report this ebay seller and member here for shill bidding

[cgilmo]

Judge mutch?


If you have a problem with me just lay it out there.

I don't see anywhere that I "judged" you; what I wrote was a pretty spot on summary of what happened at the end of the thread.

As to whether I have a problem with you personally; absolutely not. The way that topic was handled, however, didn't sit well with a fair amount of members. I understand the feeling of wanting to protect one of your own, but it shouldn't be at the expense of the truth. It isn't right, and people are going to notice it, but it is understandable.

For the most part I think you do a good job of maintaining peace and are very fair in most circumstances. Besides some uneducated comments on the topic of authenticators/authenticating of autographs, there's not anything really bad to say about you personally, or the job you do. I don't post too often, but FCB is my favorite board and the one I check first.

But then again, who am I anyways.

There was MUCH less evidence against Rob. That coupled with past service to FCB and stand up dealings that I have had with him personally made me want to give him the benefit of the doubt. He wasn't nailed to the ground like the games best was. Plus in the case of Rob, it wasn't a case where there was active shilling, because it all happened in the last with no current activity.

 

[hofmichael]

Judge mutch?


If you have a problem with me just lay it out there.

I don't see anywhere that I "judged" you; what I wrote was a pretty spot on summary of what happened at the end of the thread.

As to whether I have a problem with you personally; absolutely not. The way that topic was handled, however, didn't sit well with a fair amount of members. I understand the feeling of wanting to protect one of your own, but it shouldn't be at the expense of the truth. It isn't right, and people are going to notice it, but it is understandable.

For the most part I think you do a good job of maintaining peace and are very fair in most circumstances. Besides some uneducated comments on the topic of authenticators/authenticating of autographs, there's not anything really bad to say about you personally, or the job you do. I don't post too often, but FCB is my favorite board and the one I check first.

But then again, who am I anyways.

There was MUCH less evidence against Rob. That coupled with past service to FCB and stand up dealings that I have had with him personally made me want to give him the benefit of the doubt. He wasn't nailed to the ground like the games best was. Plus in the case of Rob, it wasn't a case where there was active shilling, because it all happened in the last with no current activity.

No offense Chris but that is what you should have said in the first place.I respect that much more than the old theres nothing to see here move along routine that happened in that thread.
Mike

 

[Mark McGwire Museum]

There was MUCH less evidence against Rob. That coupled with past service to FCB and stand up dealings that I have had with him personally made me want to give him the benefit of the doubt. He wasn't nailed to the ground like the games best was. Plus in the case of Rob, it wasn't a case where there was active shilling, because it all happened in the last with no current activity.

There was PLENTY of evidence on Rob. Concrete, in fact. It was about as simple as it gets. I understand you giving him the benefit of the doubt before you personally made up your mind, but that's not what the main concern is. It was muzzling the accuser, and then locking the thread to protect Rob.
I don't see how him being a moderator, or the fact he has had prior good deals with other people prior mean he can't be a shillbidder. There is no correlation between the two actions. It's not like you can't be one and not the other. As if the evidence wasn't clear enough anyways, Rob's own excuse nailed him even more, since none of it made any sense anyways; it was all lies.
Saying it is "in the past" is pretty weak. As Simba said to Rafiki when he said the same thing, "Yes, but it still hurts." Of course it was in the past. That's what the issue was. That he had previously shilled. If the accusation was that he was shillbidding, and not a shill bidder, I guess you would be correct on a technicality.

Either way, I've said my peace, and now am off to my nieces birthday party.

 

[All The Hype]

I still think it's funny that you paid $3200 for the Heathcott Super.

Best post in this entire thread, and that's saying something. I thought it was hilarious when I heard this too.


And in regard to the guy this thread is about, what a *******.

 

[hofmichael]

There was MUCH less evidence against Rob. That coupled with past service to FCB and stand up dealings that I have had with him personally made me want to give him the benefit of the doubt. He wasn't nailed to the ground like the games best was. Plus in the case of Rob, it wasn't a case where there was active shilling, because it all happened in the last with no current activity.

There was PLENTY of evidence on Rob. Concrete, in fact. It was about as simple as it gets. I understand you giving him the benefit of the doubt before you personally made up your mind, but that's not what the main concern is. It was muzzling the accuser, and then locking the thread to protect Rob.
I don't see how him being a moderator, or the fact he has had prior good deals with other people prior mean he can't be a shillbidder. There is no correlation between the two actions. It's not like you can't be one and not the other. As if the evidence wasn't clear enough anyways, Rob's own excuse nailed him even more, since none of it made any sense anyways; it was all lies.
Saying it is "in the past" is pretty weak. As Simba said to Rafiki when he said the same thing, "Yes, but it still hurts." Of course it was in the past. That's what the issue was. That he had previously shilled. If the accusation was that he was shillbidding, and not a shill bidder, I guess you would be correct on a technicality.

Either way, I've said my peace, and now am off to my nieces birthday party.

Thanked for possibly being the first person on FCB to use a quote from the Lion King.

 

[Watt]

There was MUCH less evidence against Rob. That coupled with past service to FCB and stand up dealings that I have had with him personally made me want to give him the benefit of the doubt. He wasn't nailed to the ground like the games best was. Plus in the case of Rob, it wasn't a case where there was active shilling, because it all happened in the last with no current activity.

There was PLENTY of evidence on Rob. Concrete, in fact. It was about as simple as it gets. I understand you giving him the benefit of the doubt before you personally made up your mind, but that's not what the main concern is. It was muzzling the accuser, and then locking the thread to protect Rob.
I don't see how him being a moderator, or the fact he has had prior good deals with other people prior mean he can't be a shillbidder. There is no correlation between the two actions. It's not like you can't be one and not the other. As if the evidence wasn't clear enough anyways, Rob's own excuse nailed him even more, since none of it made any sense anyways; it was all lies.
Saying it is "in the past" is pretty weak. As Simba said to Rafiki when he said the same thing, "Yes, but it still hurts." Of course it was in the past. That's what the issue was. That he had previously shilled. If the accusation was that he was shillbidding, and not a shill bidder, I guess you would be correct on a technicality.

Either way, I've said my peace, and now am off to my nieces birthday party.

Well, I missed that thread and saga when it happened so I just read all of the thread today and I have to agree with this. If a thread like this one can stay open for 13 pages, that one should have stayed open especially since it involved at the time a mod here, which I believe is more serious than just a random member shilling. But that's in the past now I guess....

 

[cgilmo]

There was MUCH less evidence against Rob. That coupled with past service to FCB and stand up dealings that I have had with him personally made me want to give him the benefit of the doubt. He wasn't nailed to the ground like the games best was. Plus in the case of Rob, it wasn't a case where there was active shilling, because it all happened in the last with no current activity.

There was PLENTY of evidence on Rob. Concrete, in fact. It was about as simple as it gets. I understand you giving him the benefit of the doubt before you personally made up your mind, but that's not what the main concern is. It was muzzling the accuser, and then locking the thread to protect Rob.
I don't see how him being a moderator, or the fact he has had prior good deals with other people prior mean he can't be a shillbidder. There is no correlation between the two actions. It's not like you can't be one and not the other. As if the evidence wasn't clear enough anyways, Rob's own excuse nailed him even more, since none of it made any sense anyways; it was all lies.
Saying it is "in the past" is pretty weak. As Simba said to Rafiki when he said the same thing, "Yes, but it still hurts." Of course it was in the past. That's what the issue was. That he had previously shilled. If the accusation was that he was shillbidding, and not a shill bidder, I guess you would be correct on a technicality.

Either way, I've said my peace, and now am off to my nieces birthday party.

Well, I missed that thread and saga when it happened so I just read all of the thread today and I have to agree with this. If a thread like this one can stay open for 13 pages, that one should have stayed open especially since it involved at the time a mod here, which I believe is more serious than just a random member shilling. But that's in the past now I guess....

He was removed as a mod because of a combination of the accusations and inactivity.

 

[mudflap02]

This was right around the time miguelcabrera and J.O. were made chat mods, correct?

 

[cgilmo]

This was right around the time miguelcabrera and J.O. were made chat mods, correct?

that never happened

 

[mudflap02]

This was right around the time miguelcabrera and J.O. were made chat mods, correct?

that never happened

You mean to tell me that the chat room is completely unregulated?







I kid, I kid. One of them posted something once about wanting to be a chat mod and the concept of such a position fascinated me, like looking into two mirrors facing each other. The fact that someone was a little slighted that they hadn't been appointed Lord of the Chats was just one of the little things that makes FCB one of my favorite parts of the hobby.

 

[bportjoey]

pigskincardboard - Wouldn't you not call the cops on your neighbor smoking a doobie on his porch because it is LEGAL to smoke weed in your country?

I love how smoking pot on your deck is somehow on par with basically stealing. I can say for sure if my neighbor is smoking pot on his deck I wouldn't call the cops. But if he was walking around the neighborhood stealing stuff while smoking pot I would.

If i saw my neighbor smoking pot i would definatly run over there and ask for a hit

 

[cgilmo]

looks like we are done here