St. Mary's among the NCAA snubs

[Wes]

26-6 not good enough huh?

 

[aw00d05]

i thought they should've been in instead of wisconsin.

 

[Wes]

i thought they should've been in instead of wisconsin.

add arizona to that list for me

 

[coltsfan23]

Yep, I'd rather have St. Mary's in over both Arizona and Wisconsin.

 

[KandKCards]

i thought they should've been in instead of wisconsin.

I had been telling people Wisconsin is a lot less of a lock than people think. I was right...they were the second to last team in, just ahead of Arizona.
I'm not sure St. Mary's is a snub. I had them in, and I wanted them in to see if Mills could go Steph Curry on us, but they were a flawed team. It's funny to hear all the talk about expanding the field when, IMO, not even the last few teams in each year are deserving. St. Mary's wasn't that deserving, but neither were the teams that got in (Arizona, Wisc)

 

[Wes]

i thought they should've been in instead of wisconsin.

I had been telling people Wisconsin is a lot less of a lock than people think. I was right...they were the second to last team in, just ahead of Arizona.
I'm not sure St. Mary's is a snub. I had them in, and I wanted them in to see if Mills could go Steph Curry on us, but they were a flawed team. It's funny to hear all the talk about expanding the field when, IMO, not even the last few teams in each year are deserving. St. Mary's wasn't that deserving, but neither were the teams that got in (Arizona, Wisc)

26-6 and missing your best player for most of the year is a pretty good season in any sport to me.

 

[aw00d05]

i thought they should've been in instead of wisconsin.

add arizona to that list for me

Atleast Zona beat good teams (Kansas, UCLA, Washington, Zaga) Wisconsin's best win was Texas.

 

[andyduke86]

Midmajor teams don't deserve to be in unless they either win their conference or actually play and beat a few half way decent opponents. There's a good reason big conference schools like AZ and Maryland get the benefit of the doubt. I really hate the complaining by the small teams when they don't get in. Schedule some good opponents or just win.

 

[aw00d05]

Midmajor teams don't deserve to be in unless they either win their conference or actually play and beat a few half way decent opponents. There's a good reason big conference schools like AZ and Maryland get the benefit of the doubt. I really hate the complaining by the small teams when they don't get in. Schedule some good opponents or just win.

AKA Gonzaga...

 

[Wes]

Midmajor teams don't deserve to be in unless they either win their conference or actually play and beat a few half way decent opponents. There's a good reason big conference schools like AZ and Maryland get the benefit of the doubt. I really hate the complaining by the small teams when they don't get in. Schedule some good opponents or just win.

St. Mary's RPI was better than Arizona and a number of other teams that made it in.

 

[BGSRCGUY]

I'd for sure rather have St.Mary's over Wisconsin, not Zona though. Zona seems like a team that could make a run, I don't see that for St.Mary's(if they had made it) or Wisconsin.

 

[aw00d05]

I'd for sure rather have St.Mary's over Wisconsin, not Zona though. Zona seems like a team that could make a run, I don't see that for St.Mary's(if they had made it) or Wisconsin.

That's how I see it as well, except that I thought Mary's could've made a run IF Mills played well which he hasn't since coming back though.

 

[Hallsgator]

Midmajor teams don't deserve to be in unless they either win their conference or actually play and beat a few half way decent opponents. There's a good reason big conference schools like AZ and Maryland get the benefit of the doubt. I really hate the complaining by the small teams when they don't get in. Schedule some good opponents or just win.

St. Mary's RPI was better than Arizona and a number of other teams that made it in.

Too bad the RPI means nothing during the selections.

 

[KandKCards]

i thought they should've been in instead of wisconsin.

I had been telling people Wisconsin is a lot less of a lock than people think. I was right...they were the second to last team in, just ahead of Arizona.
I'm not sure St. Mary's is a snub. I had them in, and I wanted them in to see if Mills could go Steph Curry on us, but they were a flawed team. It's funny to hear all the talk about expanding the field when, IMO, not even the last few teams in each year are deserving. St. Mary's wasn't that deserving, but neither were the teams that got in (Arizona, Wisc)

26-6 and missing your best player for most of the year is a pretty good season in any sport to me.

How many tournament teams did they beat? Hell, how many did they play?? They played two, and beat one. That one was Utah State...not exactly Duke or UNC. Coaches make their schedules with RPI in mind, trying to make it as easy as possible while still having a good RPI. Their RPI looks good because they played a lot of road games...but most of them were road games where they should have been heavily favored anyway. They only played 7 top 100 games, and lost 4 of them. Sorry, in no way do those numbers tell me they are deserving of being considered one of the top 65 teams in the nation.

 

[Brad]

I say this when it comes to football as well: If you want real consideration, play in a real conference. Maybe they did get screwed, but their schedule does not help them too much.

 

[Wes]

I say this when it comes to football as well: If you want real consideration, play in a real conference. Maybe they did get screwed, but their schedule does not help them too much.

Some teams don't have that option - Utah and BYU, for example, were rejected as Pac-10 members in favor of Oregon and OSU back in the day. I'm sure they would want to be a part of a Pac-12 if they could.

 

[Invest4thefuture]

couldnt agree more about st mary's... and boy I loved that team. i did a little write-up in my blog about them and would appreciate it if you guys checked it out... www.thebracketbusters.com

 

[DRav87]

For anyone saying Wisconsin didn't deserve to make it, you are wrong. They simply played a tougher schedule than St. Mary's.

St. Mary's had the 149th toughest schedule, Wisconsin had the 16th toughest schedule.

That right there is the reason St. Mary's is out and Wisconsin is in.

So for those who are all upset that St. Mary's got left out need to get over it, they didn't deserve it with the schedule they played.

 

[Wes]

For anyone saying Wisconsin didn't deserve to make it, you are wrong. They simply played a tougher schedule than St. Mary's.

St. Mary's had the 149th toughest schedule, Wisconsin had the 16th toughest schedule.

That right there is the reason St. Mary's is out and Wisconsin is in.

So for those who are all upset that St. Mary's got left out need to get over it, they didn't deserve it with the schedule they played.

It shouldn't just be strength of schedule but also how you did against that schedule. 26-6 against a lousy schedule is at least the 65th best season of any team in the nation.

 

[UMich92]

I think both St. Mary's and San Diego St. were more deserving of Arizona. The problem with most mid-majors is that they can't get any of the big time schools to schedule a home-and-home series. For the most part, the big time programs just don't want to risk a loss to a mid-major.

If I were to tweak the criteria slightly, I would say that a team must be .500 team in their conference to qualify for the NCAA tournament. This year that would eliminate Maryland. Though I think they were more deserving than Arizona, I think teams should at least be .500 in conference.

Alex