Oh Super Sweet 90's Inserts.... #3

[Gwynn545]

That's BGS...they'll grade anything, almost literally. PSA won't grade anything without substantial support from the Beckett Big Book or the Krause Standard Catalog.

Ahh ha! That makes sense! Thnx!

 

[RStadlerASU22]

That's BGS...they'll grade anything, almost literally. PSA won't grade anything without substantial support from the Beckett Big Book or the Krause Standard Catalog.

I agree , but I have list interest in BGS overtime. And IMO 90s cards go w PSA. So it is what it is, PSA would label them Gold but no notation of Red. You would figure they would know a lil about the set but they said they looked into in and not enough info exists and not in the catalogs.
Ryan

 

[joey12508]

I agree , but I have list interest in BGS overtime. And IMO 90s cards go w PSA. So it is what it is, PSA would label them Gold but no notation of Red. You would figure they would know a lil about the set but they said they looked into in and not enough info exists and not in the catalogs.
Ryan

so if PSA did grade it, would it be graded as a gold stand and deliver??

 

[RStadlerASU22]

so if PSA did grade it, would it be graded as a gold stand and deliver??

Yeah, that would be the label

Ryan

 

[carrsallstars]

The drawback with PSA is they either don't seem to have the knowledge of a lot of rare 90s variations to slab them correctly or they don't care. My crusade rainbow is labelled 3 different ways and I have a stack of mislabeled cards like superstar samplers etc. You'd think writing the type of insert on the form would help them....but no. It's unfortunate.

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[pootshwan]

The drawback with PSA is they either don't seem to have the knowledge of a lot of rare 90s variations to slab them correctly or they don't care. My crusade rainbow is labelled 3 different ways and I have a stack of mislabeled cards like superstar samplers etc. You'd think writing the type of insert on the form would help them....but no. It's unfortunate.

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I'm probably in the vast minority here, but I can give two sh!ts what they put on the label. I know what the card is and all I'm looking from them is a grade on the condition of the card. I guess I can see where it's beneficial for population reports but outside of that, I really don't care.

 

[joey12508]

Yeah, that would be the label

Ryan

it sucks the industry doesn't listen to or cares about the collectors that have more knowledge they do.
that set is freakin awesome.

 

[Hendersonfan]

Would photos from the auction help show that the red does exist? Or are they aware of it, just not how many or rare it is?

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[magicpapa]

Would photos from the auction help show that the red does exist? Or are they aware of it, just not how many or rare it is?

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The Info is out there
[h=3]Stand and Deliver[/h] This 24-card set is broken into six separate four-card groupings and was part of a contest. Groups contain players from the following teams: 1-4 (Braves), 5-8 (Mariners), 9-12 (Yankees), 13-16 (Dodgers), 17-20 (Indians) and 21-24 (Wild Card). The four players featured within the Wild Card group are from "lesser" teams whom Pinnacle Brands thought had no shot at winning the 1997 World Series. Since the Florida Marlins won the World Series, the four Wild Cards wound up being the winning cards.
Hobbyists who held all four cards of the 1997 World Series Champion (or the four Wild Cards if one of the five selected teams did not win) could mail them to Pinnacle for a special Gold version of the set. Gold Stand and Deliver was limited to 275 sets and came encased in a glass frame. Because of the unusual distribution, Gold Stand and Deliver singles are difficult to find. The gold cards came in two different flavors, gold with silver letters and gold with red letters. The gold with red letters version is extremely rare.
All 24 cards come in 3 versions:

• Silver with gold letters
• Gold with silver letters (rare as only 225 sets were produced)
• Gold with red letters (extremely rare, print run is unknown)

 

[carrsallstars]

To some extent I agree. But if I know what the card is and I can accurately grade the condition...then what am I paying them for? I find it annoying and it probably hurts the resale value if you ever went to sell the card as average collectors assume the grading company would be the experts...

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[RStadlerASU22]

Would photos from the auction help show that the red does exist? Or are they aware of it, just not how many or rare it is?

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I sent them that, and I do not believe they follows anything other than Beckett and Standard Catalog info..
Ryan

 

[nosterbor]

That's because PSA pays graders 10 bucks an hour and most have NO CLUE about cards. Here is why.
The 1990 CMC had 3 different cards.
1990 Oklahoma City 89ers CMC

1990 Oklahoma City 89ers CMC Drug Emporium-Very tuff to find.

1990 Oklahoma City 89ers CMC English Leather -Very rare.

Where on this grade is the Drug Emporium stated? These are all listed in the Beckett big book and have been since 1991.

 

[Calripkenjrcollector]

The Info is out there
Stand and Deliver

This 24-card set is broken into six separate four-card groupings and was part of a contest. Groups contain players from the following teams: 1-4 (Braves), 5-8 (Mariners), 9-12 (Yankees), 13-16 (Dodgers), 17-20 (Indians) and 21-24 (Wild Card). The four players featured within the Wild Card group are from "lesser" teams whom Pinnacle Brands thought had no shot at winning the 1997 World Series. Since the Florida Marlins won the World Series, the four Wild Cards wound up being the winning cards.
Hobbyists who held all four cards of the 1997 World Series Champion (or the four Wild Cards if one of the five selected teams did not win) could mail them to Pinnacle for a special Gold version of the set. Gold Stand and Deliver was limited to 275 sets and came encased in a glass frame. Because of the unusual distribution, Gold Stand and Deliver singles are difficult to find. The gold cards came in two different flavors, gold with silver letters and gold with red letters. The gold with red letters version is extremely rare.
All 24 cards come in 3 versions:

• Silver with gold letters
• Gold with silver letters (rare as only 225 sets were produced)
• Gold with red letters (extremely rare, print run is unknown)

Looks like two different versions of this also.
This one looks more like Dufex and you can feel the lines

This one has a smooth lines that you can't feel.

This just came in

 

[RStadlerASU22]

Just got a message that PSA did some more research and say that they will now label them as RED if anyone sends em in. I asked them to confirm, just to make sure. Hopefully will hear tomorrow

Ryan

 

[nosterbor]

Looks like two different versions of this also.
This one looks more like Dufex and you can feel the lines

This one has a smooth lines that you can't feel.

This just came in

THATS JUST FREAKING AWESOME!

 

[BunchOBull]

Looks like two different versions of this also.
This one looks more like Dufex and you can feel the lines

This one has a smooth lines that you can't feel.

This just came in

Unfortunately (fortunately?) there are regular golds that have the dufex technology too.

 

[cbrandtw]

My head is going to explode.

 

[Gwynn545]

My head is going to explode.

OMG! I was thinking the exact thing!! Gwynn isn't even in this set, but I was thinking of that commercial where that little girl says, "What about infinity times infinity?" and the guy mimicks his head exploding!!

 

[heavy_hitter]

Speaking of head explosions, here is another crazy Will Clark sale:

1999 UD Choice Will Clark Prime Choice Reserve 24 100 | eBay

 

[magicpapa]

Unfortunately (fortunately?) there are regular golds that have the dufex technology too.

I Highly Doubt if there are regular golds that have the dufex technology too.