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1 Bryce Harper RF 18.3 WAS n/a 9 (A) 4 (C) High
2 Mike Trout CF 19.5 LAA A+ 8 (A-) 5 (B-) Moderate
3 Jesus Montero DH/C 21.2 NYY AAA 8 (A-) 4 (C+/C) Moderate
4 Dustin Ackley 2B 23.0 SEA AAA 6 (B) 4 (C+/C) Low
5 Eric Hosmer 1B 21.2 KC AA 7 (B+) 4 (C+/C) Moderate
6 Wil Myers RF 20.2 KC A+ 7 (B+) 4 (C+/C) Moderate
7 Brandon Belt 1B 22.8 SF AAA 7 (B+) 4 (C+/C) Moderate
8 Domonic Brown RF 23.4 PHI MLB 7 (B+) 3 (C-) Moderate
9 Shelby Miller RHP 20.3 STL A 8 (A-) 4 (C+/C) Moderate
10 Wilin Rosario C 22.0 COL AA 7 (B+) 1 (D) High
11 Jarrod Parker RHP 22.2 ARI AA 8 (A-) 1 (D) Very high
12 Freddie Freeman 1B 21.4 ATL MLB 6 (B) 4 (C+/C) Low
13 Jameson Taillon RHP 19.2 PIT n/a 8 (A-) 1 (D) Very high
14 Matt Moore LHP 21.6 TB A+ 7 (B+) 3 (C-) Moderate
15 Yonder Alonso 1B 23.8 CIN MLB 5 (B-) 4 (C+/C) Very low
16 Mike Moustakas 3B 22.4 KC AAA 6 (B) 3 (C-) Moderate
17 Desmond Jennings CF 24.3 TB MLB 5 (B-) 3 (C-) Low
18 Zach Britton LHP 23.1 BAL AAA 7 (B+) 1 (D) High
19 Jeremy Hellickson RHP 23.8 TB MLB 7 (B+) 1 (D) High
20 John Lamb LHP 20.6 KC AA 7 (B+) 3 (C-) Moderate
21 Randall Delgado RHP 21.0 ATL AA 6 (B) 3 (C-) Moderate
22 Julio Teheran RHP 20.0 ATL AA 7 (B+) 1 (D) High
23 Aroldis Chapman LHP 22.9 CIN MLB 8 (A-) 2 (D+) High
24 Devin Mesoraco C 22.6 CIN AAA 6 (B) 3 (D+) Moderate
25 Lonnie Chisenhall 3B 22.3 CLE AA 5 (B-) 3 (C-) Low
26 Jaff Decker LF 21.0 SD A+ 5 (B-) 3 (C-) Low
27 Manny Machado SS 18.6 BAL SS 7 (B+) 2 (D+) High
28 Jason Kipnis 2B 23.9 CLE AA 5 (B-) 3 (C-) Low
29 Jose Iglesias SS 21.1 BOS AA 5 (B-) 3 (C-) Low
30 Mike Minor LHP 23.1 ATL MLB 5 (B-) 2 (D+) Moderate
31 Martin Perez LHP 19.8 TEX AA 7 (B+) 1 (D) High
32 Nick Castellanos 3B 18.9 DET R 6 (B) 2 (D+) Moderate
33 Nick Weglarz LF 23.1 CLE AAA 5 (B-) 3 (C-) Low
34 Manny Banuelos LHP 19.9 NYY AA 6 (B) 1 (D) High
35 Kyle Drabek RHP 23.2 TOR MLB 6 (B) 1 (D) High
36 Casey Kelly RHP 21.3 SD AA 5 (B-) 2 (D+) Moderate
37 Jonathan Singleton 1B 19.4 PHI A 6 (B) 2 (D+) Moderate
38 Anthony Rizzo 1B 21.5 SD AA 6 (B) 2 (D+) Moderate
39 Jordan Lyles RHP 20.3 HOU AAA 5 (B-) 2 (D+) Moderate
40 Simon Castro RHP 22.8 SD AAA 6 (B) 1 (D) High
41 Travis d'Arnaud C 22.0 TOR A+ 5 (B-) 3 (C-) Low
42 Reese Havens 2B 24.3 NYM AA 6 (B) 2 (D+) Moderate
43 Aaron Hicks CF 21.4 MIN A 6 (B) 1 (D) High
44 Nick Franklin 2B 19.9 SEA AA 5 (B-) 2 (D+) Moderate
45 Zack Wheeler RHP 20.7 SF A 7 (B+) 1 (D) High
46 Alex White RHP 22.4 CLE AA 5 (B-) 2 (D+) Moderate
47 Zach Lee RHP 19.4 LAD n/a 7 (B+) 0 (D-) Very high
48 Matt Harvey RHP 21.9 NYM n/a 5 (B-) 2 (D+) Moderate
49 Tony Sanchez C 22.7 PIT A+ 4 (C+/C) 3 (C-) Very low
50 Derek Norris C 22.0 WAS A+ 5 (B-) 2 (D+) Moderate
51 Jurickson Profar SS 18.0 TEX SS 5 (B-) 2 (D+) Moderate
52 Adeiny Hechevarria SS 21.8 TOR AA 6 (B) 1 (D) High
53 Fernando Martinez RF 22.3 NYM MLB 5 (B-) 1 (D) Moderate
54 Mike Montgomery LHP 21.6 KC AA 5 (B-) 1 (D) Moderate
55 Jacob Turner RHP 19.7 DET A+ 6 (B) 1 (D) High
56 Michael Pineda RHP 22.1 SEA AAA 7 (B+) 0 (D-) Very high
57 Brent Morel 3B 23.8 CHW MLB 4 (C+/C) 2 (D+) Low
58 Yasmani Grandal C 22.3 CIN R 5 (B-) 2 (D+) Moderate
59 Brett Jackson CF 22.5 CHC AA 4 (C+/C) 3 (C-) Very low
60 Bobby Borchering 3B 20.3 ARI A 6 (B) 1 (D) High
61 Kyle Gibson RHP 23.3 MIN AAA 6 (B) 0 (D-) High
62 James Darnell 3B 24.1 SD AA 4 (C+/C) 3 (C-) Very low
63 Drew Cumberland SS 22.1 SD AA 5 (B-) 2 (D+) Moderate
64 Tyler Matzek LHP 20.3 COL A 7 (B+) 0 (D-) Very high
65 Alexi Amarista 2B 21.8 LAA AAA 4 (C+/C) 2 (D+) Low
66 Jean Segura 2B 20.9 LAA A 5 (B-) 1 (D) Moderate
67 Matt Dominguez 3B 21.4 FLA AA 4 (C+/C) 2 (D+) Low
68 Tanner Scheppers RHP 24.1 TEX AAA 5 (B-) 1 (D) Moderate
69 Josh Sale OF 19.6 TB n/a 6 (B) 1 (D) High
70 Brett Wallace 1B 24.5 HOU MLB 4 (C+/C) 2 (D+) Low
71 Tyler Skaggs LHP 19.6 ARI A 5 (B-) 2 (D+) Moderate
72 Jake Odorizzi RHP 20.9 KC A 5 (B-) 2 (D+) Moderate
73 Anthony Ranaudo RHP 21.4 BOS n/a 5 (B-) 1 (D) Moderate
74 Gary Sanchez C 19.0 NYY SS 6 (B) 1 (D) High
75 Hank Conger C 23.0 MLB AAA 4 (C+/C) 2 (D+) Low
76 Chris Sale LHP 21.9 CHW MLB 6 (B) 0 (D-) High
77 Danny Espinosa SS 23.8 WAS MLB 4 (C+/C) 2 (D+) Low
78 Dayan Viciedo 1B 21.9 CHW MLB 5 (B-) 1 (D) Moderate
79 Christian Colon SS 21.7 KC A+ 4 (C+/C) 2 (D+) Low
80 Josh Spence RHP 23.0 SD n/a 4 (C+/C) 2 (D+) Low
81 Craig Kimbrel RHP 22.7 ATL MLB 4 (C+/C) 1 (D) Moderate
82 Adrian Salcedo RHP 19.8 MIN A+ 6 (B) 0 (D-) High
83 Hector Gomez SS 20.3 COL AA 5 (B-) 0 (D-) High
84 Jenrry Mejia RHP 21.3 NYM MLB 4 (C+/C) 1 (D) Moderate
85 Hak-Ju Lee SS 20.9 TB A 4 (C+/C) 1 (D) Moderate
86 Austin Romine C 22.2 NYY AA 4 (C+/C) 2 (D+) Low
87 Chris Carter 1B 24.1 OAK MLB 4 (C+/C) 1 (D) Moderate
88 Sammy Solis LHP 22.5 WAS A 5 (B-) 0 (D-) High
89 Blake Tekotte CF 23.7 SD AA 4 (C+/C) 2 (D+) Low
90 Tyler Postornicky SS 21.2 ATL AA 4 (C+/C) 2 (D+) Low
91 Johnny Giavotella 2B 22.9 KC AA 4 (C+/C) 1 (D) Moderate
92 Tyler Chatwood RHP 21.1 LAA AAA 5 (B-) 1 (D) Moderate
93 Steve Lombardozzi 2B 22.4 WAS AA 4 (C+/C) 2 (D+) Low
94 Charlie Blackmon CF 24.6 COL AA 3 (C-) 2 (D+) Very low
95 Brad Emaus 3B 24.9 NYM AAA 3 (C-) 2 (D+) Very low
96 Yamaico Navarro 3B 23.3 BOS MLB 3 (C-) 2 (D+) Very low
97 David Adams 2B 23.7 NYY AA 3 (C-) 2 (D+) Very low
98 Anthony Gose CF 20.5 TOR A+ 4 (C+/C) 2 (D+) Low
99 Miguel Sano 3B 17.7 MIN R 5 (B-) 0 (D-) High
100 Drew Pomeranz LHP 22.2 CLE n/a 4 (C+/C) 0 (D-) Moderate
* Ages are as of 2/7/11
** Lvl is the highest the player has reached
*** We put a lot of value into floor as well as ceiling

Outcome Grade Value
Hall-of-Fame A+ 10
Superstar A 9
Annual all-star A- 8
All-star B+ 7
Well-above-average regular B 6
Slightly-above-average regular B- 5
Average regular C+/C 4
Below-average regular C- 3
Bench player or reliever D+ 2
Bench player or reliever (short career) D 1
Minor league depth or injury ruins career D-/F 0

http://projectprospect.com/article/2011 ... spect-list
 

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cgilmo said:
If you read Project Prospect like I do, nothing here is really a surprise.

Are you a fan of their list. I actually think Delgado has as much upside as Teheran and could be better IMO, he has a deadly Felix Hernandez type slider the Braves haven't let him use.
 

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Belt @ 7, Rosario @ 10, Alonso @ 15, Decker @ 26.

Ummmm.......

Montgomery @ 54, Turner @ 55, G. Sanchez @ 74, C. Sale @ 76, Sano @ 99.

Ummmmmmmmmmm........


(No, I'm not lighting incense.)
 

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mwashuc06 said:
cgilmo said:
If you read Project Prospect like I do, nothing here is really a surprise.

Are you a fan of their list. I actually think Delgado has as much upside as Teheran and could be better IMO, he has a deadly Felix Hernandez type slider the Braves haven't let him use.


I think you have to temper their rankings with their reason for the rankings. I don't think you can say holy crap Teheran is low without reading why they have him so low.
 

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cgilmo said:
mwashuc06 said:
cgilmo said:
If you read Project Prospect like I do, nothing here is really a surprise.

Are you a fan of their list. I actually think Delgado has as much upside as Teheran and could be better IMO, he has a deadly Felix Hernandez type slider the Braves haven't let him use.


I think you have to temper their rankings with their reason for the rankings. I don't think you can say holy crap Teheran is low without reading why they have him so low.

They think so many guys who have command problems are going to be in the bullpen, that's what I don't like about them. Young pitchers often have that and get better, look at Moore for example. I'm sure if they were around when Miguel Cabrera was putting up .704 OPS's when he was 18 that they said he would probably not be a regular as a ceiling.
 

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Also why the love for Fernando Martinez at 55. I've seen this guy play quite a bit and all I can say is his ceiling is David Dejesus with poor defense.
 

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LOL Turner that high and Castellanos THAT low?

This is THE worst list I've EVER seen.
 

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This is just speculation, but I believe Adam will defend his rankings by letting us know he's seen these players perform in person, which he has.

I don't think he's a professional scout, though.
 

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Jaypers said:
This is just speculation, but I believe Adam will defend his rankings by letting us know he's seen these players perform in person, which he has.

I don't think he's a professional scout, though.

He's a city planner. I have a source that is much better than he is.
 

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I personally like the Lists that PP put together. They don't "fall in love" with prospects like BA does and flat tell you how they feel about these players. They are no afraid to put a Gary Sanchez in the 70's and bump Wilin Rosario to #10.

I am interested to see 3 years from now, who's list was more accurate, BA or PP. I have an itching feeling, it might be PP.

skrip
 

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Man that's a pretty bad list, but like skrip said, who's to say this one won't be more accurate than BA's.

Just a few off the top of my head:

Too high-
7. Belt
10. Rosario
26. Decker
32. Castellanos
33. Weglarz
88. Blake Tekotte (Would be surprised to see this guy on a top 200 list. Career 4th OF)


Too low-
19. Hellickson
22. Teheran
54. Montgomery
55. Turner
56. Pineda
64. Matzek
73. Sanchez
75. Sale
86. Carter
98. Sano
99. Pomeranz
 

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I also think PP ranks on floor as much as ceiling. So, whereas BA ranks on highest ceiling, PP takes into account how likely a player is to ever reaching that ceiling. So, some toolsy players who are a ways away from reaching their ceiling will be much lower w PP. Just a different system of ranking. I'm pretty sure they had Mike Minor higher than most other systems last year.
 

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mwashuc06 said:
Jaypers said:
This is just speculation, but I believe Adam will defend his rankings by letting us know he's seen these players perform in person, which he has.

I don't think he's a professional scout, though.

He's a city planner. I have a source that is much better than he is.

Then make your own list.
 

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ballerskrip said:
I personally like the Lists that PP put together. They don't "fall in love" with prospects like BA does and flat tell you how they feel about these players. They are no afraid to put a Gary Sanchez in the 70's and bump Wilin Rosario to #10.

I am interested to see 3 years from now, who's list was more accurate, BA or PP. I have an itching feeling, it might be PP.

skrip

I actually agree with this. It seems that this is a different kind of list. I personally disagree with some of the rankings, but it's refreshing to see a list that gets away from the norm a little bit. Interesting to take floor into account as well as ceiling.

I made my own top 50 list based on performance and potential, but I think it would be fun to redo it taking different things into consideration. For example, a list of who I think will have ultimately been the best Major Leaguers when it's all said and done would be cool.
 

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Jaypers said:
Belt @ 7, Rosario @ 10, Alonso @ 15, Decker @ 26.

Ummmm.......

Montgomery @ 54, Turner @ 55, G. Sanchez @ 74, C. Sale @ 76, Sano @ 99.

Ummmmmmmmmmm........


(No, I'm not lighting incense.)

Care to lay out a little more of your reasoning here Jaypers?
 

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