Penn State

[thefatguy]

NCAA president Mark Emmert has not ruled out drastically punishing Penn State football in the wake of the Jerry Sandusky scandal.
Emmert gave a candid interview Monday on PBS' "Tavis Smiley," claiming that he still is waiting for Penn State's official response to the Freeh report and acknowledging that the NCAA has not eliminated the possibility of imposing severe sanctions against the school's storied football program.
"I've never seen anything as egregious as this in terms of just overall conduct and behavior inside a university and hope never to see it again," Emmert said during the interview. "What the appropriate penalties are, if there are determinations of violations, we'll have to decide
"We'll hold in abeyance all of those decisions until we've actually decided what we want to do with the actual charges should there be any. And I don't want to take anything off the table."

I said what I had to say about Paterno in his thread. I want this to be about what the University, State, NCAA and civil lawsuits bring about.

I said nail them last year. I'll find that quote a little later.

 

[Gwynn545]

I'll just reply with a quote from my Penn State Makes Me Sicker thread from two weeks ago:

I think it is silly that "people" are still trying to protect the University. Anyone that lives in the Penn St. area or went to Penn St. and escaped unscathed are just plain lucky. Too many people (kids, families...) were not so lucky... The "leaders" of the school are just as much to blame. Shut 'em down, offer all students and Athletes the chance to go somewhere else w/out penalty... Their "payment" for their hardship of having to change schools: they weren't *****. Take it and run...far away!

Shut 'em down!

 

[Mighty Bombjack]

A university is a very large, multi-faceted place whose athletics are supposed to supplement the academics on offer.
For Penn State to demonstrate that that is indeed what they are, they should voluntarily suspend their football program for several years.

 

[JackLondon]

A university is a very large, multi-faceted place whose athletics are supposed to supplement the academics on offer.
For Penn State to demonstrate that that is indeed what they are, they should voluntarily suspend their football program for several years.

Agree 100%

 

[RITM]

It would be an insult for the program to continue playing games without a suspension.

 

[HPC]

Penn State will not voluntarily stop playing football as it brings in millions in revenue for the school every year.

Should they do it voluntarily, yes? Will they end up being forced to, probably.

 

[thefatguy]

They won't even take the statue down.

I'll pull up the quote from behind the statue. It makes me sick to read it.


The NCAA will have to smack them down.

 

[mstng99tim]

I believe there should be a 1 year MINIMUM death penalty for the football program. I do feel bad for the surrounding area that would be devastated by the death penalty, like hotels & restaurants. However, sometimes you have to take the good with the bad. Look at the people who worked for Enron, they did nothing wrong and they were out of a job.

The players should be allowed to transfer to any school and PSU pays for their education without having to sit out a year.

 

[thefatguy]

Penn State Field Hockey will just have to pick up the slack.

 

[Labratt21]

Okay Penn State: you can keep the Joe Paterno statue. But you have to put a Sandusky-in-cuffs one right next to it. - Denis Leary

 

[HPC]

Remember, this is also the school who's kids camped outside Paterno's house in support after he had just been fired over the Sandusky situation.

The students and alot of the people are still blind, whether by their own choice or naivety.

 

[thefatguy]

JoePa's Alma mater is considering losing his name from an annual award. The Big 10 did it first last year.


GolLocalProv ran a statement from the school:

"Since 1991, the Department of Athletics and Physical Education has presented an award to this year's outstanding male freshman athlete. In 1993 that award was renamed to honor Brown alumnus Joe Paterno '50. In the spring of 2012, the Department of Athletics and Physical Education presented the award as it was originally created, honoring the year's outstanding male freshman athlete but without Joe Paterno's name attached. Now that the Freeh report has been released, the University will make a decision about the naming of the award in future years."

 

[thefatguy]

Residents of State College could look into the sky and find one person's opinion on whether Joe Paterno's statue should stay outside the Penn State campus.

An airplane banner was being flown Tuesday morning with the message, "Take down the statue or we will."

According to Ben Jones of StateCollege.com, the plane has been in the air for more than two hours as of 1 p.m. ET.

The school has not committed to any decision on the Paterno statue immediately after the Freeh Report condemned the former Nittany Lions coach and other school officials for failing to deal with sexual abuse allegations against Jerry Sandusky.

 

[RL24]

An airplane banner was being flown Tuesday morning with the message, "Take down the statue or we will."

Who is "we"?


I felt bad for Joe P, the way he was condemned so quickly by everybody before they even knew the whole story. Now that I know the whole story, I feel bad for feeling bad for Joe.

 

[thefatguy]

Who is "we"?

Anyone that can read, that has a brain and that has a heart.




The script behind the statue reads:

They ask me what I'd like written about me When I'm gone.
I hope they write I made Penn State a better place.
Not just that I was a good football coach.

Sadly, JoePa, I think that's all you ever were. A good football coach.
You ruined that school. You ruined the lives of countless individuals.
And you ruined your own legacy. You could have been a hero, someone that turned in a sick sexual predator, but you are not. You are a coward.

 

[HPC]

FWIW, I never bought into his cenial old man bs routine that he constantly played in the media.

Plausible deniability didnt work for ya, did it Joe.

 

[Card Magnet]

I'm against punishing the entire university or football program in any way that hurts the current students. Giving th program the death penalty (as I've seen auggested) extends punishment to too many innocent studemt athletes.

I think that any player with a scholarahip should be allowed to freely transfer to any school they choose that will accept them, and that PSU should have to pay their scholarship equivalent to that new school.

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[Liberate Baltimore]

I'm against punishing the entire university or football program in any way that hurts the current students. Giving th program the death penalty (as I've seen auggested) extends punishment to too many innocent studemt athletes.

I think that any player with a scholarahip should be allowed to freely transfer to any school they choose that will accept them, and that PSU should have to pay their scholarship equivalent to that new school.

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Collateral damage. Don't let the victims get lost here. The inconvenience of an athlete who already has a full scholarship is far less important than sending a message to Penn State and State College that these heinous acts will not go unpunished.

 

[Liberate Baltimore]

As very much a side, I wonder how far the 1950 Topps Felt Football Paterno rookie is going to drop?

 

[Card Magnet]

Collateral damage. Don't let the victims get lost here. The inconvenience of an athlete who already has a full scholarship is far less important than sending a message to Penn State and State College that these heinous acts will not go unpunished.

How exactly does shutting down the football program help the victims? Collateral damage just creates more victims, just of a different injustice. You would not bomb an entire city just because the mayor comitted a crime. The son is never punished for the crimes of the father.

The majority of people have rented at some point in their life, so I'll make this comparison :

You're renting an apartment. It's been found out that a janitor was raping kids in the boiler room. It's also been found out the building manager and a few guys in the owning partnership knew but covered it up.

Should you bear the burden of their punishment as well? You still have to live in that building because you signed a lease. If you manage to get approved to get out of the lease, you can't find another building with space, willing to accommodate you, or in your price range. You had a slim chance to get a new job making three figures, possibly more, but since you lived in that apartment, you are inadverntantly denied by outside punishment from having the chance to even apply for the job. You did participate in an activity that looks good on a resume, but you can't participate anymore. You are also restricted from enjoying whatever you favorite hobby is. All because of people you had nothing to do with committed a crime.

That's essentially what would be happening to the student athletes.

Apologies for eny errors in typing. I'm on my phone, and am a terrible phone typer.

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