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Can LeBron meet him in the Finals
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IndyMann said:I like the Magic to wrap it up tonight unless David Stern pulls some of his shenanigans.
chisox3706 said:nope lebron will never win a title. the cavs will win game 5 im sure, but magic in 6. even if the cavs come back to win in 7, the lakers are waiting to tear them apart. screw the "kobe/lebron" matchup...lebron has to be good enough to get there first.
Snyper said:chisox3706 said:nope lebron will never win a title. the cavs will win game 5 im sure, but magic in 6. even if the cavs come back to win in 7, the lakers are waiting to tear them apart. screw the "kobe/lebron" matchup...lebron has to be good enough to get there first.
I think you mean the rest of the Cavs need to be good enough? Because Lebron wasn't the league's MVP this year or anything right? ::facepalm::
brokenliz1 said:IndyMann said:I like the Magic to wrap it up tonight unless David Stern pulls some of his shenanigans.
I think if the Magic want to win they will have have to do it in game six.If the Cavs get even it will end with the Cavs winning in game 7.Really though who wants watch the lakers vs. magic?Almost nobody.We all want to see Lakers vs. Cavs AKA Kobe vs. Lebron.
Snyper said:chisox3706 said:nope lebron will never win a title. the cavs will win game 5 im sure, but magic in 6. even if the cavs come back to win in 7, the lakers are waiting to tear them apart. screw the "kobe/lebron" matchup...lebron has to be good enough to get there first.
I think you mean the rest of the Cavs need to be good enough? Because Lebron wasn't the league's MVP this year or anything right? ::facepalm::
chisox3706 said:Snyper said:chisox3706 said:nope lebron will never win a title. the cavs will win game 5 im sure, but magic in 6. even if the cavs come back to win in 7, the lakers are waiting to tear them apart. screw the "kobe/lebron" matchup...lebron has to be good enough to get there first.
I think you mean the rest of the Cavs need to be good enough? Because Lebron wasn't the league's MVP this year or anything right? ::facepalm::
how many other so-called "mvp's" never made it to the promised land? off the top of my head without googling anything: karl malone, barkley and iverson. i think nowitzki won it a few years ago too and im sure im missing a few others. all players that could make it to the finals but MVP does not automatically equal championship no matter how good you are or your season was (or how good or bad your supporting cast is either).
i wouldnt have ever cared if MJ never won an MVP as long as those titles kept rolling in for chicago. im sorry but MJ was truly the type of player that made everyone around him better. i mean look at pippen and ho.grant to name two. they were integral pieces of the bulls rosters and then without MJ they were just...regular players...(pip especially)
so as i was saying, lebron can keep his mvp trophy, he will never hoist a championship one...now unless he goes to a stacked team like boston did last year, that was just sick with their three-headed monster...then there is no looking back and i will accept lebron getting his ring, but thats the only way i foresee it happening IMO.
...and besides, werent the cavs the "favorite" to win the championship? i mean they are supposedly "unstoppable" at home...lets see if they can pull a red sox v yankees down 3-1 series comeback.
chisox3706 said:Snyper said:chisox3706 said:nope lebron will never win a title. the cavs will win game 5 im sure, but magic in 6. even if the cavs come back to win in 7, the lakers are waiting to tear them apart. screw the "kobe/lebron" matchup...lebron has to be good enough to get there first.
I think you mean the rest of the Cavs need to be good enough? Because Lebron wasn't the league's MVP this year or anything right? ::facepalm::
how many other so-called "mvp's" never made it to the promised land? off the top of my head without googling anything: karl malone, barkley and iverson. i think nowitzki won it a few years ago too and im sure im missing a few others. all players that could make it to the finals but MVP does not automatically equal championship no matter how good you are or your season was (or how good or bad your supporting cast is either).
i wouldnt have ever cared if MJ never won an MVP as long as those titles kept rolling in for chicago. im sorry but MJ was truly the type of player that made everyone around him better. i mean look at pippen and ho.grant to name two. they were integral pieces of the bulls rosters and then without MJ they were just...regular players...(pip especially)
so as i was saying, lebron can keep his mvp trophy, he will never hoist a championship one...now unless he goes to a stacked team like boston did last year, that was just sick with their three-headed monster...then there is no looking back and i will accept lebron getting his ring, but thats the only way i foresee it happening IMO.
...and besides, werent the cavs the "favorite" to win the championship? i mean they are supposedly "unstoppable" at home...lets see if they can pull a red sox v yankees down 3-1 series comeback.
Snyper said:chisox3706 said:Snyper said:chisox3706 said:nope lebron will never win a title. the cavs will win game 5 im sure, but magic in 6. even if the cavs come back to win in 7, the lakers are waiting to tear them apart. screw the "kobe/lebron" matchup...lebron has to be good enough to get there first.
I think you mean the rest of the Cavs need to be good enough? Because Lebron wasn't the league's MVP this year or anything right? ::facepalm::
how many other so-called "mvp's" never made it to the promised land? off the top of my head without googling anything: karl malone, barkley and iverson. i think nowitzki won it a few years ago too and im sure im missing a few others. all players that could make it to the finals but MVP does not automatically equal championship no matter how good you are or your season was (or how good or bad your supporting cast is either).
i wouldnt have ever cared if MJ never won an MVP as long as those titles kept rolling in for chicago. im sorry but MJ was truly the type of player that made everyone around him better. i mean look at pippen and ho.grant to name two. they were integral pieces of the bulls rosters and then without MJ they were just...regular players...(pip especially)
so as i was saying, lebron can keep his mvp trophy, he will never hoist a championship one...now unless he goes to a stacked team like boston did last year, that was just sick with their three-headed monster...then there is no looking back and i will accept lebron getting his ring, but thats the only way i foresee it happening IMO.
...and besides, werent the cavs the "favorite" to win the championship? i mean they are supposedly "unstoppable" at home...lets see if they can pull a red sox v yankees down 3-1 series comeback.
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You kinda just switched up your arguement there.. First you said "Lebron has to be good enough to get there first", in which I commented that not him, but his team needs to get "good enough". So first it was Lebron not being good enough, but now it's "I don't care if he was MVP, he can't do it by himself", which is basically what I said in the first place.
And now you by saying that MJ truly made his supporting cast better, (I don't disagree) that Lebron hasn't done the same for his Cavs? Come on man..
aw00d05 said:His team can't win in Orlando, he can score 50 and they'll lose because his teammates flat out suck outside of Cleveland.
Card Magnet said:I wish LeBron would go play in the European league just so I wouldn't have to hear about him. The over exposure takes away from his level of play for me. You can only eat so much candy until it makes you sick. Right now, I could care less if he ever gets a title. Save the "God's gift to basketball" talk until he wins something. Until then, Kobe and MJ are in a league above him.
You can score 100 points a game, but if you can't elevate your team to greatness with you...
The Magic aren't a nationally popular team, and I don't see why. You can see that with their explosiveness (mostly thanks to their 3 game) that hey are never out of a game. If you don't give 100% for the entire game, they'll get you. They've got a few solid young guys there too. Dwight Howard is one of the best centers in the game today, and one of the best defensive players.
ffgameman said:Only Magic fans. I want them to go on mainly because my player is on their team (Courtney Lee, who graduated from the college I now attend).
Otherwise, I would probably want Kobe/LeBron too. However, it's about the integrity of the game. If there's any chance the league would "rig" the series for that match-up, there's a big problem.
brokenliz1 said:IndyMann said:I like the Magic to wrap it up tonight unless David Stern pulls some of his shenanigans.
I think if the Magic want to win they will have have to do it in game six.If the Cavs get even it will end with the Cavs winning in game 7.Really though who wants watch the lakers vs. magic?Almost nobody.We all want to see Lakers vs. Cavs AKA Kobe vs. Lebron.
Had the Cavs been in the west they wouldn't have won as many games as they did. They had the benefit of playing a weaker eastern division. But I have to admit that the east did get a whole lot better this year. The Cavs are one good player away from a title, but as far as this year goes GO LAKERS!Tomlinson21RB said:aw00d05 said:His team can't win in Orlando, he can score 50 and they'll lose because his teammates flat out suck outside of Cleveland.
I agree. I thought Lebron was good enough to win the series, but I didn't realize just how bad his supporting cast is. Delonte West would be a great 6th man, but he's their starting guard. Mo Williams is a streaky shooter and not much else. Z is old and slow, Wallace is a shell of his former self, and Varejao can only flop. I originally thought if the Magic were going to win a game in the series it had to be game one. As it turns out they're going to win the series, but they had to steal home court in game one and did. That's the difference so far in the series.