So tired of ebay sellers and their counter offers

[MacK]

I've done my homework and provided more than enough proof, along with verification from other members and links to multiple sites detailing his scams. You're the moderator here, do yours. If you want to investigate further here's a good start.

Not that I believe for one second it will make a bit of difference. Google the following phrases.

Garkocollector banned.
Bad trader Tom Murry.

That will start you out. You can follow the bread crumbs from there. I'm satisfied that everyone knows all about the past he's tried to hide. Tom Murry is a known thief. Time will pass and I'll have to remind everyone again. No big deal. Time is all any of us really have anyway.

I'm with you. I thought I was seemingly missing something as to why he was on this site, as I've had a deal go wrong with him, where he still owes me money. It wasn't a big money transaction, but it's still the idea of not coming up on your side of the deal, then removing all funding sources from your PayPal. I thought I was missing something, whether that wasn't him, or he just pulled a 180 and paid his dues. It was never a big deal to me, but just because he hasn't done it on this site doesn't mean it can't happen again.

EDIT: And if this isn't you Tom, I'm sorry. I'm not sure which names you've used, but the one I dealt with definitely had its similarities.

 

[craiger122003]

Again just dont deal with the guy
We have MULTIPLE threads of ban this buyer on Ebay
This is just the same deal

 

[blanning71]

thats fine. I will do what I can. If you know of anyone that has personally been wronged, and not someone just passing along info or posting what they have heard, please feel free to have them email me.

My email address is [email protected]

I will be glad to address their concerns.

 

[blanning71]

I've done my homework and provided more than enough proof, along with verification from other members and links to multiple sites detailing his scams. You're the moderator here, do yours. If you want to investigate further here's a good start.

Not that I believe for one second it will make a bit of difference. Google the following phrases.

Garkocollector banned.
Bad trader Tom Murry.

That will start you out. You can follow the bread crumbs from there. I'm satisfied that everyone knows all about the past he's tried to hide. Tom Murry is a known thief. Time will pass and I'll have to remind everyone again. No big deal. Time is all any of us really have anyway.

I'm with you. I thought I was seemingly missing something as to why he was on this site, as I've had a deal go wrong with him, where he still owes me money. It wasn't a big money transaction, but it's still the idea of not coming up on your side of the deal, then removing all funding sources from your PayPal. I thought I was missing something, whether that wasn't him, or he just pulled a 180 and paid his dues. It was never a big deal to me, but just because he hasn't done it on this site doesn't mean it can't happen again.

Mack, please PM me with details on this situation. I want to help. Thanks

 

[G $MONEY$]

Wow... makes me wonder if he was telling me the truth when we did a transaction. When 2010 bowman came out, he was selling his case in the transaction board. He had a price of 1200 for a jumbo case, and at the time it was almost exploading to the 1600 range. Anyway i sent him a check for 1200. Couple days later he tells me his car got busted into and they stole the case! Of course i believed him and felt bad. I told him i was gonna put a hold on the check that i sent him because its alot of money and he didnt have the case anymore. Well he pms me back and says you dont have to do that, im an honest guy and i told you what happen, i take offense to that. I told him im just looking out for myself. Tom didnt scam me, with all these stories i just wouldnt liked to have been lied to. (Jumbos were selling at 2200 by the time i got my check back)

Fits his MO. Sounds like you were extremely lucky. Also sounds like you "loaned" him $1200 bucks for him to use for something else and then pay you back after he made a profit off of whatever it was. I have seen that scam a million times.

Sounds to me like he never cashed the checked and the OP put a "HOLD" on the check and then Tom sent the check back to the OP not cashed. So i don't think the OP "LOANED" him any money in this "scam" you've seen a million times.

If anything, Toms just guilty of not selling a product for the agreed upon price. But even saying that is just pure speculation because i don't know if his car was really broken into or not.

If Tom wanted to scam, he could have Easily just cashed the OP's $1200 check and went on his way, instead of sending the check back not cashed.

 

[Keyser Soze]

[youtube:3tvnrpa5]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsqJFIJ5lLs[/youtube:3tvnrpa5]

 

[dadofandrew]

titans74 positive feedback 0
Tom Murry positive feedback 100

correct me if i am wrong, but isn't 100>0??

With Toms current feedback history here, what (may have) happened on other websites in the past shouldn't even be brought up on FCB. Let his feedback on FCB speaks for itself, and influence how people choose to deal with him, not YOUR interpretation what kind of person/trader he is. If you have any personal dealings with him that aren't on FCB, take them up where the deals were made, not here. If you don't have any deals with him that went bad, whats the problem? Are you just one of those people that complains to hear yourself yap?

I guess that's one way to look at it. If my kid's babysitter is a child molester, and you know that and I don't, I would really appreciate it if you took the time to let me know. If I'm about to trade with a known scammer, it would also be considerate of you to let me know. I didn't think the murder analogy made sense, but your post made it make complete sense. If a guy commits a crime in one state, that crime follows him to other states. Just because a guy hasn't scammed anybody on our site yet doesn't mean he is not a scammer. That's not Dr. Murry's game. He spends time building up a good reputation, once that is done he arranges a couple mammoth trades, and *poof* he's gone like Keyser Soze. Of course the one guy's deal with the $200 paypal gift went through smoothly... Tom is looking for more like $3,000 worth of cards.

I didn't get ripped off, I just read a lot of sad stories from a lot of sad traders who got ripped off. And then he started frequenting the Topps MB, where there were no mods- just a bunch of kids waiting to get ripped off. I was pretty vigilant about making sure that everybody knew he was a scam artist back then. I don't bother here. If CGilmo wants a shark swimming in his pool, hey, it's his pool. Plus we have all these great lifeguards around. I just hope that the FCB site is willing to help the people who get taken for thousands when it happens.

I know I seem rather confident that he will do it again. I really believe he will. I might feel differently if at any point in time he would have just admitted he was a scammer and he learned his lesson and he's changed. I probably wouldn't believe that either honestly, but... all you'll ever get from Tom is denials. There is another doctor named Tom Murry, and apparently he also collects Garko. So does the guy Tom Murray, coincidentally. And Thom Murry. All these people with similar names, all in the same region, and all collecting Ryan Garko. Completely believable.

FCB: "You're going to have to have a send first banner on your profile"
TomMurry: "That's no problem." The scam takes longer than a year anyway, suckers...

Thats easy I remember it quite clearly

He bought a bunch of reprints then made up a story on how he found them in a metal tin at an antique shop. Then tried to sell them to members of several message boards.

After only being confronted with the completed reprint auctions it was all a big joke (because that's funny?). Then some detective work over at the PSA boards uncovered this name has ripped off several people on several different message boards, they where all using addresses in the same 2 neighborhoods most with variations of the same name. All of which now are clearly posted all over the internet.

Here's how it went down on the Topps MB. First he posted about this old tin he bought at the antique shop, he had a good feeling about it. Then he updated it and said sure enough, it had vintage cards in it like he thought it would! Then he updated the thread with scans of the cards. Somebody showed us in his ebay feedback that he purchased them as clearly advertised reprints on ebay. Then Tom disappeared for a week. When he came back he explained what happened. Somebody had hacked into his Topps account and made that whole story up to make him look bad. Pretty plausible stuff.

It was an inspiration to me though. I thought occasionally when reading back over the posts I had made the night before, I had trouble remembering posting that stuff. I thought things like "man I got to quit getting so incredibly drunk!" I was out of control on the Topps board- correcting people's spelling, things like that. It's offenses like that that got you kicked off the board (sadly, I'm being serious about that part)... I set up some surveillance equipment and busted the perpetrator:

I loved the TMB. That tin box made for a classic thread. Almost as good as the guy who told us how to pop popcorn using 4 cell phones. He "tryed it, it worked". Had to bust out the birds again...

The tin of cards thread was 100% pure awesomeness.

oh the popcorn thread was great too

 

[mjbuchanan80]

Just hopped back into this thread wondering why it reached 9 pages. Totally unaware of the turn it took.

Tom Murray is GarkoCollector??!! I remember reading about his antics on other boards in the past. Blown away right now.

 

[LazerShow15]

The antics of counteroffers is the nature of the beast, but unprofessional when their BIN is $49.99 and they come back with $49.98, but has a seller using this feature on Ebay, I am also sick and tired of the offers I get when I have a $300 item that goes for around $250, but people still offer $25 or $30, etc. It is something you need to deal with and not complain about. There is a setting you can select that you do not need to respond to these offers as it automatically rejects them.

 

[markakis8]

The antics of counteroffers is the nature of the beast, but unprofessional when their BIN is $49.99 and they come back with $49.98, but has a seller using this feature on Ebay, I am also sick and tired of the offers I get when I have a $300 item that goes for around $250, but people still offer $25 or $30, etc. It is something you need to deal with and not complain about. There is a setting you can select that you do not need to respond to these offers as it automatically rejects them.

Way to derail the thread.

 

[phillyfan0417]

Wow... makes me wonder if he was telling me the truth when we did a transaction. When 2010 bowman came out, he was selling his case in the transaction board. He had a price of 1200 for a jumbo case, and at the time it was almost exploading to the 1600 range. Anyway i sent him a check for 1200. Couple days later he tells me his car got busted into and they stole the case! Of course i believed him and felt bad. I told him i was gonna put a hold on the check that i sent him because its alot of money and he didnt have the case anymore. Well he pms me back and says you dont have to do that, im an honest guy and i told you what happen, i take offense to that. I told him im just looking out for myself. Tom didnt scam me, with all these stories i just wouldnt liked to have been lied to. (Jumbos were selling at 2200 by the time i got my check back)

Fits his MO. Sounds like you were extremely lucky. Also sounds like you "loaned" him $1200 bucks for him to use for something else and then pay you back after he made a profit off of whatever it was. I have seen that scam a million times.

Sounds to me like he never cashed the checked and the OP put a "HOLD" on the check and then Tom sent the check back to the OP not cashed. So i don't think the OP "LOANED" him any money in this "scam" you've seen a million times.

If anything, Toms just guilty of not selling a product for the agreed upon price. But even saying that is just pure speculation because i don't know if his car was really broken into or not.

If Tom wanted to scam, he could have Easily just cashed the OP's $1200 check and went on his way, instead of sending the check back not cashed.

Please dont bring common sense and reading comprehension into this thread for titans.



This threads proves a couple of things...

One, some members just love to find fires to stoke, yes titans, thats meant directly at you.


The other thing and the most important, you can not outrun your reputation. If you're history has bad business practices or deception, it will catch up to you. This is a perfect example of that particular lesson.

 

[Erich]

This thread makes me wonder if there are any other members that the MODS know about that are a potential problem.

 

[phillyfan0417]

This thread makes me wonder if there are any other members that the MODS know about that are a potential problem.

Actually, i dont believe this was a secret to many on this board.


But since you asked the question, I dont think I know of any...

 

[cgilmo]

This thread makes me wonder if there are any other members that the MODS know about that are a potential problem.

Everyone is a potential problem.