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OT - Economy Poll Regarding YOU and only YOU

Are you personally (not a friend or family member) affected by the "bad economy"?

  • Yes - my life has been altered

    Votes: 0 0.0%

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hive17 said:
MattinglyAlexander said:
bballcardkid said:
Please listen to these videos. If you have an agenda towards a particular person without even hearing their ideas, then shame on you.

They've heard too much from the other "news" outlets, John Stewart, Little Stevie Colbert, Matthews, Olbermann and Obama to ever trust little old Limbaugh....or Fox News.

I see Limbaugh in the same light as Stewart, Colbert, Matthews and Olbermann....but while Rush does go over the top...and over the edge a lot, he's not even half as crazy as the other guys I mention.

I'm not a Rush fan....
I do like O'Reilly but he's a blowhard.
I like Hannity.....

but the best show on Fox is Red-Eye :D

OH!, you came so close to saying something I could agree with; then you had to qualify it with some bias.

Of course Rush is the same as Jon Stewart and the like. Really, there is no problem with Rush and his opinions. It's the people that think he telling them facts. I love how Rush gets on Obama and the "Obamites" in thier cult. It's like Rush doesn't hear his own fans when they call in. They slobber over him and placate his ego as bad or worse than anyone else anywhere.

But this is also why i agree that Rush saying he "wants Obama to fail" (which he didn't say and was very good at qualifying what he did say) is not a big deal. To paraphrase the only Republican with the nutsack to stand up to Rush, Gov. Schwarzenager, "Rush doesn't matter." At the end of the day, Rush don't decide shat. He's an entertainer, NOTHING MORE. anyone who thinks Rush, Stewart, O'Reilly, Colbert, Hannity or Olberman are newsmen is a complete idiot. They get paid for their entertaining opinions, NOT the news. Those hacks wouldn't know how to report the news if they were locked in study-hall at Northwestern, Columbia, Berkley, or Wisconsin.

I respect your opinion. No, none of these guys report the news. They have agendas. But one thing you posted I don't agree with which is in your first paragraph. Please watch this, it sums up what I am about to say:

edit: I also have to say that perhaps these guys don't do shat, but your underestimating the power of Limbaugh and Limbaugh alone. For James Carville to sit in front of the TV and say that Republican Representatives and Senators tremble when they speak with Rush, and that he is the face of the GOP, I mean, he accomplishes so much indirectly that it can't be quantified. McCain got as many votes as he did because of Rush. The conservative movement exists because of Rush, not Hannity, not O'Reilley, and not the clowns at M$NBC.

[youtube:2cfugkku]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6RUjzOMB2o[/youtube:2cfugkku]
 

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I voted No - I see no personal changes. Me and my wife have always used coupons, found great deals online, sold old stuff we no longer use. My job is pretty secure and they recently added money to my 401K which hasn't been hit hard either because none of it is in high risk stocks.
 

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bballcardkid said:
I respect your opinion. No, none of these guys report the news. They have agendas. But one thing you posted I don't agree with which is in your first paragraph. Please watch this, it sums up what I am about to say:

edit: I also have to say that perhaps these guys don't do shat, but your underestimating the power of Limbaugh and Limbaugh alone. For James Carville to sit in front of the TV and say that Republican Representatives and Senators tremble when they speak with Rush, and that he is the face of the GOP, I mean, he accomplishes so much indirectly that it can't be quantified. McCain got as many votes as he did because of Rush. The conservative movement exists because of Rush, not Hannity, not O'Reilley, and not the clowns at M$NBC.

Well, what I think I just watched there was Rush marginalizing himself. He still basically side-stepped that guy's and my assertion (I believe, correct assertion) that people DO react the exact same to him as they do Obama. That was the ONLY point of that guy's call, but Rush used it as a jump-off to attack Obama some more.

Furthermore, Rush's high-pressure rant there seems to validate my point: Rush doesn't count for anything in this world. He says he doesn't want that kind of power (I think he's fooling himself) but, I'm sorry, if he truely doesn't want it, then he's a bit of a coward. He's perfectly happy to hurl insult and disdain from the sidelines, but he doesn't have the stones to get in the game; most certainly because he knows he wouldn't be taken seriously.

The only other thing I got from that is standard Rush: saying bad things are going to happen; delivering his OPINION for fact.
 

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hive17 said:
bballcardkid said:
I respect your opinion. No, none of these guys report the news. They have agendas. But one thing you posted I don't agree with which is in your first paragraph. Please watch this, it sums up what I am about to say:

edit: I also have to say that perhaps these guys don't do shat, but your underestimating the power of Limbaugh and Limbaugh alone. For James Carville to sit in front of the TV and say that Republican Representatives and Senators tremble when they speak with Rush, and that he is the face of the GOP, I mean, he accomplishes so much indirectly that it can't be quantified. McCain got as many votes as he did because of Rush. The conservative movement exists because of Rush, not Hannity, not O'Reilley, and not the clowns at M$NBC.

Well, what I think I just watched there was Rush marginalizing himself. He still basically side-stepped that guy's and my assertion (I believe, correct assertion) that people DO react the exact same to him as they do Obama. That was the ONLY point of that guy's call, but Rush used it as a jump-off to attack Obama some more.

Furthermore, Rush's high-pressure rant there seems to validate my point: Rush doesn't count for anything in this world. He says he doesn't want that kind of power (I think he's fooling himself) but, I'm sorry, if he truely doesn't want it, then he's a bit of a coward. He's perfectly happy to hurl insult and disdain from the sidelines, but he doesn't have the stones to get in the game; most certainly because he knows he wouldn't be taken seriously.

The only other thing I got from that is standard Rush: saying bad things are going to happen; delivering his OPINION for fact.

I can see where that argument is coming from. Rush does inspire a lot of people, including myself, otherwise I wouldn't listen to it everyday. But a lot of his viewers don't see the Rush love as a cult. If he gets out of line, people will jump ship. Look at his McNabb coment which was the absolute dumbest thing to say. Even if it were true, he should have known what was going to happen. With Obamaism, Obama can't do anything wrong. I think he handled that situation the best he could, as there really wasn't anything else he could say.

As far as Rush actually running for office, the guy is not a comedian like Stewart or Colbert, or the crazy goof that ran for office this past November up north (forgot his name, the one that failed at liberal talk radio). He is a partisan poltical voice. He would be taken seriously. The only people who seem to discredit his voice are the guys at M$NBC who chuckle at the very mention of his name, perhaps in spite of pure jealousy, or hatred. Chris Matthews has gone on record as saying he was thnking of running for public office in 2010 or 2012. Think people would take him seriously? Rush has his nitch. Rush has said he has no desire to run for office (I think he would get more votes than most expect). He is happy. He gets paid a VERY nice salary, he's in Palm Beach. He doesn't want to put up with the fools in Washington everday. He's living a good, successful life, and he has more of an impact every fourth November than most politicans do.
 

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