Randy Johnson retiring

[200lbhockeyplayer]

I am very curious to see the voting totals for his election, because I can't fathom a non-vote reason for him. I'm biased, and I can find non-vote reasons for many other guys (mostly forced reasons accounting for some of the clown votes over the years), but not Johnson.

I think people will be surprised at how high his percentage is, especially when they start thumbing through his stats and career.

 

[cowboysrule48]

I am very curious to see the voting totals for his election, because I can't fathom a non-vote reason for him. I'm biased, and I can find non-vote reasons for many other guys (mostly forced reasons accounting for some of the clown votes over the years), but not Johnson.

I think people will be surprised at how high his percentage is, especially when they start thumbing through his stats and career.

There will always be a few assclown writers who want to make a statement.

 

[Sean_C]

Sadly, the only statment the writers make by doing so is that they are out of touch with the sport they are covering and should be replaced.

I am very curious to see the voting totals for his election, because I can't fathom a non-vote reason for him. I'm biased, and I can find non-vote reasons for many other guys (mostly forced reasons accounting for some of the clown votes over the years), but not Johnson.

I think people will be surprised at how high his percentage is, especially when they start thumbing through his stats and career.

There will always be a few assclown writers who want to make a statement.

 

[Sly]

I don't think there is really any question as to which team he will go in as a member of. It has to be the Diamondbacks.

You'd have to be in Seattle to understand how much he meant to the team here.

Stats alone, yes it's a D-Back...but he came into his own in Seattle and really became the pitcher that he was here.

 

[cowboysrule48]

Sadly, the only statment the writers make by doing so is that they are out of touch with the sport they are covering and should be replaced.

I am very curious to see the voting totals for his election, because I can't fathom a non-vote reason for him. I'm biased, and I can find non-vote reasons for many other guys (mostly forced reasons accounting for some of the clown votes over the years), but not Johnson.

I think people will be surprised at how high his percentage is, especially when they start thumbing through his stats and career.

There will always be a few assclown writers who want to make a statement.

Oh I know, it's too bad the writers don't realize that though.

 

[zach]

I am very curious to see the voting totals for his election, because I can't fathom a non-vote reason for him. I'm biased, and I can find non-vote reasons for many other guys (mostly forced reasons accounting for some of the clown votes over the years), but not Johnson.

I think people will be surprised at how high his percentage is, especially when they start thumbing through his stats and career.

The only thing I can think of is that a select few may not vote for him because he wasn't "press-friendly".

 

[bodiaz]

Truly one of the most dominant pitchers of all time. top 5 LHP of alltime. My top 5 LHP list is this:

Steve Carlton
Lefty Grove
Randy Johnson
Warren Spahn
Sandy Koufax



Sandy would obviously be higher if he had pitched longer. Hopefully the fact that Randy was a steroid guy won't hold him back from getting votes. He doesn't seem to get much heat on it like others though.

 

[200lbhockeyplayer]

Truly one of the most dominant pitchers of all time. top 5 LHP of alltime. My top 5 LHP list is this:

Steve Carlton
Lefty Grove
Randy Johnson
Warren Spahn
Sandy Koufax



Sandy would obviously be higher if he had pitched longer. Hopefully the fact that Randy was a steroid guy won't hold him back from getting votes. He doesn't seem to get much heat on it like others though.

Interesting, I never saw a single assumption, report, indication in regards to steroid use from Johnson.

An ever so subtle (yet common) stirring of the pot?

 

[bodiaz]

Randy, Schilling, Finley, and Luis Gonzalez were all using. Randy admitted he took stuff that he did not know what it was, and probably would have made him test positive if testing was in place early in his career. The D Back title team was loaded with users. I am not knocking him, I stand by my list.

 

[200lbhockeyplayer]

Randy, Schilling, Finley, and Luis Gonzalez were all using. Randy admitted he took stuff that he did not know what it was, and probably would have made him test positive if testing was in place early in his career. The D Back title team was loaded with users. I am not knocking him, I stand by my list.

Well, as you appear to be the only person with first-hand knowledge with this, and his name never once came up in any discussion...I'll stand by credible writers.

You're an interesting guy, perhaps we should create an icon for you, "Firestarter."

 

[henderson939]

Randy, Schilling, Finley, and Luis Gonzalez were all using. Randy admitted he took stuff that he did not know what it was, and probably would have made him test positive if testing was in place early in his career. The D Back title team was loaded with users. I am not knocking him, I stand by my list.

Well, as you appear to be the only person with first-hand knowledge with this, and his name never once came up in any discussion...I'll stand by credible writers.

You're an interesting guy, perhaps we should create an icon for you, "Firestarter."

This guy apparently knows everything about everybody in MLB. Why dont you post a list of all the steroid users, since you have all this first hand knowledge.

 

[200lbhockeyplayer]

Randy, Schilling, Finley, and Luis Gonzalez were all using. Randy admitted he took stuff that he did not know what it was, and probably would have made him test positive if testing was in place early in his career. The D Back title team was loaded with users. I am not knocking him, I stand by my list.

Well, as you appear to be the only person with first-hand knowledge with this, and his name never once came up in any discussion...I'll stand by credible writers.

You're an interesting guy, perhaps we should create an icon for you, "Firestarter."

This guy apparently knows everything about everybody in MLB. Why dont you post a list of all the steroid users, since you have all this first hand knowledge.

I assumed that he's referring to an SI interview with Randy Johnson stating that he took supplements from places like GNC (like virtually all athletes) that could have tested positive under testing today and then conveying it as fact that Johnson took steroids.

 

[hofautos]

Randy, Schilling, Finley, and Luis Gonzalez were all using. Randy admitted he took stuff that he did not know what it was, and probably would have made him test positive if testing was in place early in his career. The D Back title team was loaded with users. I am not knocking him, I stand by my list.

He also said he never did steroids...but I guess you are God. ::facepalm::
Here is the story you speak of.

Johnson says that in those years he hired a professor from Canada to educate him on nutrition and training. He says that he used a hyperbaric chamber to improve recovery time and "dabbled in all kinds of powders and tried to put weight on." When asked what would have stopped him from using steroids at a time when baseball did not specifically ban them, Johnson pauses, then says, "Because I wasn't searching for anything other than to have the ability to throw the ball over the plate. You can do your homework. I've always thrown as hard as anybody in the game. There's no denying that. I've [also] always been skinny. I'm not denying that I went to GNC and all that stuff. I took a lot of different things that, you know, maybe at that time, maybe early enough, if I would have been tested, who knows? I could have been taking stuff had they tested me back then. Maybe I would have tested [positive for a banned supplement]. I don't know."

Johnson is asked if he could assure his fans that his achievements have been legitimate, because even clean players can be wrongly suspected. "You've got to [ask] what you've got to [ask], I guess," Johnson says, before adding, "How long have we been doing drug tests now?"

Told testing began with anonymous survey tests in 2003, he replies, "Okay, what's that? Six years now? I'm 45 ... 39 to the present and I've passed every test and I've still had some pretty good years."

 

[bodiaz]

It would be quicker to give a list of players who did not use. BTW, if you knew how many NFL players are using now it would blow you away!

 

[200lbhockeyplayer]

It would be quicker to give a list of players who did not use. BTW, if you knew how many NFL players are using now it would blow you away!

Professor X, is that you?

 

[hofautos]

Johnson's extraordinary four-year run occurred in the last four seasons before baseball began testing for steroids. Johnson never has been tied directly to performance-enhancing drugs. Convicted steroids dealer Kirk Radomski, however, wrote in his book Bases Loaded that investigators for the '07 Mitchell Report asked him if he knew about steroid use by Johnson and Radomski wrote that he had no knowledge of steroids by him.

 

[WoundedDuck]

When I got back into collecting a few years ago, I thought about player collecting one of my favorites who played in the 90s so I could go after some of the cool card stuff from that era. Randy Johnson would have been that guy had I begun that project. Absolutely amazing pitcher who hasn't had as much hobby love as many compared with the numbers he's put up.

 

[hofautos]

^^He absolutely worked his butt off to get those numbers. Definitely worthy of the greatest respect!

 

[HPC]

^^He absolutely worked his butt off to get those numbers. Definitely worthy of the greatest respect!

Randy is arguably the most dominant pitcher of the last 20 years--along with Greg Maddux and Clemens.

Randy has never been media friendly, and this might hurt him in the HOF voting somewhat, but very little I would assume.

If anyone caught the ESPNews interview yesterday, he came out and said he acted like a dick on purpose because it was an "intangible" that would intimidate players before the game. He said when he was younger, Tony LaRussa would yell at him from the dugout what he played the A's, and it would bother him. He learned from that, and how to use his demeanor to his advantage.

Randy acknowledged that he knew he was a dick to the media and it might hurt him in the HOF voting.

When he was on the phone, he was actually a pretty cool guy...alot different than the other interviews he's done.

Randy is definitely top 5 lefties of all time, and (IMO as a Dback fan) top 5 of all time.

Randy defined baseball in Arizona, and MLB for many years!

See you at Cooperstown!

 

[sportscardtheory]

Truly one of the most dominant pitchers of all time. top 5 LHP of alltime. My top 5 LHP list is this:

Steve Carlton
Lefty Grove
Randy Johnson
Warren Spahn
Sandy Koufax



Sandy would obviously be higher if he had pitched longer. Hopefully the fact that Randy was a steroid guy won't hold him back from getting votes. He doesn't seem to get much heat on it like others though.

Interesting, I never saw a single assumption, report, indication in regards to steroid use from Johnson.

An ever so subtle (yet common) stirring of the pot?

To be fair, I have seen you point the finger at many players who have no steroid ties. But now that it's happened to a player YOU admire...