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I guess I'm completely shocked that seemingly half of the posters in this thread feel that it is perfectly acceptable to just flog and beat down a clearly defeated opponent...in amateur sports.

It just doesn't make sense. I grew up in an incredibly competitive household, played for incredibly competitive teams through college, coached competitive teams...and never would I have condoned the charades that seemed to go on at this game.

It's just completely bizarre to me.
 

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Adamsince1981 said:
I'll throw this out there:

How many times have you seen or heard of a player getting hurt late in a game and people asking, "What was he/she even doing on the field?"
Do you think that is a powerful YEEHAWW-Woohoo statement?

It doesn't exactly have much to do with the subject now does it?

Here's something that I'll throw out there.... Why in the frack didn't the opposing team just walk off the court? Hmm? Why didn't the other team just wave the white flag? Were there guns aimed aimed at them? The subject is the losing team's feelings... I mean that is why the winning team is apologizing, really. The person who needs to apologize is the person who told the losing team to play basketball.
 

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Adamsince1981 said:
MattinglyAlexander said:
how about coaches just start telling athletes not to play so hard? "You go out there and give it , ohh I dunno, 25%!!! That way, there's no chance you'll hurt anyone's feelings."

No one has said that players shouldn't try hard or to play at a certain %. There are simply certain steps that a team who is blowing out another team can take that will lead to a win that includes sportsmanship.

Maybe it is harder to understand than I think it is.

and yes, it is exactly what you're saying. You're saying if you're too good...or have built a big lead, then you should stop playing at your full potential in order to save someone's feelings. Sportsmanship is kicking arse and then shaking your opponents hand. Sometimes even telling them, "Good game." even though it wasn't a good game for them. Maybe even offering some advice.

The true insult is laying down on them...essentially "quitting" because they suck so bad.

No hard feelings Adam, but I quit and GOOD GAME. :D ;) :)
 

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200lbhockeyplayer said:
I guess I'm completely shocked that seemingly half of the posters in this thread feel that it is perfectly acceptable to just flog and beat down a clearly defeated opponent...in amateur sports.

It just doesn't make sense. I grew up in an incredibly competitive household, played for incredibly competitive teams through college, coached competitive teams...and never would I have condoned the charades that seemed to go on at this game.

It's just completely bizarre to me.

I can't believe it either. It is bizarre and sad.
 

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IndyMann said:
braden said:
The 24 second shot clock was 22 seconds too long for them.
:lol:

braden said:
Aw, man, we got kill.......hey look at that cloud!
:lol: :lol:

justinmandawg said:
I bet the apology took forever since the girls had short attention spans.

We have some
exuse me I'm trying to..
ladies we have..
come on...
ok. we are here
please set back down so
we are...
seriously this is ridiculous
we're sor
COME ON SET DOWN
we're trying to

well you get the point
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Whoever can't find the humor here needs to get........Hey look, something shiny!!

I was cracking up, because I'm sure they've totally forgotten about this arse whoopin. All of you, thanked.
 

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Adamsince1981 said:
Yes, and she is at 37.5 weeks of carrying my first born son....so if she was ever in the mood to run up a score it would be now.

Oh and she makes a fine sammich, as she would call them.

Congratulations on that by the way.
 

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200lbhockeyplayer said:
I guess I'm completely shocked that seemingly half of the posters in this thread feel that it is perfectly acceptable to just flog and beat down a clearly defeated opponent...in amateur sports.

It just doesn't make sense. I grew up in an incredibly competitive household, played for incredibly competitive teams through college, coached competitive teams...and never would I have condoned the charades that seemed to go on at this game.

It's just completely bizarre to me.
If they want to play in a competition they should realize that losing like this is a risk they take. They are smart enough to know their skill level compared to the other teams, and if they are not good enough to play them, which they clearly aren't, then they should not be playing them in the first place. The team took the game to their advantage and obviously played their best, who can blame someone for that?
 
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In a MLB game is it OK to steal a 3rd base when your up by 13 runs???
If a MLB pitcher is throwing a perfect game in the 9th and you bunt for a hit is it OK?? (I remember a manager throwing a fit when an opposing player did it against his team).
NFL game and your up by 40 points in the 4th quarter with 5 seconds left and your on the opposing teams 3 yard line, do you call a run for a touchdown?

Sportsmanship......plain and simple..... ;)
 

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HAHAHAHAHA :lol: :lol: :lol:

Dude you are the ultimate provocateur.

justinmandawg said:
It also was a girl's sport. They should just be happy we let them play in the first place. They should be in home ec learning how to make a sandwich.
 

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I've won 77-0 on Techno Super Bowl before and I didn't apologize to the computer...
 

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this is perfectly acceptable, who in blue hell wants to get no hit?

AMAZIN HOF COLLECTOR said:
In a MLB game is it OK to steal a 3rd base when your up by 13 runs???
If a MLB pitcher is throwing a perfect game in the 9th and you bunt for a hit is it OK?? (I remember a manager throwing a fit when an opposing player did it against his team).
NFL game and your up by 40 points in the 4th quarter with 5 seconds left and your on the opposing teams 3 yard line, do you call a run for a touchdown?

Sportsmanship......plain and simple..... ;)
 

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I didn't read all of this, so if I'm re-stating something, I apologize.

Yesterday, our girls' middle school team played another team of "middle school" kids, but the visiting team was made up of mostly 5th and 6th graders, against our 7th and 8th graders. We're not a great team, but the sheer difference in size was enough to make it a blowout. We won 51-7, and the coach was constantly asking me how to keep it from being an embarrassment - it could have been 100-3 very, very easily. You put the bench in, you make them pass 5 times before a shot, and keep your hands down on defense, but play positionally with your feet, and you can get through a game like that, making your team get something out of it (passing and defense fundamentals), and not completely demoralize the other side.

I don't agree with the apology/forfeit nonsense, but to say there's no way to control the game is ridiculous.

By the way, the other school had a 4'6" point guard (5th grader) that played with more heart than anyone on my boys' team (or their boys' team). Even getting blown out, she was an absolute marvel to watch.
 

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the players on team 0 werent the ones complaining it was the parents and administration. to me them complaining does more negative teaching than losing by 100. now those same girls are news because they couldnt compete and the country feels sorry for them. team 0's coach has said the excitement in the girls eyes when they scored 8 in their next game was encouraging. if you field a team that has players that have never played before or wouldnt make a team anywhere else then you cannot complain if you are not competitive and lose by 25 or 225.

take away the sports aspect of this story. lets say point guard from team 0 is taken from her class which teaches to her attention disorder and placed in a general math class with point guard from team 100. the teacher issues at test with the same 50 questions for both. point guard from team 0 gets 0 right and point guard from team 100 gets all 50 right. do you punish point guard from team 100 and ask her to abandon her grade? then give point guard 0 a better grade because it wasnt a fair exam? no fracking way. if the students playing level is less of their competition then they should be moved to a different conference or move to an intramural league. the one thing you dont do is cancel the rest of your season and say "to hell with it" unless you want your team that didnt quit to start quiting....

i must agree that this problem could have been avoided if the game was never scheduled.
 

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My one issue with the winning team is that the article says they continue to full-court press. That is ridiculous. At some point, say 30-0 for example, you call off the full-court press and just play garden variety half-court D.

Alex
 

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UMich92 said:
My one issue with the winning team is that the article says they continue to full-court press. That is ridiculous. At some point, say 30-0 for example, you call off the full-court press and just play garden variety half-court D.

Alex

I missed that in the article; I agree. That's the FIRST thing you back off with. If it were to ever be a close game, you know you can always go back to it.
 

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Here is what I don't understand, aren't we taught from a young age that it is survival of the fittest? Best "man" wins (or woman)? Do your best? Be the best? Get out there, kick azz and take names? etc, etc? Then, do we not teach the SAME thing to our kids?
Well, isn't that what these HIGH SCHOOL girls did? Do their best? Go out there and kick some azz? As some previous posts have said, we don't know all the facts! BUT, as 99% of parents do, they tell their kids to do their best, stick it to the opponent and really lay it on them. That is what these girls did. They won their game. It is DEFINITELY not the girls fault for doing their best! If the score was what, 100-50 or 100-80 or if the other team had even put TWO points on the board then I'm sure this discussion would not be nearly as severe.
Funny, we normally applaud a shutout or scoreless game, but here it gets flamed? I understand pro sports is different than HS, but isn't that what little league/HS/College leads up to? Wouldn't you want to go to your kids' game and see them beat another team by a shutout? Kind of cool to see that. It's part of life and part of sports.
And yes, this is a PC, B.S. matter. Too many people have to look out for other people when those people don't even care to look out for themselves.
 

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SeattlefantillIdie said:
Here is what I don't understand, aren't we taught from a young age that it is survival of the fittest? Best "man" wins (or woman)? Do your best? Be the best? Get out there, kick azz and take names? etc, etc? Then, do we not teach the SAME thing to our kids?
Well, isn't that what these HIGH SCHOOL girls did? Do their best? Go out there and kick some azz? As some previous posts have said, we don't know all the facts! BUT, as 99% of parents do, they tell their kids to do their best, stick it to the opponent and really lay it on them. That is what these girls did. They won their game. It is DEFINITELY not the girls fault for doing their best! If the score was what, 100-50 or 100-80 or if the other team had even put TWO points on the board then I'm sure this discussion would not be nearly as severe.
Funny, we normally applaud a shutout or scoreless game, but here it gets flamed? I understand pro sports is different than HS, but isn't that what little league/HS/College leads up to? Wouldn't you want to go to your kids' game and see them beat another team by a shutout? Kind of cool to see that. It's part of life and part of sports.
And yes, this is a PC, B.S. matter. Too many people have to look out for other people when those people don't even care to look out for themselves.
To me, this is just another example of the next "Me Me Me" generation.

Most young athletes are also taught sportsmanship.

And again...I have no problem with the players...however my problem is with the coaches and fans cheering and revving the team to continue to bludgeon the clearly defeated team. Is there "glory" in humiliating someone who clearly is not the same skill level? Is there "pride" in beating someone already knocked out? Seriously.

A win is a win...100-0, 75-0, 50-48 it counts the same. And yes, I believe players should always play to win, but when the outcome is so obvious, play for honor and respect. As a coach, there is not a single thing that is learned in a blow-out of another team unless you work on specific things, passing, etc...

And no, working on a full court press against statues doesn't count.
 

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200lbhockeyplayer said:
SeattlefantillIdie said:
Here is what I don't understand, aren't we taught from a young age that it is survival of the fittest? Best "man" wins (or woman)? Do your best? Be the best? Get out there, kick azz and take names? etc, etc? Then, do we not teach the SAME thing to our kids?
Well, isn't that what these HIGH SCHOOL girls did? Do their best? Go out there and kick some azz? As some previous posts have said, we don't know all the facts! BUT, as 99% of parents do, they tell their kids to do their best, stick it to the opponent and really lay it on them. That is what these girls did. They won their game. It is DEFINITELY not the girls fault for doing their best! If the score was what, 100-50 or 100-80 or if the other team had even put TWO points on the board then I'm sure this discussion would not be nearly as severe.
Funny, we normally applaud a shutout or scoreless game, but here it gets flamed? I understand pro sports is different than HS, but isn't that what little league/HS/College leads up to? Wouldn't you want to go to your kids' game and see them beat another team by a shutout? Kind of cool to see that. It's part of life and part of sports.
And yes, this is a PC, B.S. matter. Too many people have to look out for other people when those people don't even care to look out for themselves.


To me, this is just another example of the next "Me Me Me" generation.-- I agree

Most young athletes are also taught sportsmanship.

And again...I have no problem with the players...however my problem is with the coaches and fans cheering and revving the team to continue to bludgeon the clearly defeated team. Is there "glory" in humiliating someone who clearly is not the same skill level? Is there "pride" in beating someone already knocked out? Seriously.

A win is a win...100-0, 75-0, 50-48 it counts the same. And yes, I believe players should always play to win, but when the outcome is so obvious, play for honor and respect. As a coach, there is not a single thing that is learned in a blow-out of another team unless you work on specific things, passing, etc...

And no, working on a full court press against statues doesn't count.

I was born in September of 1981 so that makes still fairly young compared to a lot of others (I assume) on this board and you are correct, I have noticed that my generation is pretty me, me, me. I can not argue that fact AT ALL! And I also agree that this game should have never been played in the first place, but it did happen and I just don't agree with having to apologize for a game... I would never, NEVER ask any one of my 3 kids to apologize for winning a game, no matter what the score is. I would ask they apologize for hitting a kid or being completely rude when it is uncalled for, but to play the game, no.
 

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