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Steroid implications prevent him from going in on the first ballot.
I'm totally intrigued to see how this one pans out. Do the Hall voters only choose to keep power hitters (Bonds, McGwire) and power pitchers (Clemens) out of the Hall, or do they wise up and realize that one of the main benefits of steroids lies in shortening recovery time (catchers, pitchers).
I still think it's funny how, for the most part, the average person associates steroids with bulk and muscle, but if you look at the annual batch of Tour de France riders who pee positive, they are some of the thinnest guys in the world.
Steroid implications prevent him from going in on the first ballot.
I'm totally intrigued to see how this one pans out. Do the Hall voters only choose to keep power hitters (Bonds, McGwire) and power pitchers (Clemens) out of the Hall, or do they wise up and realize that one of the main benefits of steroids lies in shortening recovery time (catchers, pitchers).
I still think it's funny how, for the most part, the average person associates steroids with bulk and muscle, but if you look at the annual batch of Tour de France riders who pee positive, they are some of the thinnest guys in the world.
Rodriguez will not be making the Hall. Sorry to all his fans and proponents of PED abusers making the Hall. If Bagwell can't even get in with no real ties to PEDs, no way Rodriguez gets in when it was obvious to anyone he used.
I'm sorry...how is it obvious? Guilt by association isn't "obvious".
Rodriguez will not be making the Hall. Sorry to all his fans and proponents of PED abusers making the Hall. If Bagwell can't even get in with no real ties to PEDs, no way Rodriguez gets in when it was obvious to anyone he used.
It doesn't seem that IRod's level of offense rises to the same level as some of the others who have been (fairly or unfairly) implicated. I think IRod is a better/more important catcher than Bagwell was as a first-sacker though.
As I didn't follow him much, I have to ask: was Pudge ever hurt that much. Your point it totally valid, but does it apply to him? I remember Piazza being hurt more, so that spectre might be there, but Pudge just seemed durable and that was his true "super-power".
Would it be fair to say that Pudge was a better catcher than everyone else at his position, thus elevating him to a "stand-out" and a HoF'er? Steriods or no, I would think that his abilities that were probably not enhanced (assuming HE was), like defense, championship and leadership, would put him in anyway.
I guess my point is: if you don't put Pudge in, you're not going to put a catcher in the Hall for another decade, the fact of which would proabably influence voters.
Using steroids is using steroids. It doesn't matter that he didn't hit 600 HRs. He got an MVP Award because of his PED abuse. He would have been a HOFer had he not abused steroids, but that's the path he chose and will now probably not make the Hall because of it. I don't feel bad for him or any player left out due to PEDs. They aren't victims.