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Ryan is partly responsible for making the best rangers team in over a decade. I think he would be considered the most most known ranger of all time.
 

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I just updated a few teams but it seems I haven't been sold on some teams.

I like Seaver as Mr. Met. Anyone else?
I need more info on the Astros. Ryan, Biggio and Bagwell are equal to me.
Bluejays?
A lot of talk about the Rangers but no confimation yet.
A "true" baseball team like the Dodgers doesn't have an icon (Besides Vin Scully)? We're limiting this list to players.
More Rays arguments. I was originally going to put down Crawford but I thought I would be hounded by Longoria fans. I'm still leaning Crawford.
Need more input on Nationals and Diamondbacks.
No clear cut favorite for the Angels either?
2 votes for Joe Carter for Jays. Anyone else?
Big Hurt and Shoeless Joe have made White Sox list. Who will it be?
 

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If you're going just on the current Nationals, I'd say Zimmerman.

If you're going to add the Expos/Senators/whoever for whatever reason, obviously there are more deserving.

#1 pick turning into a Superstar. Huge fan favorite.

Nobody they've drafted is bigger yet (Strasburg aside). And only other big names they've gotten have been Dunn and Pudge.
 

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Add a few more

Dodgers- Jackie Robinson. I can understand a case for Duke, Koufax or Drysdale.
Astros - Biggio. Cases can be made for Bagwell and Ryan but I pick Biggio since he is home grown. I know there were some bad feelings when Ryan left.
Mets - Seaver, no question.
Rays - Carl Crawford.
Jays - Halladay.
Nationals - If you consider them the old Senators(which I do), Frank Howard. If you consider them Expos, Vlad.
White Sox - Frank Thomas.
 

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DWright5 said:
If you're going just on the current Nationals, I'd say Zimmerman.

If you're going to add the Expos/Senators/whoever for whatever reason, obviously there are more deserving.

#1 pick turning into a Superstar. Huge fan favorite.

Nobody they've drafted is bigger yet (Strasburg aside). And only other big names they've gotten have been Dunn and Pudge.


The senators became the rangers and the twins, not the expos. Expos had nothing to do with the franchise
 

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I'd lean Frank Thomas for the White Sox. As for the Bluejays, yeah Joe Carter may hold their biggest moment in franchise history but I still think of guys like Tony Fernandez, Robbie Alomar
 

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bouwob said:
DWright5 said:
If you're going just on the current Nationals, I'd say Zimmerman.

If you're going to add the Expos/Senators/whoever for whatever reason, obviously there are more deserving.

#1 pick turning into a Superstar. Huge fan favorite.

Nobody they've drafted is bigger yet (Strasburg aside). And only other big names they've gotten have been Dunn and Pudge.


The senators became the rangers and the twins, not the expos. Expos had nothing to do with the franchise

I personally understand all that.

But someone already put Walter Johnson up for the Nats, so I was trying to be clear on what was being asked.

If I'm reading correctly what is being asked, I'd go by just the current incarnations of all the teams.
 

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It's super interesting to see what people put Nolan Ryan down for. If anything he should be there as an Angel. His most dominating seasons certainly were with California.

I can see the argument for the Rangers as he is the face there now, but you can certainly make cases for the Angels and Astros.
 

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Brewer Andy said:
I'd lean Frank Thomas for the White Sox. As for the Bluejays, yeah Joe Carter may hold their biggest moment in franchise history but I still think of guys like Tony Fernandez, Robbie Alomar


I would list joe jackson for the white sox.
 

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Astros its hands down Bagwell/Biggio with both being totally equal.
 

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You've forgotten about Rod Carew with the Angels. The Nationals/Expos would be Gary Carter. George Bell deserves some love for the Blue Jays. He was their key player throughout the 80s. Joe Carter played on numerous teams and was only a Blue Jay for a short time.
 

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James52411 said:
The Nationals/Expos would be Gary Carter.

Andre Dawson is right up with Carter as well. Really a flip of the coin imo.


Blue Jays is interesting because imo there isn't just one player that stands out way above the others. They've had several players that really could be considered the face of the franchise all time. Joe Carter? Tony Fernandez? George Bell? Fred McGriff? Kelly Gruber? Dave Stieb? Robbie Alomar? Halladay?
 

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As a lifelong Jays fan, there's no doubt in my mind that Dave Stieb is the answer here.
 

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cbrandtw said:
So I thought this would be fun. I know there may some arguing between members but let's try and make this civilized. Name the ONE player (past or present) that is/was that teams player. Sort of like when you think of that team this ONE person IS that team. We'll keep it to todays teams but I may forget a franchise moving from place to place.

I am going to fill in some no brainers (some of which I will forget) and let the arguments begin. Once opinions are made I'll fill in the other teams. So let the arguments begin.

New York Yankees-Babe Ruth
Tampa Bay Rays-
Boston Red Sox-Ted Williams
Toronto Blue Jays-
Baltimore Orioles-Cal Ripken Jr.

Minnesota Twins-Kirby Puckett
Chicago White Sox-Joe Jackson
Detroit Tigers-Ty Cobb
Kansas City Royals-George Brett
Cleveland Indians-Bob Feller

Texas Rangers-Nolan Ryan
LA Angels-Nolan Ryan
Oakland A's-Rickey Henderson
Seattle Mariners-Ken Griffey Jr.

Atlanta Braves-Hank Aaron
Philadelphia Phillies-Mike Schmidt
Florida Marlins-Jeff Conine
New York Mets-Tom Seaver
Washington Nationals-Ryan Zimmerman

Cincinnati Reds-Pete Rose
St. Louis Cardinals-Stan Musial
Houston Astros-Nolan Ryan
Milwaukee Brewers-Robin Yount
Chicago Cubs-Ernie Banks
Pittsburgh Pirates-Roberto Clemente

San Diego Padres-Tony Gwynn
San Francisco Giants-Willie Mays
Colorado Rockies-Todd Helton
Los Angeles Dodgers-Jackie Robinaon
Arizona Diamondbacks-Randy Johnson
 

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bouwob said:
Ryan is partly responsible for making the best rangers team in over a decade. I think he would be considered the most most known ranger of all time.

While I agree that Ryan is probably the most "known" Ranger of all time (and I love Ryan by the way), that was not what this thread is referring to. It is to identigy the player (not owner) who most embodies the franchise. The Rangers never even went to the postseason with Ryan. That is why I have to say it is a tossup between Juan Gonzalez and Ivan Rodriguez.

Although in a couple of more years, the answer could easily change to Michael Young.
 

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Blue Jays- Roy Halleday with Fred McGriff second
Nationals-Ryan Zimmerman
White Sox-Frank Thomas
Houston Astros- Craig Biggio or Jeff Bagwell
 

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braden said:
As a lifelong Jays fan, there's no doubt in my mind that Dave Stieb is the answer here.


hes one of the first that popped into my head as well.
 

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Twins- Mauer. I love Puckett, but Mauer has already reached iconic status in the state of Minnesota.
 

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Mozzie22 said:
UMich92 said:
gvsu96 said:
Detroit Tigers-[strike:2ofx4bnd]Ty Cobb[/strike:2ofx4bnd] Al Kaline

As a lifelong Tigers fan, I wholeheartedly agree.

I can appreciate you guys are true fans but there is no way Cobb is not the Tigers. Any time you play that long for a team and are that utterly dominating/game changing you have got to get the nod. Kaline was fantastic, though.

I'm not sure it matters that Cobb was obviously the best player in the team history. I'd also say Kaline might be the face of the team. Although, it might just be that no one alive remembers Cobb.
 

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