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elmalo said:
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All you have to do is look at the guy in a baseball uniform.

Thats easily the gayest thing you've said, and thats a real accomplishment.
The fact that he is a bodybuilder in a baseball uniform?

The fact that you are obsessed with the guy's body.

Regardless, Pujols has the most rigorous weightlifting routine in the majors. It was in Men's Health magazine a couple of years ago and has since been used by several D1 Colleges for their baseball AND football programs.
Yes, rigorous as in almost impossible to do without steroids.

Really? You clearly are not an athlete and/or have never been a serious competitor for a sport.

There are PLENTY of athletes in the world that have rigorous training programs and they aren't on PED's.

In fact, that would mean that every single MMA fighter, Olympic Apline Skier, NFL football player, and power lifter is on steroids...right?
 

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I'm with elmalo on this one. I am not anti-Pujols or anything, I just find it all hard to believe that's all.

Watch the documentary: Bigger, Faster, Stronger.
 

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jcmint said:
Guys if that list was ever released so many of our so called heroes would be on it. There is a reason why its not in the public. Would ANYONE be surprised if Pujols was indeed on them at any point.
My point exactly. Does anyone remember how much people defended ARod when those rumors came out. Or how everyone said, after Bonds broke the record, oh dont worry bc ARod will break it and he is clean. Now the same things are said about Pujols. And look at the guy.
 

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NECpilgrims8 said:
elmalo said:
GarkoCollector said:
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[quote="elmalo":61mtthya]All you have to do is look at the guy in a baseball uniform.

Thats easily the gayest thing you've said, and thats a real accomplishment.
The fact that he is a bodybuilder in a baseball uniform?

The fact that you are obsessed with the guy's body.

Regardless, Pujols has the most rigorous weightlifting routine in the majors. It was in Men's Health magazine a couple of years ago and has since been used by several D1 Colleges for their baseball AND football programs.
Yes, rigorous as in almost impossible to do without steroids.

Really? You clearly are not an athlete and/or have never been a serious competitor for a sport.

There are PLENTY of athletes in the world that have rigorous training programs and they aren't on PED's.

In fact, that would mean that every single MMA fighter, Olympic Apline Skier, NFL football player, and power lifter is on steroids...right?[/quote:61mtthya]
I hate to break this too you, but the NFL would not exist without steroids and neither would powerlifting. MMA guys train differently.
 

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We live in a country where we have the values of "Innocent until proven guilty, beyond a reasonable doubt of the evidence".....





.....unless it pertains to the law, sports, or the constitution.




Sad.
 

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I am not anti Pujols either. He is a great player, and seems like a good guy. I have no problem with him taking anything. I just think it is silly to think he isnt on anything.
 

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elmalo said:
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In my mind there is not even a doubt.

Brought to you by the Albert Belle for the Hall of Fame Committe of One.
 

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Like it or not, one real legacy of the Steroid Era: every major future accomplishment and HOF-caliber player will be held with some degree of suspicion. It makes it easier to 'hate' on the guys who took steroids, they helped taint the future.
 

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NECpilgrims8 said:
We live in a country where we have the values of "Innocent until proven guilty, beyond a reasonable doubt of the evidence".....





.....unless it pertains to the law, sports, or the constitution.




Sad.

Adam he has some valid points though read the new espn the magazine great article about the hgh and how hard it is to detect. Estimated 50-60% of the players. It is easily believable.
 

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jcmint said:
Guys if that list was ever released so many of our so called heroes would be on it. There is a reason why its not in the public. Would ANYONE be surprised if Pujols was indeed on them at any point.

There's not one player I would be shocked to find used steroids, but that doesn't mean I think every player did them.
 

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Our civil system of justice doesn't work this way though!

NECpilgrims8 said:
We live in a country where we have the values of "Innocent until proven guilty, beyond a reasonable doubt of the evidence".....





.....unless it pertains to the law, sports, or the constitution.




Sad.
 

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The question has certainly and can certainly be raised. It's a valid question that has to be asked of every slugger. But the OP's reason for asking it is invalid for so many reasons.

You can't look at a guys physical appearance and assume roids, because so many people do it without them.
 

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Codasco07 said:
jcmint said:
Guys if that list was ever released so many of our so called heroes would be on it. There is a reason why its not in the public. Would ANYONE be surprised if Pujols was indeed on them at any point.

There's not one player I would be shocked to find used steroids, but that doesn't mean I think every player did them.


There's NO way Cal Ripken Jr is NOT on that list
 

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I've never understood what was so remarkable about that picture of Pujols, other than the fact he's flexing his tris.

I've known guys with 26 inch biceps that were completely clean...I mean, not even bs creatine.
 

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I've never understood what was so remarkable about that picture of Pujols, other than the fact he's flexing his tris.

I've known guys with 26 inch biceps that were completely clean...I mean, not even bs creatine.


I knew a Staff Sargent when I was in the Marines that would go to the "Clean" Body Building competitions. He preached healthy living and bodybuilding. He got sent to the Persian Gulf and I took over his job and his desk. The top left desk drawer would not open. Finaly I got fed up one day and decided I was going to figure out why if I had to use a crowbar. I found that he had drilled a hole under the desk and inserted a screw so that the drawer could not be opened without removing the screw. I got into the drawer and there were syringes and empty steroid bottles. Moral of the story... even some of the supposed clean guys are hypocrate steroid users. I have more similar stories than time to type them here. I hope every one of your friends with 26 inch biceps are 100% clean but my life experience (Military, Softball, Football, Gym Rat) tells me otherwise.
 

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