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Its crazy here in Pasadena! We represented tonight. This goes out to all my fellow alumni and fans number 13 baby! We Are BACKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Good, now have em play Boise St. next week and show they deserved it.
 

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What a horribly boring title game for 3 quarters. I have a feeling that if Colt didn't get injured that Texas would have won that game. It just doesn't feel like Bama did anything to really win that game (minus the Richardson TD run).
 

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FLOUR said:
Good, now have em play Boise St. next week and show they deserved it.


...and then have em call 1-800-WHO-GIVES a ****
 

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Well when this is all over maybe Mack Brown will let his backup QB play some next year so he has a feel for the game instead of scoring 59 points vs Louisiana-Monroe, 69 points vs UTEP, and 51 points vs Kansas with McCoy not missing a down and maybe have a running game.

Alabama did what they had to do to win and Texas didn't do enough to win.

I dont think Alabama or its fans should have to feel sorry for themselves that McCoy got hurt. It could have just has easy been McElroy that got hurt.
 

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NOTE: I now live in Texas, but am in no way a Longhorn fan.

Some random thoughts...

The National Championship game was decided when Alabama beat Florida.

Texas was a very weak contender and really didn't beat anyone of note all year. The Big 12 has been very, very good in the past. (Last years trio of Oklahoma, Texas Tech and Texas could have been three of the top five schools in the nation.)

A lot of the locals are whining that "if Colt hadn't gotten hurt". If memory serves me correctly, the Red River Shootout was over when Oklahoma lost their star QB (Sam Bradford) early in the game.

I am still not sure what NIck Saban was thinking early in the first quarter.

I am equally unsure what Mack Brown was thinking as the first half came to a close.


Kudos to Alabama.
 

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Texas was a very weak contender and really didn't beat anyone of note all year. The Big 12 has been very, very good in the past. (Last years trio of Oklahoma, Texas Tech and Texas could have been three of the top five schools in the nation.)

Though I believe that the SEC is stronger overall than the Big XII, I disagree that Texas was a weak contender. This title game set up to be very closely matched and I was looking forward to a tight battle between TWO VERY GOOD teams.

The biggest play of the game (putting the Colt injury aside) was the shuttle pass INT for a TD at the end of the 2nd. If you take this freak play out and Gilbert still manages to toss two 2nd half TDs, Texas actually leads this game with 6:15 left in the 4th 21-17!!

This opens the door for many scenarios of course, mine being that the Longhorns play more conservative, pounding the rock trying to get 1st downs instead of looking downfield (when they were trailing) which lead to the Gilbert fumble deep in Longhorn territory.

I know everyone can look back and say what if, but that's my WHAT IF.

Bottom line for me was I was left very unsatisfied by this BCS title game, but congrats to Bama who in my mind escaped with a title this year. But thats how it goes in college football.
 

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The 3rd quarter was just Sabans way of doing things. Yes it looked boring but until texas showed any spark on offense we werent going to get risky. The whole game dynamics changed when Colt went out and it affected both teams. Bottom line is Texas still couldnt stop the run and we had the more physical defense. We beat FLorida, who is better than Texas in my opinion, like a drum. It is hard to have great games every time out especially considering the layoff, the atmosphere, our youth, and mostly Mcelroys inexperience. We beat Texas and Florida combined by 40 points id say we are the best. Ill take the win. Roll Tide Roll!
 

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I lived in Birmingham for 4 years. I bet things are rocking down there. Congrats to the Tide!
 

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Here's my what ifs? What if McElroy didn't have 2 cracked ribs? What if McClain didn't get a stomach bug? What if Hightower didn't go down early in the season.

Here is my [strike:1fg7lizp]homer[/strike:1fg7lizp] view on the McCoy injury: Football is a team game. It is also a very physical game. When playing a physical defense like Alabama, if all your eggs on offense are in McCoy's basket, you can't complain when he goes down. It's a TEAM game, so maybe Coach Brown should have prepared Gilbert more or constructed a more balanced team.
 

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Here's my what ifs? What if McElroy didn't have 2 cracked ribs? What if McClain didn't get a stomach bug? What if Hightower didn't go down early in the season.

Here is my [strike:2s0mykyw]homer[/strike:2s0mykyw] view on the McCoy injury: Football is a team game. It is also a very physical game. When playing a physical defense like Alabama, if all your eggs on offense are in McCoy's basket, you can't complain when he goes down. It's a TEAM game, so maybe Coach Brown should have prepared Gilbert more or constructed a more balanced team.

Thanks Coach for breaking that down for all of us::facepalm:: When your starting QB at a top 20 program goes down, it's going to be different team in regards to the playbook and the ability to make big plays. No team in the Top 20 would be the same team with a back-up QB. This about cost Iowa a BCS game when Stansi (Spellings?) went down......

You just can't prepare a back-up Froshman QB to be ready for a game of that magnitude..

(I'm not a fan of either team...but Ingram is a hell of a running back)
 

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minpin said:
Penno said:
Here's my what ifs? What if McElroy didn't have 2 cracked ribs? What if McClain didn't get a stomach bug? What if Hightower didn't go down early in the season.

Here is my [strike:3maj5fjd]homer[/strike:3maj5fjd] view on the McCoy injury: Football is a team game. It is also a very physical game. When playing a physical defense like Alabama, if all your eggs on offense are in McCoy's basket, you can't complain when he goes down. It's a TEAM game, so maybe Coach Brown should have prepared Gilbert more or constructed a more balanced team.

Thanks Coach for breaking that down for all of us::facepalm:: When your starting QB at a top 20 program goes down, it's going to be different team in regards to the playbook and the ability to make big plays. No team in the Top 20 would be the same team with a back-up QB. This about cost Iowa a BCS game when Stansi (Spellings?) went down......

You just can't prepare a back-up Froshman QB to be ready for a game of that magnitude..

(I'm not a fan of either team...but Ingram is a hell of a running back)

Look assclown, I'm just saying a team built on the passing attack around (mostly) 2 players is just asking for trouble. Seriously, what did I state that wasn't true? Maybe the kid should have got more reps during some of the blowouts or it wouldn't have killed the team to be a little more balanced.

I know you can't prepare a quarterback for a game like that. Just sit back for a second a think, if that's even possible for you. If McElroy goes out of the game, Bama wouldn't be completely screwed. Why? Because A.J. McCarron would have the run game to fall back upon. Sure, they're gonna make him air it out, but just having those playmakers there at RB is gonna take some pressure off the freshman.

This is something Texas didn't have the luxury of doing. Saban, for the most part, forced Gilbert to make plays. He made a few, but definitely not enough. He needed help, and that goes back to construction of the team.
 

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Penno said:
minpin said:
Penno said:
Here's my what ifs? What if McElroy didn't have 2 cracked ribs? What if McClain didn't get a stomach bug? What if Hightower didn't go down early in the season.

Here is my [strike:3dyo2zq8]homer[/strike:3dyo2zq8] view on the McCoy injury: Football is a team game. It is also a very physical game. When playing a physical defense like Alabama, if all your eggs on offense are in McCoy's basket, you can't complain when he goes down. It's a TEAM game, so maybe Coach Brown should have prepared Gilbert more or constructed a more balanced team.

Thanks Coach for breaking that down for all of us::facepalm:: When your starting QB at a top 20 program goes down, it's going to be different team in regards to the playbook and the ability to make big plays. No team in the Top 20 would be the same team with a back-up QB. This about cost Iowa a BCS game when Stansi (Spellings?) went down......

You just can't prepare a back-up Froshman QB to be ready for a game of that magnitude..

(I'm not a fan of either team...but Ingram is a hell of a running back)

Look assclown, I'm just saying a team built on the passing attack around (mostly) 2 players is just asking for trouble. Seriously, what did I state that wasn't true? Maybe the kid should have got more reps during some of the blowouts or it wouldn't have killed the team to be a little more balanced.

I know you can't prepare a quarterback for a game like that. Just sit back for a second a think, if that's even possible for you. If McElroy goes out of the game, Bama wouldn't be completely screwed. Why? Because A.J. McCarron would have the run game to fall back upon. Sure, they're gonna make him air it out, but just having those playmakers there at RB is gonna take some pressure off the freshman.

This is something Texas didn't have the luxury of doing. Saban, for the most part, forced Gilbert to make plays. He made a few, but definitely not enough. He needed help, and that goes back to construction of the team.


Ingram goes down...Bama loses.Same scenario.Or are you gonna say it isn't?Your QB had very little to do with the outcome of the game.Like I said...lets just all let it go.I think we can all pretty much figure it was over once Colt got hurt and I agree a lot of the blame goes to Mack Brown for his part in piss poor backup planning.Why even have a guy on the field if you are afriad to let him pass and actually play balls to the wall?In that case, you as the coach, are stupid for not having this all sorted out.Can your backup play as good as the starter?No.Obviously, there is a reason they are a backup.But...the whole point is...lets not go out there half cocked either.

Alabama fans should enjoy the win.Its not their fault that it came out the way it did.I, myself, wouldn't be happy no matter which team I was a fan of because I felt let down.I felt the same way when Bradford got hurt.All my friends were happy and I was kind of bummed.This is like a million times worse.I would still be happy if Texas won.But I wouldn't want them to win like this.
 

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If this if that. If your aunt had balls shed be your uncle. But that isnt true is it? What happened happened congrats to Alabama and there 13th national championship.
 

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If this if that. If your aunt had balls shed be your uncle. But that isnt true is it? What happened happened congrats to Alabama and there 13th national championship.


Hey...I don't like the what if game either.But when the "what if" actually does affect the outcome...it does have merit and should be accepted.That's all.Colt playing doesn't mean anything other than Texas would have had a chance.It doesn't mean they win.But him being out spelled as much doom as Ingram getting hurt would have for the Tide.

Its like getting drunk and then speeding down the highway in your car.Sure you might have gotten pulled over anyways.But the fact that you were speeding surely sealed the deal eh?
 

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predatorkj said:
Daltonb1219 said:
If this if that. If your aunt had balls shed be your uncle. But that isnt true is it? What happened happened congrats to Alabama and there 13th national championship.


Hey...I don't like the what if game either.But when the "what if" actually does affect the outcome...it does have merit and should be accepted.That's all.Colt playing doesn't mean anything other than Texas would have had a chance.It doesn't mean they win.But him being out spelled as much doom as Ingram getting hurt would have for the Tide.

Its like getting drunk and then speeding down the highway in your car.Sure you might have gotten pulled over anyways.But the fact that you were speeding surely sealed the deal eh?

Even if Colt did finish they game. "What if" He threw two picks instead of Gilbert who threw the two touchdowns passes.
 

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'Bama won the National Championship in the context of the current system. But after the last few years, since 2003 really, when LSU/USC split the final rankings, I have had a hard time accepting the "ordained" champion when there are teams with the same record at the end of the seaosn that didn't get a shot to prove anything.

Auburn got screwed in 2004, Boise State was undefeated in 2006, as was Utah in 2008. And now Boise State AGAIN is undefeated with no chance to prove anything; this is a team that hasn't lost a regular season game since 2007 and only lost thier bowl game last year by a point.

Again, congrats to 'Bama, they won the games they had to win to be declared the champion and you can't hold anything against them, but until they play and beat all DESERVING opponents, I just can't say they've WON anything for the season.
 

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predatorkj said:
Penno said:
minpin said:
Penno said:
Here's my what ifs? What if McElroy didn't have 2 cracked ribs? What if McClain didn't get a stomach bug? What if Hightower didn't go down early in the season.

Here is my [strike:hzuycaos]homer[/strike:hzuycaos] view on the McCoy injury: Football is a team game. It is also a very physical game. When playing a physical defense like Alabama, if all your eggs on offense are in McCoy's basket, you can't complain when he goes down. It's a TEAM game, so maybe Coach Brown should have prepared Gilbert more or constructed a more balanced team.

Thanks Coach for breaking that down for all of us::facepalm:: When your starting QB at a top 20 program goes down, it's going to be different team in regards to the playbook and the ability to make big plays. No team in the Top 20 would be the same team with a back-up QB. This about cost Iowa a BCS game when Stansi (Spellings?) went down......

You just can't prepare a back-up Froshman QB to be ready for a game of that magnitude..

(I'm not a fan of either team...but Ingram is a hell of a running back)

Look assclown, I'm just saying a team built on the passing attack around (mostly) 2 players is just asking for trouble. Seriously, what did I state that wasn't true? Maybe the kid should have got more reps during some of the blowouts or it wouldn't have killed the team to be a little more balanced.

I know you can't prepare a quarterback for a game like that. Just sit back for a second a think, if that's even possible for you. If McElroy goes out of the game, Bama wouldn't be completely screwed. Why? Because A.J. McCarron would have the run game to fall back upon. Sure, they're gonna make him air it out, but just having those playmakers there at RB is gonna take some pressure off the freshman.

This is something Texas didn't have the luxury of doing. Saban, for the most part, forced Gilbert to make plays. He made a few, but definitely not enough. He needed help, and that goes back to construction of the team.


Ingram goes down...Bama loses.Same scenario.Or are you gonna say it isn't?Your QB had very little to do with the outcome of the game.Like I said...lets just all let it go.I think we can all pretty much figure it was over once Colt got hurt and I agree a lot of the blame goes to Mack Brown for his part in piss poor backup planning.Why even have a guy on the field if you are afriad to let him pass and actually play balls to the wall?In that case, you as the coach, are stupid for not having this all sorted out.Can your backup play as good as the starter?No.Obviously, there is a reason they are a backup.But...the whole point is...lets not go out there half cocked either.

Alabama fans should enjoy the win.Its not their fault that it came out the way it did.I, myself, wouldn't be happy no matter which team I was a fan of because I felt let down.I felt the same way when Bradford got hurt.All my friends were happy and I was kind of bummed.This is like a million times worse.I would still be happy if Texas won.But I wouldn't want them to win like this.

The comment in bold is so very true. But of course, me being someone who loves to debate, I go to Ingram. If he goes down, the team takes a step back, but I think the team is still able to compete. With Richardson and Upchurch both very capable of continuing the offensive strategy of pounding the defense. Plus there is still Julio for the passing game. Now I'm not gonna homer it up and say the offense wouldn't miss a beat, just saying they would be in a better position to win relative to Texas. Some might say I'm being a homer and overvaluing Upchurch, but there have been times in the past when Bama had to ride him to victory.

With that said, I see we agree on other points, so I think we see where each other are coming from. My post you originally quoted wasn't as much to say what Texas did wrong, but more of what has to happen to play for a MNC. Takes a lot of luck no matter the situation. Bama has been very fortunate these last two years regarding injuries. I'm not saying Bama was completely loaded with offensive stars, just built better to survive an serious injury to an offensive star.

I have noticed over other websites with larger concentrations of Texas fans, they only played the "what if" game for so long. I think they are allowed to say that, as I know I would too if Texas was my team. It just seems for the most part, they have dropped it, but fans of other teams can't seem to get enough of it. Weird.
 

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Ingram goes down Bama just as strong
TRENT RICHARSON!!!

Not as big of a drop from McCoy to Gilbert

Texas should have had Gilbert more prepared throughout the year
Texas alos should have had more of a running game in case McCoy got hurt or Bama D totally took away passing zones


As a fan of neither team and just a fan of good college sports, I wish McCoy was healthy. Sure it was a bit interesting midway thru 4th quarter but I was so looking forward to an awesome game Thursday night
 

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