Poll: As a eBay seller would you....

[muchuckwagon]

If a modern card (not graded) has sold 8 times between $8 and $11 during the last two weeks and the player is not hot at the moment.....would you consider a best offer of $12 unreasonable on a listing for a card graded a BGS 9?

Would you send the individual that made the offer an message that read;

"I blocked you from bidding on my auctions. Stop trying to low ball me with rediculous offer. Don't wasting my time."

His BIN was about 2x my best offer, I don't understand why he/sell would not make a counter-offer? The card has been listed about 6 straight weeks with no takers....but then again, I can see why...if he/she keeps blocking bidders.

 

[MojoDan]

I would think it depends on player/card. If its someone from the 80s or something where the price rarely changes then I would think a price consistent with completed auctions would be fine. If we are talking about someone thats a prospect/young star where pricing can be volatile, I guess I would go a different route.

I dont consider a BGS 9 that much different unless its a card that is condition sensative like 1970-1 topps or something...

Is it only one of a handful of bgs 9s of that player? Its hard to say without a name really bud...depends on the player in my eyes...

 

[muchuckwagon]

I would think it depends on player/card. If its someone from the 80s or something where the price rarely changes then I would think a price consistent with completed auctions would be fine. If we are talking about someone thats a prospect/young star where pricing can be volatile, I guess I would go a different route.

I dont consider a BGS 9 that much different unless its a card that is condition sensative like 1970-1 topps or something...

Is it only one of a handful of bgs 9s of that player? Its hard to say without a name really bud...depends on the player in my eyes...

It is a prospect that is not "hot" at the moment....as stated above, sales of the card all fall into the $8 - $11 range and the card is not condition sensitive based on the BGS population report.

 

[MojoDan]

If that is indeed the case, it could be that the seller paid a premium for the card when he was hot? Personally, if it were me, I would think if you offered something that is the top end of the market value (that being $11) I would certainly consider it. If its a card that you really wanted baaaad as a collector, I would offer 20...just to know you have it for the pc...

 

[ChasHawk]

My attitude for quite a while now has been, F the seller and move on.

There are literally dozens of cards that have been relisted every 30 days
since Feb. of 2008 that would be in my collection, if not for stubborn a$$ seller's
and their ridiculous prices. Obviously some people don't really care if they sell,
and you just have to move on to the next card.

 

[MojoDan]

My attitude for quite a while now has been, F the seller and move on.

There are literally dozens of cards that have been relisted every 30 days
since Feb. of 2008 that would be in my collection, if not for stubborn a$$ seller's
and their ridiculous prices. Obviously some people don't really care if they sell,
and you just have to move on to the next card.

...and then there's that school of thought... :lol:

sorry to hear about your misfortune in that arena chas...

 

[MOFNY]

I'm with chashawk. The seller is in denial and obviously doesn't want to sell. This is the ultimate problem with about 90% of Ebay Store items.

 

[ChasHawk]

My attitude for quite a while now has been, F the seller and move on.

There are literally dozens of cards that have been relisted every 30 days
since Feb. of 2008 that would be in my collection, if not for stubborn a$$ seller's
and their ridiculous prices. Obviously some people don't really care if they sell,
and you just have to move on to the next card.

...and then there's that school of thought... :lol:

sorry to hear about your misfortune in that arena chas...

Sorry, didn't mean to sound so militant about it :lol:

The thing is, I guess, on the rare occasion that I bust wax and sell a few cards on eBay,
if I get what I feel is a reasonable offer, I sell the card. Anything that I've listed for sale on eBay,
I no longer own because I sold it for what I could get at the time. Simple as that.

 

[Card Magnet]

You offer low, they counter higher, you agree in the middle (or on their counter). Isn't that how you haggle? I thought so.

 

[muchuckwagon]

You offer low, they counter higher, you agree in the middle (or on their counter). Isn't that how you haggle? I thought so.

I thought that is how it worked....I could see if I offered $1 why he would be upset but $12 seems at least reasonable to everyone that voted.....but there is no haggling when you ban bidders.

 

[MojoDan]

My attitude for quite a while now has been, F the seller and move on.

There are literally dozens of cards that have been relisted every 30 days
since Feb. of 2008 that would be in my collection, if not for stubborn a$$ seller's
and their ridiculous prices. Obviously some people don't really care if they sell,
and you just have to move on to the next card.

...and then there's that school of thought... :lol:

sorry to hear about your misfortune in that arena chas...

Sorry, didn't mean to sound so militant about it :lol:

The thing is, I guess, on the rare occasion that I bust wax and sell a few cards on eBay,
if I get what I feel is a reasonable offer, I sell the card. Anything that I've listed for sale on eBay,
I no longer own because I sold it for what I could get at the time. Simple as that.

Was just crackin a joke bud - :lol:

To be honest, unless its a card with a very limited # of copies (about 10 or less), I just move on myself if its something I can live without. When it comes to cards that I know I will keep forever and pass down to my son, I wil pay whatever I can to secure it. Those types of cards are few and far between though...

 

[MojoDan]

I would have considered 12 to be reasonable, its a top end estimate...

 

[ChasHawk]

You offer low, they counter higher, you agree in the middle (or on their counter). Isn't that how you haggle? I thought so.

I thought that is how it worked....I could see if I offered $1 why he would be upset but $12 seems at least reasonable to everyone that voted.....but there is no haggling when you ban bidders.

There are too many sellers to list who have no interest in counter-offers whatsoever.

There was a card I was going after last year that had 47 declined offers.
I offered them $3 less than the BIN, and they declined it.

 

[UMich92]

Seller probably overpaid for the card during a hot stretch. You're offer was very fair.

Alex

 

[BunchOBull]

Seller probably overpaid for the card during a hot stretch. You're offer was very fair.

Alex

Then there are sellers like me. I've never listed anything on eBay that I've absolutely had to sell. If I can't get what I want for it, I'd rather hold it in my collection or give it away. The overhead on holding a card is virtually nothing and I don't spend money on cards that I don't have readily available. Granted, I don't price my items outrageously, but I certainly don't list to miss out any dollar that can be potentially made. It's a balancing act. In return I give excellent service, great packaging, rapid shipment, and a no questions asked return policy if the item is returned as received.

 

[leatherman]

Then there are sellers like me. I've never listed anything on eBay that I've absolutely had to sell. If I can't get what I want for it, I'd rather hold it in my collection or give it away. The overhead on holding a card is virtually nothing and I don't spend money on cards that I don't have readily available. Granted, I don't price my items outrageously, but I certainly don't list to miss out any dollar that can be potentially made. It's a balancing act. In return I give excellent service, great packaging, rapid shipment, and a no questions asked return policy if the item is returned as received.

That's well and good to wait for a price to sell.

Rob's problem with the seller, and the reason for this thread, was that he made a fair offer (more than fair, in my opinion...more on that in a sec) and the seller responded by saying that he was lowballing and then blocked him from future bidding. Rob has bought countless cards from me over the years, and he is always looking for a good buy, and usually gets them. He's not looking to steal cards, but he does like a good bargain (who doesn't). In fact, Rob is probably one of the best bidders in terms of BGS slabs that are NOT 9.5s...no way would it ever be prudent to block a buyer like him.

A BGS 9 on a modern card typically sells less than a raw card, so his offer of $12 on a card that hasn't closed less than $11 in the past 2 weeks in raw condition is a GREAT offer. I would have broken my finger clicking ACCEPT OFFER had I gotten an offer like that on a BGS 9. My guess is that the seller has a lot more sunk into the card (like grading fees) and doesn't want to lose money. You can't make money on every card...you have to be willing to take a loss on occasion.


David

 

[jet0002]

Then there are sellers like me. I've never listed anything on eBay that I've absolutely had to sell. If I can't get what I want for it, I'd rather hold it in my collection or give it away. The overhead on holding a card is virtually nothing and I don't spend money on cards that I don't have readily available. Granted, I don't price my items outrageously, but I certainly don't list to miss out any dollar that can be potentially made. It's a balancing act. In return I give excellent service, great packaging, rapid shipment, and a no questions asked return policy if the item is returned as received.

That's well and good to wait for a price to sell.

Rob's problem with the seller, and the reason for this thread, was that he made a fair offer (more than fair, in my opinion...more on that in a sec) and the seller responded by saying that he was lowballing and then blocked him from future bidding. Rob has bought countless cards from me over the years, and he is always looking for a good buy, and usually gets them. He's not looking to steal cards, but he does like a good bargain (who doesn't). In fact, Rob is probably one of the best bidders in terms of BGS slabs that are NOT 9.5s...no way would it ever be prudent to block a buyer like him.

A BGS 9 on a modern card typically sells less than a raw card, so his offer of $12 on a card that hasn't closed less than $11 in the past 2 weeks in raw condition is a GREAT offer. I would have broken my finger clicking ACCEPT OFFER had I gotten an offer like that on a BGS 9. My guess is that the seller has a lot more sunk into the card (like grading fees) and doesn't want to lose money. You can't make money on every card...you have to be willing to take a loss on occasion.


David

::facepalm:: I am the seller guys. The card in question is a Isaac Galloway Alfac Auto BGS 9. At the time I offered him 25 dlvd for it on May 12. On May 13 one raw sells for 19.50 + s/h. Since then the price has fallen with recent endings at 13.50, 12.50, 8.50, 8.38, and 13.50. I just got the card from the FCB submission and it has only been listed once for 7 days, and just a few days ago I relisted it for 19.99 BIN/BO. I never sent any message to Rob nor did I block him from my listings. Once I list it on ebay, I do not have an obligation to sell it. I do not have a problem with holding it if I don't sell it. I am a very easy to work with seller, and have no problems with buyers sending best offers.

 

[muchuckwagon]

::facepalm:: I am the seller guys.

Actually, you are not the seller and the card in question is not the Galloway autograph.....you did reject my best offer on another card but as you stated, never sent a smart-arse response. I have targeted 20 mid-tier prospects that I think have some real upside potential.

 

[Tomlinson21RB]

The only thing worse than ebay buyers is ebay sellers.

 

[notjomommasclint]

i voted more than fair. a 9 on a modern card does nothing to increase the value over raw copy. if he paid for grading or put to much into the thing thats not really the customers fault.