed a step in the production process where they were supposed to be cut? Or was it some type of production sample that was backdoored by an employee?

 

[Gwynn545]

I could be wrong and not know what I'm talking about but realistically, I don't see that card selling for even a fraction of what he has it listed for. Maybe he doesn't care to sell it and just wants to see if someone will pay an insane amount. I really don't know, that's why I visit the 90's experts for some edumacation lol

I don't think the embossed refractors have a die cut. I have the silver embossed refractor from this set. It just has a weird box rainbow colored pattern on the front.

Your first half of your first sentence is eerily true... The non-die-cut embossed gold refractors are rare and die-hard player collectors will pay a lot for them.
Shoot, the "regular" die-cut embossed gold refractor versions are rare enough (< 100)

 

[PadresFan86]

Thanks for the responses guys. Keep in mind, my guy is Caminiti. I'm not used to paying a whole lot for his cards lol

I understand player collectors tend to spend more than what a certain card should go for some times but how many Caminiti collectors are out there? I think a rare card collector or set collector might pick it up.

 

[PadresFan86]

You might be surprised how much the uncut cards sell........With appox 32 of the die cuts inserted into packs how many un-cut/un-embossed have you seen? No it wont sell for the BIN; that is why there is a BO option.

There are 30 of these and I bought it for 43 bucks. Probably the most I ever spent on a Cammy card minus the precious metals and crusades. Just trying to figure out a good price to offer without being insulting.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1997-Pinnac...0776540307?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item35bb5a8c93

 

[George_Calfas]

There are 30 of these and I bought it for 43 bucks. Probably the most I ever spent on a Cammy card minus the precious metals and crusades. Just trying to figure out a good price to offer without being insulting.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1997-Pinnacle-Totally-Certified-Mirror-Platinum-Gold-Card-Ken-Caminiti-/230776540307?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item35bb5a8c93

Different product by far; but I understand your thought process. Many of the Totally would be selling much higher but I stopped bidding on many of them after I finished the set. I once would bid $75 on all commons just to protect my investment.

1997 Finest Gold Die Cut Embossed refractors are 1 in 8.5 cases and an appox PR of 27-32. Commons from the set normally sell for $75-150.

The Un-Cuts were Topps Proofs, Exc samples etc (some type of in-house sample). I currently own 3 players and I dont think that I have ever seen more than 2 or 3 of any one player (If anyone has please let us know). I am not sure the last player to hit ebay.

 

[PadresFan86]

Thanks for the info. I am not totally lost now lol

I just looked at the completed listings and two Tony Gwynn gold embossed refractors were sold. One for 76 and one for 151. Why such a difference? I wouldn't call him a common.

I guess I don't put that much of a premium on it for it being uncut but that's just me.

 

[RustyGreerFan]

Had a fun mailday yesterday along with that Griffey:

1999 UD Choice Starquest Gold /100 Troy Glaus

Got these from brian's auctions (next time offer them to me first! :mrgreen and thanks to Nolan for bidding me up
I needed them all for my set:

The Hit Dawg!

Had this, but it's a centering upgrade:

I always steered away from the 97 Leaf Fractal Matrix because the die-cuts look goofy, but I recently realized how nice the non die-cuts look:

Enjoying picking up Lofton recently:

1998 Pinnacle Plus Team Pinnacle

Unredeemed - too bad it's not gold medallion!

Almost have a full album page now of 1999 Prism Reds:

and some executive proofs:

 

[George_Calfas]

Thanks for the info. I am not totally lost now lol

I just looked at the completed listings and two Tony Gwynn gold embossed refractors were sold. One for 76 and one for 151. Why such a difference? I wouldn't call him a common.

I guess I don't put that much of a premium on it for it being uncut but that's just me.

BGS 9 fell flat on bids. Maddux just sold $450 and I have sold offers on Hurt and Juan.

 

[magicpapa]

Best I can do - mine is gold, but no numbering, no foily lettering effect, and you can see through it.

i take it your keeping it??

 

[katieneack]

While we are on the topic - If anyone know where I can find a 1997 Finest Gold Embossed Refractor of Barry Larkin, it is on my top 5 most wanted cards list. I still need that one.

 

[MansGame]

Had a fun mailday yesterday along with that Griffey:

Unredeemed - too bad it's not gold medallion!

I wish it was (only if you would of been willing to move it )

 

[Gwynn545]

Many of the Totally would be selling much higher but I stopped bidding on many of them after I finished the set. I once would bid $75 on all commons just to protect my investment.

NEW FLASH!!!! 90's Insert are not worth as much as we think! George Calfras sets the Prices! 90's Insert Prices are a sham!