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MattinglyAlexander
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predatorkj said:
I really don't have a clue on how to mention this stuff without it seeming to be what I believe, but I do know what the conpiracy enthusiasts believe. I like to know what people are thinking.... and it entertains me.
Anyway, to phrase it simply as a scam doesn't even come close to what they believe. If you ever read or watch anything regarding their thinking on the Federal Reserve... you'll see the argument. It's not actually our Government, but a small group behind it and a few within it.This current mess is the almost entirely the responsibility of ONE PARTY though...and that is the DEMOCRAT/Liberal/Progressive group.... not the "Financial policies of G-Dubya Bush."
President Bush called this mess... as early as April 2001 and many times after. It was Democrats who denied reality.
predatorkj
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MattinglyAlexander said:predatorkj said:
I really don't have a clue on how to mention this stuff without it seeming to be what I believe, but I do know what the conpiracy enthusiasts believe. I like to know what people are thinking.... and it entertains me.
This current mess is the almost entirely the responsibility of ONE PARTY though...and that is the DEMOCRAT/Liberal/Progressive group.... not the "Financial policies of G-Dubya Bush."
President Bush called this mess... as early as April 2001 and many times after. It was Democrats who denied reality.
I am not saying you believe it but I was just wondering if I understood correctly.Oddly enough I believe some of it.I do think there are a select few who really run the country.Call it a scam or whatever but I do think the people in control aren't the ones who are really in control.Either way it would never be proven and even if it was and these people were locked up in jail or kept from being behind the scenes someone else would come along and do whatever they wanted.Its just the nature of the chaos that is American or worldwide politics.Its all a big crap shoot.
fengzhang
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MattinglyAlexander said:predatorkj said:
I really don't have a clue on how to mention this stuff without it seeming to be what I believe, but I do know what the conpiracy enthusiasts believe. I like to know what people are thinking.... and it entertains me.
This current mess is the almost entirely the responsibility of ONE PARTY though...and that is the DEMOCRAT/Liberal/Progressive group.... not the "Financial policies of G-Dubya Bush."
President Bush called this mess... as early as April 2001 and many times after. It was Democrats who denied reality.
Of course, Ron. It's never Dubya's fault. It's always those pesky Democrats. They engineered this whole conspiracy to tank the economy so they could convert the country to socialism.
predatorkj
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fengzhang said:MattinglyAlexander said:predatorkj said:
I really don't have a clue on how to mention this stuff without it seeming to be what I believe, but I do know what the conpiracy enthusiasts believe. I like to know what people are thinking.... and it entertains me.
This current mess is the almost entirely the responsibility of ONE PARTY though...and that is the DEMOCRAT/Liberal/Progressive group.... not the "Financial policies of G-Dubya Bush."
President Bush called this mess... as early as April 2001 and many times after. It was Democrats who denied reality.
Of course, Ron. It's never Dubya's fault. It's always those pesky Democrats. They engineered this whole conspiracy to tank the economy so they could convert the country to socialism.
Honestly I think its neither.If someone were really doing things like this things like democrat and republican wouldn't really matter.They wouldn't play a role.
KC37
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401K is about half what it was.
Still have my job (teaching), but we'll have a wage freeze for the upcoming year, and they're closing schools in my district, meaning we get a whole new grade in my school, which limits resources and such. And while we were hoping to hire more teachers, I still have to teach social studies next year (in addition to my math classes).
So, I voted yes.
Still have my job (teaching), but we'll have a wage freeze for the upcoming year, and they're closing schools in my district, meaning we get a whole new grade in my school, which limits resources and such. And while we were hoping to hire more teachers, I still have to teach social studies next year (in addition to my math classes).
So, I voted yes.
Mighty Bombjack
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fengzhang said:
MA cracks me up. I didn't read it too carefully, but I don't think anyone in this post has blamed Bush alone for this stuff. In fact, most people I know don't view this mess along Dem/Rep party lines. From what I've seen, MA can't (or doesn't want to) view things any other way.
jdacunha
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Work for a well known brokerage firm..just left a well known one that went down the tubes.
I have not been effected at all. I am actually making 40% more this year.
I have not been effected at all. I am actually making 40% more this year.
200lbhockeyplayer
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- Aug 10, 2008
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Don't take this the wrong way, but I did laugh a few times at some of the word choices here.jdacunha said:
jdacunha
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200lbhockeyplayer said:
I should proofread before I post. I am arguing on the phone with someone while I was typing...sorry
DaleMurphyCollector
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200lbhockeyplayer said:
hive17
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I voted no.
I'll probably even be getting a promotion actually, so i might see an up-tic
I'll probably even be getting a promotion actually, so i might see an up-tic
I voted no but I guess in a small way I could say yes. I'm a college student but I do work in the food industry. So we've seen a decline in business ever since all of this recession stuff started happening. As a result I'm making a little less money but I still make enough to pay my bills and I use student loans to help out as well. Which I've always done. So for the most part the recession really hasn't effected me much.
JackLondon
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Have been affected. Several have been laid off at my work lately. My coworkers and I are in the position of justifying our existence every week. Have been some ugly situations lately involving backbiting and cozying up to supervisors. While I desperately need this job, it is getting very tough to go into work and hear the latest. 
MattinglyAlexander
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fengzhang said:MattinglyAlexander said:predatorkj said:
I really don't have a clue on how to mention this stuff without it seeming to be what I believe, but I do know what the conpiracy enthusiasts believe. I like to know what people are thinking.... and it entertains me.
This current mess is the almost entirely the responsibility of ONE PARTY though...and that is the DEMOCRAT/Liberal/Progressive group.... not the "Financial policies of G-Dubya Bush."
President Bush called this mess... as early as April 2001 and many times after. It was Democrats who denied reality.
Of course, Ron. It's never Dubya's fault. It's always those pesky Democrats. They engineered this whole conspiracy to tank the economy so they could convert the country to socialism.
I'm glad you admit it. It's hard for you ultra liberal ZERO moral owning types to admit anything. Maybe a step in the right direction for you?
Of course, I wasn't saying that's what has happened... just that some people believe it with good REASON... you just need that to be the case so you can say something...anything.
The fact remains:
April, 2001:
The Bush Administration's FY02 budget declares that the size of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac is "a potential problem," because "financial trouble of a large GSE could cause strong repercussions in financial markets, affecting Federally insured entities and economic activity."
May, 2002:
The President calls for the disclosure and corporate governance principles contained in his 10-point plan for corporate responsibility to apply to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
(OMB Prompt Letter to OFHEO, 5/29/02)
...ehh forget it, you probably know it's true. You're just too smart to ever admit you've been hoodwinked and bamboozled aren't you....?
You know the Bush administration warned of the coming collapse and that Democrats such as Barney Frank, Nancy Pelosi and even Obama blocked every attempt to stop it....every attempt to reform.
[youtube:1em4q1yv]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hN31-nKndg8[/youtube:1em4q1yv]
bballcardkid
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I'm going to several Tea Parties this summer.
MattinglyAlexander
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bballcardkid said:
We'll have tea parties and they can have Jim Jones style Kool-Aid parties.
HoustonTeams4Me
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For those replying "no", if you sell card's on Ebay then the economy has affected you (even in the smallest since, it still has decreased our beloved sell value's across the board). It's had a serious effect on my life & my family's! :?
chuckbartowski
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I will start making some sacrifices...it's hasn't him me yet, but I want to make sure I'm prepared just in case. I'll probably be cutting my card spending budget in half.
bballcardkid
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For those of you listening to the news (any and all including Fox), I don't understand why they are saying that economists say that raising taxes is the wrong thing to do. I have taken Macroecon and recieved an A (not bragging but 14% of roughly 400 students recieved an A. Figured I would say that to let everyone know that I am somewhat credible and not just pulling stuff out of my ****). Please everyone, take a look at this page in this economics textbook:
http://books.google.com/books?id=cV0EZu ... &ct=result
The media is saying that taxes are evil. Politicians are saying taxes are evil. Let me put this in simple terms: the raising of taxes reduces dispoable income for everyone. With less income (or capital for businesses), spending decreaeses, saving increases, and fear is everywhere. Companies can't hire people. Companies can't invest in research and development. Companies can't invest in expansive measures such as new businesses, new equipment, new patents, etc. The economy shuts down, unemployment increases, inventories rise, production slows down. More taxes act as a restrictor plate on a race car. The engine is the economy, the taxes is the restrictor plate. The taxes (restrictor plate) jokes the economy (engine).
On a sidenote, I think it's funny that admist this economic crisis, the democrats and media have nothing better to do than to try and destroy Rush Limbaugh. I thought they had a problem to fix. I guess it just confirms that the left is threatened by a highschool dropout.
http://books.google.com/books?id=cV0EZu ... &ct=result
The media is saying that taxes are evil. Politicians are saying taxes are evil. Let me put this in simple terms: the raising of taxes reduces dispoable income for everyone. With less income (or capital for businesses), spending decreaeses, saving increases, and fear is everywhere. Companies can't hire people. Companies can't invest in research and development. Companies can't invest in expansive measures such as new businesses, new equipment, new patents, etc. The economy shuts down, unemployment increases, inventories rise, production slows down. More taxes act as a restrictor plate on a race car. The engine is the economy, the taxes is the restrictor plate. The taxes (restrictor plate) jokes the economy (engine).
On a sidenote, I think it's funny that admist this economic crisis, the democrats and media have nothing better to do than to try and destroy Rush Limbaugh. I thought they had a problem to fix. I guess it just confirms that the left is threatened by a highschool dropout.
