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Welldone!
Congrats on a beauty of a card.
IMO the red crusade and the Donruss preview auto are the most sought after Ripken cards for Ripken fanatics.
 

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bigalbert said:
Welldone!
Congrats on a beauty of a card.
IMO the red crusade and the Donruss preview auto are the most sought after Ripken cards for Ripken fanatics.
And Big Al is the MAN amongst boys!!
So envious my man. 8-)
 

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Sorry to bump an old topic, but why are these 1998 Donruss Crusade's so expensive? It seems there are tons of /25 /5 or even /1 cards on the market, so how is value determined? This card isn't even autographed or graded, just a very low print run.

I'm just trying to get a grasp on how things work nowadays. I've been out of the collecting scene for 10+ years and might get back into it a bit.
 

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jonebone said:
Sorry to bump an old topic, but why are these 1998 Donruss Crusade's so expensive? It seems there are tons of /25 /5 or even /1 cards on the market, so how is value determined? This card isn't even autographed or graded, just a very low print run.

I'm just trying to get a grasp on how things work nowadays. I've been out of the collecting scene for 10+ years and might get back into it a bit.

Supply < Demand

The Crusade cards were randomly inserted over a series of different DLP products during a time when a far greater number of cards were produced. I won't go in depth on the Crusade cards, there's plenty of information out there already, but suffice to say these are some of the most beautiful cards ever produced which were nearly impossible to pull from packs back in the day because of the larger production numbers. They continue to be high in demand
 

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jonebone said:
Sorry to bump an old topic, but why are these 1998 Donruss Crusade's so expensive? It seems there are tons of /25 /5 or even /1 cards on the market, so how is value determined? This card isn't even autographed or graded, just a very low print run.

I'm just trying to get a grasp on how things work nowadays. I've been out of the collecting scene for 10+ years and might get back into it a bit.


1998 was a long time ago. /25 meant something in 1998.

DLP made sure in the years after 1998 that /25 meant nothing, and even destroyed 1/1's
 

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Brewer Andy said:
jonebone said:
Sorry to bump an old topic, but why are these 1998 Donruss Crusade's so expensive? It seems there are tons of /25 /5 or even /1 cards on the market, so how is value determined? This card isn't even autographed or graded, just a very low print run.

I'm just trying to get a grasp on how things work nowadays. I've been out of the collecting scene for 10+ years and might get back into it a bit.

Supply < Demand

The Crusade cards were randomly inserted over a series of different DLP products during a time when a far greater number of cards were produced. I won't go in depth on the Crusade cards, there's plenty of information out there already, but suffice to say these are some of the most beautiful cards ever produced which were nearly impossible to pull from packs back in the day because of the larger production numbers. They continue to be high in demand

This pretty well sums it up. The crusades were inserted in multiple brands across the company line. You had the green out of 250, purple out of 100 and red out of 25. It is on the must list among player collectors and the card does look amazing in person. Many consider owning the red crusade as the dividing line among collectors and super collectors.
 

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RITM said:
Brewer Andy said:
jonebone said:
Sorry to bump an old topic, but why are these 1998 Donruss Crusade's so expensive? It seems there are tons of /25 /5 or even /1 cards on the market, so how is value determined? This card isn't even autographed or graded, just a very low print run.

I'm just trying to get a grasp on how things work nowadays. I've been out of the collecting scene for 10+ years and might get back into it a bit.

Supply < Demand

The Crusade cards were randomly inserted over a series of different DLP products during a time when a far greater number of cards were produced. I won't go in depth on the Crusade cards, there's plenty of information out there already, but suffice to say these are some of the most beautiful cards ever produced which were nearly impossible to pull from packs back in the day because of the larger production numbers. They continue to be high in demand

This pretty well sums it up. The crusades were inserted in multiple brands across the company line. You had the green out of 250, purple out of 100 and red out of 25. It is on the must list among player collectors and the card does look amazing in person. Many consider owning the red crusade as the dividing line among collectors and super collectors.



I like the super raves better, but crusades are for sure in my top 5 for 90s inserts.
 

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miguelcabrera said:
RITM said:
Brewer Andy said:
jonebone said:
Sorry to bump an old topic, but why are these 1998 Donruss Crusade's so expensive? It seems there are tons of /25 /5 or even /1 cards on the market, so how is value determined? This card isn't even autographed or graded, just a very low print run.

I'm just trying to get a grasp on how things work nowadays. I've been out of the collecting scene for 10+ years and might get back into it a bit.

Supply < Demand

The Crusade cards were randomly inserted over a series of different DLP products during a time when a far greater number of cards were produced. I won't go in depth on the Crusade cards, there's plenty of information out there already, but suffice to say these are some of the most beautiful cards ever produced which were nearly impossible to pull from packs back in the day because of the larger production numbers. They continue to be high in demand

This pretty well sums it up. The crusades were inserted in multiple brands across the company line. You had the green out of 250, purple out of 100 and red out of 25. It is on the must list among player collectors and the card does look amazing in person. Many consider owning the red crusade as the dividing line among collectors and super collectors.



I like the super raves better, but crusades are for sure in my top 5 for 90s inserts.

For my Manning collection the super rave is on that short list with the crusades. Maybe one of these days I'll grab one!
 

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Hmm... I guess I still don't understand the allure of these inserts, maybe I'll learn more as I get back into the scene. Were these the "original" /25? That could explain their collectibility.

I think I was out of the scene by 1998 anyway, because I don't remember these cards at all. The big inserts from my day were the 1993 Finest Refractors. Those might not be as rare (estimated 220ish per player), but packs were $30 back in the day and it was definitely an "adult" brand that kids couldn't afford. I think I might have gotten one or two packs back then, let alone enough for a box to be guaranteed a refractor (which could have easily been a common).

I can clearly see the demand behind those, because they were the first real insert cards that actually held value. Not to mention, all of us jealous kids that have now grown up and actually have the disposable income to buy them. And there were tons of kids collecting back in 1993.

So is there a correlation for this card? The "first /25" or something similar? Just wondering what makes this stick out as a line of demarcation between the boys and the men.
 

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only /25 reds of each player in the set, /250 greens, /100 purple super tough pulls for any colors pretty much
redcrusade.jpg
 

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jonebone said:
So is there a correlation for this card? The "first /25" or something similar? Just wondering what makes this stick out as a line of demarcation between the boys and the men.

I think the main thing that you're missing is the amount of set collectors who chase the Crusades.

so...

A - Arguably the nicest looking cards ever produced
B - Set collectors who chase all 3 colors (250,100,25) and bid up even Wilton Guerrero cards
C - Player collectors NEED to have them!

I really think the set aspect separates the Crusades from most other 90's inserts. There just aren't as many people chasing Legacy or Rave cards.
 

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I think you hit the nail on the head when you mentioned how the avid collectors of that time period have grown up now and now have disposable income. I am 18 and know there are a few sets put out recently that I covet and will be willing to shell out cash for once I have a salaried job and am making a fair amount of money.

In the 90's, these were THE cards to have from what I've heard (mainly due to the reasons you listed). Now, the demand is huge for them because many people have the means to buy it. However, supply is so low that the two factors create a four figure card. Hope this helps.
 

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It's because this was a separate set, not just a prettier version of the base card.

These really are magnificent in person.
 

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