Shorted 15 autos in a Topps Chrome case - now what?

[MansGame]

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[rum151man]

This is probably a dumb question, but where do all these missing hits go????

Do they become extra hits in other boxes or are topps employees removing the hits intentionally aka stealing them???

 

[PeteD]

This is probably a dumb question, but where do all these missing hits go????

Do they become extra hits in other boxes or are topps employees removing the hits intentionally aka stealing them???

I wonder if they would consider putting autos into sealed sleeves like topps does with the retail patches, to stop employees from cherry picking the better autos or parallels.

 

[rsmath]

This is probably a dumb question, but where do all these missing hits go????

Do they become extra hits in other boxes or are topps employees removing the hits intentionally aka stealing them???

I would hope the NPN program. You'd have to think -- assuming there is honesty going on among Topps employees and Topps contractors -- that when the auto and/or relic drop bins jam up and a Topps contractor employee isn't paying attention, the extra autos or relics that shouldn't exist are just given back to Topps for NPN or damage replacement.

Additionally for control purposes, you'd hope that Topps has a total of the autos and relics given to the contractor and know how many need to be seeded in packout so if there are more autos/relics returned from packout than there should be, it means the seeding rate was not set right or the machines jammed and they will know how many boxes -- but not exactly which ones affected -- should be lacking the stated number of hits in them.

 

[jbhofmann]

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[nyc3]

As to another point, what is stopping anyone from just writing Topps and telling them they were shorted hits? It doesn't sound like he had to do anything other than just complain or write them. If I were them, I'd need to have all sorts of paper trail to prove this actually happened. Not saying the story is false but what is stopping anyone from saying they were shorted?

Nothing as a matter of fact they occasionally have to "ban" people from sending in "proof" for missing hits who do it all the time. People abuse this and I have literally seen it with my own eyes at my local shop. I heard one kid say his parents taught him to do this for free cards. When they used to give decent stuff back for missing hits (early 2000 sometime) I seen a customer break 3 boxes get super pissed at what he pulled and then destroyed 2 autographs to send back. He said he does this all the time when he gets stinkers he writes a "nice" letter saying how disgusted he is and how he is going to take his business elsewhere. He did this for years untill they finally banned him.

So yes there are still people doing this, more so that children feel every case should have 3 auto supers and have a 400% ROI.

 

[A_Pharis]

Upper Deck used to give out over-the-top replacements, too.
I once bought a hobby box of 2005 UD Classics that had a card missing an auto. I sent it in with a letter asking for a replacement, and I got 3 packs of random products in the package back. A pack of 2005 Sweet Spot (had a jersey), a pack I cannot remember, and a pack of Legendary Cuts (had an Eddie Mathews cut).

I would guess that word about stuff like that got out, and it got abused.

 

[BBCgalaxee]

Ah, the days of legit replacements. Miss them.

My only experience was I had an upper deck Letterman auto of Kerry wood which they replaced with a DiMaggio bat card.



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[rsmath]

Nothing as a matter of fact they occasionally have to "ban" people from sending in "proof" for missing hits who do it all the time. People abuse this and I have literally seen it with my own eyes at my local shop.

Isn't that why Topps changed their policy a few years ago to require collectors to scan or send in receipt for product purchase, the UPC symbol from the box, and sometimes even pack wrappers in order to get a missing hit or damaged hit replacement sent to them?

 

[nyc3]

Isn't that why Topps changed their policy a few years ago to require collectors to scan or send in receipt for product purchase, the UPC symbol from the box, and sometimes even pack wrappers in order to get a missing hit or damaged hit replacement sent to them?

But in the end what does that stop? Does it stop someone from claiming they didnt get a hit when they did? No. Does it stop people from destroying hits?No. All it really does it make sure the box isnt stolen. Which did not address the problem at all. It does screw up the people buying singles on ebay and returning them because they are not gem mint 10's but all they have to do is buy a box and get a receipt.

 

[MansGame]

But in the end what does that stop? Does it stop someone from claiming they didnt get a hit when they did? No. Does it stop people from destroying hits?No. All it really does it make sure the box isnt stolen. Which did not address the problem at all. It does screw up the people buying singles on ebay and returning them because they are not gem mint 10's but all they have to do is buy a box and get a receipt.

Doesn't UD put like serial numbers or some sort of code on the back of cards now? I don't know very much about it but could we come to a day where basically packs are monitored and tracked? Sounds a little much IMO but it's worth the question.

 

[nyc3]

Doesn't UD put like serial numbers or some sort of code on the back of cards now? I don't know very much about it but could we come to a day where basically packs are monitored and tracked? Sounds a little much IMO but it's worth the question.

If it was not a machine error this may be possible. But in order to do what you suggest it would cost a lot of cash to reform these machines which would track what card went were.

 

[MansGame]

If it was not a machine error this may be possible. But in order to do what you suggest it would cost a lot of cash to reform these machines which would track what card went were.

Yea, not saying it's a good idea... think it's way overboard.

 

[Super Mario]

Can't wait to see what they send him.

 

[MansGame]

Can't wait to see what they send him.

I'd like to see the auto's he did pull as well...

 

[predatorkj]

I'd like to see the auto's he did pull as well...

It shouldn't matter if he got a good auto or two. The point still remains that he is missing 15 autos and he likely faces getting pure crap back from topps and people are acting like he should be ok with that. And he shouldn't. I understand life isn't fair but IMO, it's worth griping about when you spend that kind of money and get or will get royally screwed due to the manufacturer's error and not by random chance. If you pull a whole case of crap(which isn't super likely) then you call it a day. This is a little different and the "chance" to get a good pull has been taken away which is the whole point of busting wax these days with the industry the way it is and the monster we have created.

So IMO, who cares what he did pull. It is of little relevance.

 

[Super Mario]

Yeah, it doesn't matter to me what autographs he did pull. He could have pulled a 1/1 Babe Ruth cut autograph but that doesn't mean he should be screwed on the other auto's he is supposed to get.

 

[MansGame]

Yeah, it doesn't matter to me what autographs he did pull. He could have pulled a 1/1 Babe Ruth cut autograph but that doesn't mean he should be screwed on the other auto's he is supposed to get.

That wasn't my point - I just have an interest in what was pulled.

Lets all be honest... if a 1/1 Babe Ruth cut auto was pulled, I don't think this thread would of been created, period.

Good hypothetical though ::facepalm::

 

[bongo870]

why not wait to see what he gets first...

 

[jbhofmann]

That wasn't my point - I just have an interest in what was pulled.

Lets all be honest... if a 1/1 Babe Ruth cut auto was pulled, I don't think this thread would of been created, period.

Good hypothetical though ::facepalm::

This is not the tone that has been implied in the thread. The tone set was that he is holding back info of some of the cards he did pull.


Not that everyone is waiting on pins and needles to find out what he pulled.