Peyton Manning or Tom Brady?

[bradical]

Completely different style of QB's for completely different styles of offense. Without a doubt, they are both two of the greatest at what they do.

Teams and dynasties have been built around them.

I think Brady has achieved more with less around him, but Peyton might be the better prototypical QB.

 

[pujolsthomefan33]

This exact question was a poll last week on ESPN.com....thousands of people voted and it wasnt even close....Manning by a long shot.

Brady is a good QB, no doubt, but NOBODY in the NFL (probably ever) has an understanding of the game and ability to pick apart a defense better than Peyton Manning......lets be honest here, Peyton Manning is the offensive coordinator for the Colts, Brady has to look at his play sheet on his arm, whereas Manning just looks at the Defense...


Both have had good players around them, Patriots had one of the Best defenses in the Game for their Super Bowl wins, which was probably more important than Brady being their QB...


TK

 

[RITM]

But having one of the best minds in football have the confidence in his QB to go for it in that spot... Well, I guess that just doesn't matter.

Was it confidence or did Belichick know the game situation? They were clearly confused even before the start of the series by burning a TO. After the game Bill kept saying that they had to have got a yard on that play. Unless I am missing something I remember it being 4th and 2 and not 4th and 1.

 

[Tomlinson21RB]

But having one of the best minds in football have the confidence in his QB to go for it in that spot... Well, I guess that just doesn't matter.

Was it confidence or did Belichick know the game situation? They were clearly confused even before the start of the series by burning a TO. After the game Bill kept saying that they had to have got a yard on that play. Unless I am missing something I remember it being 4th and 2 and not 4th and 1.

I think it was confidence. If they thought it was 4th and 1 I'd be willing to be you would have seen Tom Brady take the 1 yard himself.

 

[KOBEARODLT]

Both are very good QB's. Peyton has done more with less. Brady stepped into a Super Bowl caliber team, but Manning inherited nothing when he came to Indy. (The Patriots also have had better defenses throughout the years.)

I give the nod to Manning.

LOLZ.

Brady won a Super Bowl with Antowain Smith, Deion Branch, & Troy Brown.

Manning? Joseph Addai, Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark. The Colts back up RB (Rhodes) was better than Antowain.

deffense wins championships

 

[RITM]

But having one of the best minds in football have the confidence in his QB to go for it in that spot... Well, I guess that just doesn't matter.

Was it confidence or did Belichick know the game situation? They were clearly confused even before the start of the series by burning a TO. After the game Bill kept saying that they had to have got a yard on that play. Unless I am missing something I remember it being 4th and 2 and not 4th and 1.

I think it was confidence. If they thought it was 4th and 1 I'd be willing to be you would have seen Tom Brady take the 1 yard himself.

I read an NFL.com article that a reporter asked Bill if he knew it was a 2 yard situation and not 1. Apparently Bill said he knew the situation despite repeatedly saying it was 4th & 1. I'm a percentages guy myself and still feel the punt is the proper play. You force Indy to make more plays, thus increasing the chance of an error. Yes Manning was Manning on the scoring drives, but he had also thrown 2 picks. I can appreciate confidence in Brady, though, in the situation.

I'm in the camp of wondering why they didn't just let Addai score instead of tackling him at the 1. If you're going for it on 4th & 2 from your 28 up by 6 you had might as well let them score there and try to get the ball with as much time as possible for a potential GW FG.

 

[Tomlinson21RB]

But having one of the best minds in football have the confidence in his QB to go for it in that spot... Well, I guess that just doesn't matter.

Was it confidence or did Belichick know the game situation? They were clearly confused even before the start of the series by burning a TO. After the game Bill kept saying that they had to have got a yard on that play. Unless I am missing something I remember it being 4th and 2 and not 4th and 1.

I think it was confidence. If they thought it was 4th and 1 I'd be willing to be you would have seen Tom Brady take the 1 yard himself.

I read an NFL.com article that a reporter asked Bill if he knew it was a 2 yard situation and not 1. Apparently Bill said he knew the situation despite repeatedly saying it was 4th & 1. I'm a percentages guy myself and still feel the punt is the proper play. You force Indy to make more plays, thus increasing the chance of an error. Yes Manning was Manning on the scoring drives, but he had also thrown 2 picks. I can appreciate confidence in Brady, though, in the situation.

I'm in the camp of wondering why they didn't just let Addai score instead of tackling him at the 1. If you're going for it on 4th & 2 from your 28 up by 6 you had might as well let them score there and try to get the ball with as much time as possible for a potential GW FG.

I agree, and I posted that in the the game thread. I had people over to watch the game and someone yelled "stop him" and I said "no, let him go." It makes more sense to just let them score and then have a minute to try and drive 50 yards for a field goal.

 

[colts1888]

Peyton Manning hands down. You give me the Patriots d from 02-07 guarentte the colts win all 5 years. peyton Manning is the sdmartest quarterback he beat one of the mind game in the game. Peyton may have done with wayne,clark edge and harrison but what about Pollard,hartsock,garcon,collie,stokely. he has turned solid recievers into threats. he makes everyone better. Also as soon as Stokely and Pollard leave they have done absolutly nothing for the current teams so what does that tell you. Another thing if a team is down by 7 points with 2 minutes left I want manning as he gives you the better chance to win. Lastly the biggest difference maker is adam Vinateri. The dude won 3 SBs because of FG he leaves the patriots goes to the colts same year which team wins the Sb Colts!

 

[osappy1]

Peyton Manning hands down. You give me the Patriots d from 02-07 guarentte the colts win all 5 years. peyton Manning is the sdmartest quarterback he beat one of the mind game in the game. Peyton may have done with wayne,clark edge and harrison but what about Pollard,hartsock,garcon,collie,stokely. he has turned solid recievers into threats. he makes everyone better. Also as soon as Stokely and Pollard leave they have done absolutly nothing for the current teams so what does that tell you. Another thing if a team is down by 7 points with 2 minutes left I want manning as he gives you the better chance to win. Lastly the biggest difference maker is adam Vinateri. The dude won 3 SBs because of FG he leaves the patriots goes to the colts same year which team wins the Sb Colts!

Would of could of should of, YOU HAVE 1 RING. So all this talk of D this, Vinateri that it still took Tom Brady to drive them into position to kick the field goal. Doing with the offensive personnel of A Smith, D Patton, P Pass, K Faulk, D Branch, T Brown, quite a bit less than Manning had to work with.

 

[KOBEARODLT]

Peyton Manning hands down. You give me the Patriots d from 02-07 guarentte the colts win all 5 years. peyton Manning is the sdmartest quarterback he beat one of the mind game in the game. Peyton may have done with wayne,clark edge and harrison but what about Pollard,hartsock,garcon,collie,stokely. he has turned solid recievers into threats. he makes everyone better. Also as soon as Stokely and Pollard leave they have done absolutly nothing for the current teams so what does that tell you. Another thing if a team is down by 7 points with 2 minutes left I want manning as he gives you the better chance to win. Lastly the biggest difference maker is adam Vinateri. The dude won 3 SBs because of FG he leaves the patriots goes to the colts same year which team wins the Sb Colts!

Would of could of should of, YOU HAVE 1 RING. So all this talk of D this, Vinateri that it still took Tom Brady to drive them into position to kick the field goal. Doing with the offensive personnel of A Smith, D Patton, P Pass, K Faulk, D Branch, T Brown, quite a bit less than Manning had to work with.

yess but it was mainly his deffense that one those championships.....if he would have won against the giants that i would have said that was mainly him because there offense was incredible than.

 

[bodiaz]

Brady did NOT step into a SuperBowl team! The Pats were a joke when Bledsoe got hurt! I remember being in Vegas the week of Bradys first start against the Colts. I remember telling my uncle to bet the house on the Colts who were double digit favorites. The Pats were a joke and the Colts were very good! Brady helped make that a Super Bowl team.

 

[kdailey4315]

Manning.

Atheletically neither can run, they are precise and both have a cannon. Both spread the offense and neither need a huge running game to be successful.

Manning gets the heads up by his ability to read the defense when he gets to the line and audible to pick the D apart. That's why I'd take Manning over Brady.

Brady's arm is average at best. He's accurate but far form having a cannon.

Dumbest comment in this thread.

You honestly think that Brady has an above average arm in terms of power? He's off the charts accurate but come on he doesn't have a cannon

 

[pujolsthomefan33]

Both are very good QB's. Peyton has done more with less. Brady stepped into a Super Bowl caliber team, but Manning inherited nothing when he came to Indy. (The Patriots also have had better defenses throughout the years.)

I give the nod to Manning.

LOLZ.

Brady won a Super Bowl with Antowain Smith, Deion Branch, & Troy Brown.

Manning? Joseph Addai, Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark. The Colts back up RB (Rhodes) was better than Antowain.

deffense wins championships

Chicago Bears disagree......

 

[Tomlinson21RB]

Manning.

Atheletically neither can run, they are precise and both have a cannon. Both spread the offense and neither need a huge running game to be successful.

Manning gets the heads up by his ability to read the defense when he gets to the line and audible to pick the D apart. That's why I'd take Manning over Brady.

Brady's arm is average at best. He's accurate but far form having a cannon.

Dumbest comment in this thread.

You honestly think that Brady has an above average arm in terms of power? He's off the charts accurate but come on he doesn't have a cannon

I stand by my statement, dumbest comment in this thread.

 

[HoustonTeams4Me]

This exact question was a poll last week on ESPN.com....thousands of people voted and it wasnt even close....Manning by a long shot.

Brady is a good QB, no doubt, but NOBODY in the NFL (probably ever) has an understanding of the game and ability to pick apart a defense better than Peyton Manning......lets be honest here, Peyton Manning is the offensive coordinator for the Colts, Brady has to look at his play sheet on his arm, whereas Manning just looks at the Defense...

Both have had good players around them, Patriots had one of the Best defenses in the Game for their Super Bowl wins, which was probably more important than Brady being their QB...


TK

Post "Thanked" as this is exactly what I think (couldn't have written it better)!

 

[coltsnsox07]

Don't forget the Tuck Rule when talking about Brady!

 

[ross9013]

Peyton Manning.

 

[ffgameman]

It's hard to choose.

I like Manning much more than Brady but both had gotten so much done with so little. Apart from Harrison/Wayne and Moss/Welker neither have been blessed with great receivers.....instead, they MAKE good receivers. You could even argue that with other teams Wayne and Welker might not be who they are.

 

[kdailey4315]

This exact question was a poll last week on ESPN.com....thousands of people voted and it wasnt even close....Manning by a long shot.

Brady is a good QB, no doubt, but NOBODY in the NFL (probably ever) has an understanding of the game and ability to pick apart a defense better than Peyton Manning......lets be honest here, Peyton Manning is the offensive coordinator for the Colts, Brady has to look at his play sheet on his arm, whereas Manning just looks at the Defense...

Both have had good players around them, Patriots had one of the Best defenses in the Game for their Super Bowl wins, which was probably more important than Brady being their QB...


TK

Joe Montana

 

[KandKCards]

Both are very good QB's. Peyton has done more with less. Brady stepped into a Super Bowl caliber team, but Manning inherited nothing when he came to Indy. (The Patriots also have had better defenses throughout the years.)

I give the nod to Manning.

LOLZ.

Brady won a Super Bowl with Antowain Smith, Deion Branch, & Troy Brown.

Manning? Joseph Addai, Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark. The Colts back up RB (Rhodes) was better than Antowain.

deffense wins championships

You're right. And that defense went 5-11 the year before and started 0-2 before Brady took over in 01.
I didn't want to post 10 different responses, so I'll put them all in one post.
1. "Brady has to look at his playsheet, while Manning just has to look at the defense." Not true. The Patriots passing game is probably the most complex and difficult in football. The receivers do NOT run routes. They basically run to where the defense isn't, and Brady has to not only read the defense, but read his receiver too, which he does while delivering perfect throws.
2. "The whole country chose Manning over Brady!" So? Since when do regular people know anything about what makes one player better than another??
3. Defense wins championships, yes....and that's exactly why Manning has a ring. That defense stepped up and shut down the run, while Manning was mediocre, at best, with a less than 1-1 TD-INT ratio. Credit him for doing what he had to do to win, but I get tired of hearing that he was the reason that team won. The two playoff losses to the Pats, the defense only gave up 20 and 24 points. Definitely not a shut down performance, but it's not like they got blown out. Manning put up 17 points TOTAL between those two games.
4. Manning is 7-8 in the playoffs with an 85 QB rating (regular season career 95), and it would be a lot worse if he hadn't fattened up on bad wild card teams; 9 of his 22 career playoff TDs came in two wildcard games against the Broncos. Brady is 14-3 in the playoffs with an 88 rating (93.6 regular season). The only game where he could be blamed for the loss is the Super Bowl against the Giants, although the Giants absolutely dominated up front and he had no time to throw.
5. Many are saying Manning is having his best season yet. Brady is coming off a major knee injury and their stats are almost identical.
6. Vinatieri won a playoff game for Manning too. Remember when they played the Ravens and Manning put up zero TDs, but Vinatieri hit like 6 field goals to win it?
7. The Panthers scored 29 points against the Pats D, including a last minute, game-tying TD. Brady threw for 350 and 3 TDs (100.5 rating). That's hardly what I would call "Defense winning the game."
In general, there has been way too much selling the other guy short in this thread. Both are phenomenal, the two best I'll ever see no doubt.