**SLABS ARE BACK!**OFFICIAL THREAD: BGS Group Submission

[mchenrycards]

Updates on shipments would be really helpful. Especially since its 2 weeks since the the cards were received back from beckett

 

[cgilmo]

Updates on shipments would be really helpful. Especially since its 2 weeks since the the cards were received back from beckett

you and I seem to have a bit of a disconnect here



I cannot ship if I cannot print a label.


I do not have a paypal payment from you so that I may print a label for your package.


I realize that I gave you the wrong paypal address at first. I believe you have the correct one now, and by the way the correct paypal address is also listed in the first post of this thread.

Make that payment and I will print your label and get it mailed out. Paypal will email you a tracking number right when I print the label.

We have spoken many times about this issue and to say you do not have an update is simply un true.

 

[phillyfan0417]

Updates on shipments would be really helpful. Especially since its 2 weeks since the the cards were received back from beckett

you and I seem to have a bit of a disconnect here



I cannot ship if I cannot print a label.


I do not have a paypal payment from you so that I may print a label for your package.


I realize that I gave you the wrong paypal address at first. I believe you have the correct one now, and by the way the correct paypal address is also listed in the first post of this thread.

Make that payment and I will print your label and get it mailed out. Paypal will email you a tracking number right when I print the label.

We have spoken many times about this issue and to say you do not have an update is simply un true.

:lol:

You are a saint Gilmo.

 

[chuckbartowski]

I picked up my shipment from the PO this morning, but haven't had a chance to open it...can't wait to get home so I can.

 

[arod305]

So if we sent concealed cash or check ours is the last to ship?

 

[cgilmo]

So if we sent concealed cash or check ours is the last to ship?

not nessessarily

there is no one thing that could make your package last to ship

 

[mchenrycards]

Updates on shipments would be really helpful. Especially since its 2 weeks since the the cards were received back from beckett

you and I seem to have a bit of a disconnect here



I cannot ship if I cannot print a label.


I do not have a paypal payment from you so that I may print a label for your package.


I realize that I gave you the wrong paypal address at first. I believe you have the correct one now, and by the way the correct paypal address is also listed in the first post of this thread.

Make that payment and I will print your label and get it mailed out. Paypal will email you a tracking number right when I print the label.

We have spoken many times about this issue and to say you do not have an update is simply un true.

Well Chris thanks for calling me out here since I have kept all of my dealings with you private. I have made the damn payment to you 3 times. Twice you gave me the wrong email address to pay (although the 2nd time you corrected it and I didnt see the correction) so its not like I have made no attempt to pay. I have a long string of emails that we have traded back and forth this week and never in any of those emails did I feel like you went out of your way to determine where the "disconnect" was even after I informed you each time I had sent you a payment. The only time I was advised that payment was not received was when I asked you what was happening with my shipment. I know you are busy and this takes alot of your time!! Hell we are all busy and we have things to do. I dont mean to sound ungrateful but if you dont have the proper time to devote to a endevour such as this than maybe you need to find someone to take over the project or just not offer it. To make people wait this long for their cards or to show special treatment to guys that you know are flipping the cards is just not right. Maybe next time, return shipping should depend on who has paid you not on who is flipping their cards. If Collector "A" was the 1st to pay you the shipping charges then collector "A" should be the one who has his cards shipped back to him 1st!!.

I know you will light me up for this post but I think you need to rethink this whole program or find some help with it. I would be happy to volunteer to help in anyway I can as I know its a huge project.

 

[mchenrycards]

Updates on shipments would be really helpful. Especially since its 2 weeks since the the cards were received back from beckett

you and I seem to have a bit of a disconnect here



I cannot ship if I cannot print a label.


I do not have a paypal payment from you so that I may print a label for your package.


I realize that I gave you the wrong paypal address at first. I believe you have the correct one now, and by the way the correct paypal address is also listed in the first post of this thread.

Make that payment and I will print your label and get it mailed out. Paypal will email you a tracking number right when I print the label.

We have spoken many times about this issue and to say you do not have an update is simply un true.

:lol:

You are a saint Gilmo.

You havnt seen my side of the story either. I think there is sainthood on both sides!!

 

[cgilmo]

Updates on shipments would be really helpful. Especially since its 2 weeks since the the cards were received back from beckett

you and I seem to have a bit of a disconnect here



I cannot ship if I cannot print a label.


I do not have a paypal payment from you so that I may print a label for your package.


I realize that I gave you the wrong paypal address at first. I believe you have the correct one now, and by the way the correct paypal address is also listed in the first post of this thread.

Make that payment and I will print your label and get it mailed out. Paypal will email you a tracking number right when I print the label.

We have spoken many times about this issue and to say you do not have an update is simply un true.

:lol:

You are a saint Gilmo.

You havnt seen my side of the story either. I think there is sainthood on both sides!!

absolutely

You have handled this in an acceptable manner. I am not saying you didn't. However I do think we have a bit of a disconnect, and we do not understand what the other needs in order to get this done.

All I need is your shipping paypaled to [email protected].

I am sorry I typo'd the address when i sent you a pm.

 

[mchenrycards]

Updates on shipments would be really helpful. Especially since its 2 weeks since the the cards were received back from beckett

you and I seem to have a bit of a disconnect here



I cannot ship if I cannot print a label.


I do not have a paypal payment from you so that I may print a label for your package.


I realize that I gave you the wrong paypal address at first. I believe you have the correct one now, and by the way the correct paypal address is also listed in the first post of this thread.

Make that payment and I will print your label and get it mailed out. Paypal will email you a tracking number right when I print the label.

We have spoken many times about this issue and to say you do not have an update is simply un true.

:lol:

You are a saint Gilmo.

You havnt seen my side of the story either. I think there is sainthood on both sides!!

absolutely

You have handled this in an acceptable manner. I am not saying you didn't. However I do think we have a bit of a disconnect, and we do not understand what the other needs in order to get this done.

All I need is your shipping paypaled to [email protected].

I am sorry I typo'd the address when i sent you a pm.

No worries,

I believe you have accepted the payment as it has been finally sent to the proper address.

I do mean what I said by my being willing to assist with this project in any way that I can. I know you might have been overwhelmed with it and if you need assistance in any way I would be more than happy to help

 

[hofautos]

I am kind of curious how the entire process works?

Do you open up everyones package, then have to audit and create one submission sheet with all the cards as one submission, and put in one package and ship off.

Then on return, you have to resort all 600+ cards into everyones individual orders based on their lists (all of which aren't standardized), and then package each individually and ship back to 35+ different users?

That does seem like a big chore, and prone to error too.

Did you ask Beckett if once you recieve all of the orders if you can keep them in their own packages but mail in one box, and then they keep the individual packages seperate? I would think between Beckett and you, you could come up with a better process that will help you? Maybe if you showed them this thread they would see some of the issues and be willing to work with you in some way to help, to keep the orders coming in?

Either way, just a thought...good luck in all of it to everyone....

 

[mredsox89]

I am kind of curious how the entire process works?

Do you open up everyones package, then have to audit and create one submission sheet with all the cards as one submission, and put in one package and ship off.

Then on return, you have to resort all 600+ cards into everyones individual orders based on their lists (all of which aren't standardized), and then package each individually and ship back to 35+ different users?

That does seem like a big chore, and prone to error too.

Did you ask Beckett if once you recieve all of the orders if you can keep them in their own packages but mail in one box, and then they keep the individual packages seperate? I would think between Beckett and you, you could come up with a better process that will help you? Maybe if you showed them this thread they would see some of the issues and be willing to work with you in some way to help, to keep the orders coming in?

Either way, just a thought...good luck in all of it to everyone....

they were kept in three different orders and Chris organized them so he would know whos cards are where.

 

[hofautos]

I am kind of curious how the entire process works?

Do you open up everyones package, then have to audit and create one submission sheet with all the cards as one submission, and put in one package and ship off.

Then on return, you have to resort all 600+ cards into everyones individual orders based on their lists (all of which aren't standardized), and then package each individually and ship back to 35+ different users?

That does seem like a big chore, and prone to error too.

Did you ask Beckett if once you recieve all of the orders if you can keep them in their own packages but mail in one box, and then they keep the individual packages seperate? I would think between Beckett and you, you could come up with a better process that will help you? Maybe if you showed them this thread they would see some of the issues and be willing to work with you in some way to help, to keep the orders coming in?

Either way, just a thought...good luck in all of it to everyone....

they were kept in three different orders and Chris organized them so he would know whos cards are where.

Well, he did call me, put my package together and said that he would ship them out right away. I am very grateful to that, and it really wasn't necessary...but It does seem like some things are a little bit disorganized...in which way, i am not sure. He also said things would get better each time around, which makes sense...but it doesn't help those that still haven't had their orders shipped. I am not sure why it would take so long. I do think, to be FAIR to all, that in future shipments, he should get them all packaged up labeled, and shipped out all at once. It will also save him trips to the post office.

 

[HoustonTeams4Me]

Hey there Chris, I'm still receiving this message when I type in the tracking code from my shipping label that you made:

The U.S. Postal Service was electronically notified by the shipper on May 4, 2009 to expect your package for mailing. This does not indicate receipt by the USPS or the actual mailing date. Delivery status information will be provided if / when available. Information, if available, is updated every evening. Please check again later.

I'm just writing to get an update on my shipment (to see if they have or haven't been shipped) as I'm seeing that other's are receiving thier item's (also my item's have been pictured pictured in my blog area since the beginning- which you had said those that do this will be receiving thier packages more quickly). I guess my last post in this thread questioning "if I should be worried" wasn't clear as I wanted to know if they have in fact been sent out yet or not? Thanks again bud & everyone reading this please do not take this as "complaining" (as it is in no way a complaint, I just opted to post in this thread instead of PM'ing Chris since I'm sure his IN-Box is littered with these type's of message's & I figured this means of communication would be more likely to receive a response than the "cluster-firg" that he's got in his n-box). Take care bud, Dave.

 

[cgilmo]

Getting them all packaged and ready to ship at once isn't feasible, and isn't gonna happen.


In the interest of fairness, it hasn't been that long. People entered into this with unreasonable expectations.

This service will be run in a manner that works for me and my time, everyone will just have to live with that. Also understand that there is a 0% markup on my end. This is all done to benefit the community and in turn to benefit this board.


Also, this is not really for the guy who wants to sub a card or two. There are far better ways to get that done, including piggybacking on a 5 day submission. I am sure that the people that want to participate and understand how the subs work before hand will continue submitting. It is natural to assume that there are those who do not.

 

[hofautos]

Getting them all packaged and ready to ship at once isn't feasible, and isn't gonna happen.


In the interest of fairness, it hasn't been that long. People entered into this with unreasonable expectations.

This service will be run in a manner that works for me and my time, everyone will just have to live with that. Also understand that there is a 0% markup on my end. This is all done to benefit the community and in turn to benefit this board.


Also, this is not really for the guy who wants to sub a card or two. There are far better ways to get that done, including piggybacking on a 5 day submission. I am sure that the people that want to participate and understand how the subs work before hand will continue submitting. It is natural to assume that there are those who do not.

I agree, I think many had expectations that exceeded yours. I think most people believed that their packages would be shipped the same time as others. I also believe that many people thought that whether they had a 5 card submission, or a 100 card submission, that they would be treated with the same respect.. Now that you have provided this information, I am sure many with subs of less than 20+ cards will reconsider before submitting to you again, as you suggest.

All of this information would have been nice knowing before going into it...but better late than never...

I am not complaining for myself, as my cards were for PC, and also you indicated that mine are in the mail already. It also doesn't make much sense to complain or make enemies with the "sysop", but I just thought that those that have not submitted before and were considering to in the future, or those that have been disappointed, may do as you suggest, and to think twice.

Peace, hope you don't get mad at me...

PS - maybe it would make sense if you can state how many cards one needs to submit in order for you to ship on same day as the larger orders?

 

[cgilmo]

I ain't mad at anyone.




btw, 10 shipments mailed out today.

 

[mchenrycards]

Getting them all packaged and ready to ship at once isn't feasible, and isn't gonna happen.


In the interest of fairness, it hasn't been that long. People entered into this with unreasonable expectations.

This service will be run in a manner that works for me and my time, everyone will just have to live with that. Also understand that there is a 0% markup on my end. This is all done to benefit the community and in turn to benefit this board.


Also, this is not really for the guy who wants to sub a card or two. There are far better ways to get that done, including piggybacking on a 5 day submission. I am sure that the people that want to participate and understand how the subs work before hand will continue submitting. It is natural to assume that there are those who do not.

I agree, I think many had expectations that exceeded yours. I think most people believed that their packages would be shipped the same time as others. I also don't believe that many thought they should have a submission of 50+ cards to be treated with the same respect as those with larger submissions.. Now that you have provided this information, I am sure many will reconsider before submitting to you again, as you suggest.

All of this information would have been nice knowing before going into it...but better late than never...

I agree with this comment.

I assumed this submission was for anyone regardless of the size of the cards a person would submit. (And I know that this is open to anyone....there were no restrictions) I think that if reasonable expectations were set forth right from the start... that people who were flipping their cards would receive them back quicker, there would be a lot less whineing on many peoples parts. I wish I knew this before hand. I would have still submitted the cards but I would have understood where I stood in the "shipping chain".

I also knew Chris would not get these cards out all at one time and I dont think that is even reasonable to expect this. Chris is there any way that we can draw up a listing of rules for future submissions. Maybe we can say something like the follwoing so we all have reasonable expectations??

card submissions between 1-9 cards get return shipping within 20 days of receipt from Beckett
card submissions between 10-14 cards get return shipping within 15 days of receipt from Beckett
card submissions between 15-24 cards get return shipping within 12 days of receipt from Beckett
card submissions between 25-50 cards get return shipping within 8 days of receipt from Beckett
card submissions between 51-100 cards get return shipping within 5days of receipt from Beckett
card submissions between 101-+ cards get return shipping within 3 days of receipt from Beckett

A schedule like this will give anyone the expectations they need going into the submission and it will give You the time needed to ship these cards. (of course dates can be adjusted).

I also believe that going forward return shipping should be charged and paid for when the cards are submited so Chris does not have issues of chasing people down for payment. (This might be in the new submission TOS but I have not looked)

I am just trying to be a part of the solution and not one of those ones who only ******* and never offers any help to correct the issue.

I think as this process goes forward it can only get better.

Thanks for listening

Andrew

 

[hofautos]

Getting them all packaged and ready to ship at once isn't feasible, and isn't gonna happen.


In the interest of fairness, it hasn't been that long. People entered into this with unreasonable expectations.

This service will be run in a manner that works for me and my time, everyone will just have to live with that. Also understand that there is a 0% markup on my end. This is all done to benefit the community and in turn to benefit this board.


Also, this is not really for the guy who wants to sub a card or two. There are far better ways to get that done, including piggybacking on a 5 day submission. I am sure that the people that want to participate and understand how the subs work before hand will continue submitting. It is natural to assume that there are those who do not.

I agree, I think many had expectations that exceeded yours. I think most people believed that their packages would be shipped the same time as others. I also don't believe that many thought they should have a submission of 50+ cards to be treated with the same respect as those with larger submissions.. Now that you have provided this information, I am sure many will reconsider before submitting to you again, as you suggest.

All of this information would have been nice knowing before going into it...but better late than never...

I agree with this comment.

I assumed this submission was for anyone regardless of the size of the cards a person would submit. (And I know that this is open to anyone....there were no restrictions) I think that if reasonable expectations were set forth right from the start... that people who were flipping their cards would receive them back quicker, there would be a lot less whineing on many peoples parts. I wish I knew this before hand. I would have still submitted the cards but I would have understood where I stood in the "shipping chain".

I also knew Chris would not get these cards out all at one time and I dont think that is even reasonable to expect this. Chris is there any way that we can draw up a listing of rules for future submissions. Maybe we can say something like the follwoing so we all have reasonable expectations??

card submissions between 1-9 cards get return shipping within 20 days of receipt from Beckett
card submissions between 10-14 cards get return shipping within 15 days of receipt from Beckett
card submissions between 15-24 cards get return shipping within 12 days of receipt from Beckett
card submissions between 25-50 cards get return shipping within 8 days of receipt from Beckett
card submissions between 51-100 cards get return shipping within 5days of receipt from Beckett
card submissions between 101-+ cards get return shipping within 3 days of receipt from Beckett

A schedule like this will give anyone the expectations they need going into the submission and it will give You the time needed to ship these cards. (of course dates can be adjusted).

I also believe that going forward return shipping should be charged and paid for when the cards are submited so Chris does not have issues of chasing people down for payment. (This might be in the new submission TOS but I have not looked)

I am just trying to be a part of the solution and not one of those ones who only ******* and never offers any help to correct the issue.

I think as this process goes forward it can only get better.

Thanks for listening

Andrew

Excellent...I think that was the main problem...that most people didn't realize there was a pecking order. I really wouldn't have minded at ALL, if I was aware that for an order of 10 cards you would have to wait 2 weeks longer than everyone else.
I also think once a deadline is made, it should be KEPT without favoritism. I paid an extra few bucks for priority, when it wasn't needed, just to make the deadline. There also should be some online form (i may be able to help if you want), so that everyone submits the same way with the same information...(ie lost emails, lost addresses, dont know if your cards arrived, etc...).

Also, like you stated above, you may want a minimum order size....it is a lot of work for no money on your part...just be up front about it.

 

[cgilmo]

the "pecking order" was really pretty loosely defined.


I picked an order that I knew would be pretty easy, in this case jcaunda's order

I went to the slabs and i pulled his cards out.

Sometimes I would see a card while i was sorting and know who the card belonged to. I would then put that card aside as that persons.

After I finished jcunda's order I then moved on to the next big ish blog entry I could find. It is beneficial to sort the big orders first, because then you eliminate the stack of cards you have to go through to pull an order.

I have already taken steps to make this go a bit faster now that I know what I am up against. An area of my office at home has been converted into a sorting table.