The final word on the 2010 Bowman Wrapper Redemption

[bballcardkid]

This is AWESOME.

Black bordered, something I've been asking for forever, USA Chrome Autos.

Those are going to be huge.

 

[cmnkb8]

Darn it, I should have saved my wax money for this instead of blowing it on 4 cases of Topps Chrome after it tanked

 

[cgilmo]

ok, so who wants boxes?


I still have some left.

 

[crowTrobot]

What is the estimated amount of Hobby boxes produced?

109000

 

[Bob Loblaw]

ok, so who wants boxes?


I still have some left.

See your quote from Friday...

 

[Leaf]

Never mind.. Wool has been placed over eyes securely ... Bg

 

[bballcardkid]

What ever happened to truth in advertising?

IBL

 

[Bob Loblaw]

What ever happened to truth in advertising?

:benson: :benson: :benson: :benson: :benson: :benson: :benson: :benson: :benson:

 

[SportsCardMojo]

Has anyone done the math on this?

I'll give it a stab, feel free to correct me. (I'm not good with pack odds)

9113 cases = 109355 Boxes = 109355 potential redemption packs (I know this is unlikely...but just doing math)

37 USA Baseball Bowman Chrome Black border #25 = 925 (1:118)
5 Rookies & Prospects #'d 100 = 500 (1:218)
8 USA Buy backs #'d to 100 = 800 (1:136)

Of if you just combine them all together, the chance of hitting autos is 1:49 Redemption packs should yield an auto. Every 4 cases?

Of course, the chances get better if they aren't banking on that many redemptions. Let's assume they only make 3/4 of 1/2 of that. Geesh. I only opened 2...I better get 2 more.

 

[bballcardkid]

Has anyone done the math on this?

I'll give it a stab, feel free to correct me. (I'm not good with pack odds)

9113 cases = 109355 Boxes = 109355 potential redemption packs (I know this is unlikely...but just doing math)

37 USA Baseball Bowman Chrome Black border #25 = 925 (1:118)
5 Rookies & Prospects #'d 100 = 500 (1:218)
8 USA Buy backs #'d to 100 = 800 (1:136)

Of if you just combine them all together, the chance of hitting autos is 1:49 Redemption packs should yield an auto. Every 4 cases?

Of course, the chances get better if they aren't banking on that many redemptions. Let's assume they only make 3/4 of 1/2 of that. Geesh. I only opened 2...I better get 2 more.

Those were my initial numbers in JPs thread but I changed the total print run to reflect 10,000 cases rather than the 9113 cases I calculated, as that is apparently what NECPilgrims was told. After the modifications, I calculated 1:53 packs.

 

[coltsnsox07]

I went dumpster diving today at my LCS and retrieved the 2 big boxes of garbage(w/ wrappers) from when I opened all the BC last Wednesday, They're sitting in my garage 'airing out' right now. Topps is gonna love opening my mail , hah!

 

[ThoseBackPages]

Has anyone done the math on this?

I'll give it a stab, feel free to correct me. (I'm not good with pack odds)

9113 cases = 109355 Boxes = 109355 potential redemption packs (I know this is unlikely...but just doing math)

37 USA Baseball Bowman Chrome Black border #25 = 925 (1:118)
5 Rookies & Prospects #'d 100 = 500 (1:218)
8 USA Buy backs #'d to 100 = 800 (1:136)

Of if you just combine them all together, the chance of hitting autos is 1:49 Redemption packs should yield an auto. Every 4 cases?

Of course, the chances get better if they aren't banking on that many redemptions. Let's assume they only make 3/4 of 1/2 of that. Geesh. I only opened 2...I better get 2 more.

Those were my initial numbers in JPs thread but I changed the total print run to reflect 10,000 cases rather than the 9113 cases I calculated, as that is apparently what NECPilgrims was told. After the modifications, I calculated 1:53 packs.

How many RETAIL packs made?

 

[bballcardkid]

Has anyone done the math on this?

I'll give it a stab, feel free to correct me. (I'm not good with pack odds)

9113 cases = 109355 Boxes = 109355 potential redemption packs (I know this is unlikely...but just doing math)

37 USA Baseball Bowman Chrome Black border #25 = 925 (1:118)
5 Rookies & Prospects #'d 100 = 500 (1:218)
8 USA Buy backs #'d to 100 = 800 (1:136)

Of if you just combine them all together, the chance of hitting autos is 1:49 Redemption packs should yield an auto. Every 4 cases?

Of course, the chances get better if they aren't banking on that many redemptions. Let's assume they only make 3/4 of 1/2 of that. Geesh. I only opened 2...I better get 2 more.

Those were my initial numbers in JPs thread but I changed the total print run to reflect 10,000 cases rather than the 9113 cases I calculated, as that is apparently what NECPilgrims was told. After the modifications, I calculated 1:53 packs.

How many RETAIL packs made?

Those do not qualify for the redemption if I'm not mistaken.

 

[SportsCardMojo]

I went dumpster diving today at my LCS and retrieved the 2 big boxes of garbage(w/ wrappers) from when I opened all the BC last Wednesday, They're sitting in my garage 'airing out' right now. Topps is gonna love opening my mail , hah!

Hahaha...that's awesome. Hey man...you gotta do what you gotta do. I would have done the same thing. Props to you.

 

[ThoseBackPages]

Has anyone done the math on this?

I'll give it a stab, feel free to correct me. (I'm not good with pack odds)

9113 cases = 109355 Boxes = 109355 potential redemption packs (I know this is unlikely...but just doing math)

37 USA Baseball Bowman Chrome Black border #25 = 925 (1:118)
5 Rookies & Prospects #'d 100 = 500 (1:218)
8 USA Buy backs #'d to 100 = 800 (1:136)

Of if you just combine them all together, the chance of hitting autos is 1:49 Redemption packs should yield an auto. Every 4 cases?

Of course, the chances get better if they aren't banking on that many redemptions. Let's assume they only make 3/4 of 1/2 of that. Geesh. I only opened 2...I better get 2 more.

Those were my initial numbers in JPs thread but I changed the total print run to reflect 10,000 cases rather than the 9113 cases I calculated, as that is apparently what NECPilgrims was told. After the modifications, I calculated 1:53 packs.

How many RETAIL packs made?

Those do not qualify for the redemption if I'm not mistaken.

no they dont, was just curious if that math was done lol

 

[bballcardkid]

Has anyone done the math on this?

I'll give it a stab, feel free to correct me. (I'm not good with pack odds)

9113 cases = 109355 Boxes = 109355 potential redemption packs (I know this is unlikely...but just doing math)

37 USA Baseball Bowman Chrome Black border #25 = 925 (1:118)
5 Rookies & Prospects #'d 100 = 500 (1:218)
8 USA Buy backs #'d to 100 = 800 (1:136)

Of if you just combine them all together, the chance of hitting autos is 1:49 Redemption packs should yield an auto. Every 4 cases?

Of course, the chances get better if they aren't banking on that many redemptions. Let's assume they only make 3/4 of 1/2 of that. Geesh. I only opened 2...I better get 2 more.

Those were my initial numbers in JPs thread but I changed the total print run to reflect 10,000 cases rather than the 9113 cases I calculated, as that is apparently what NECPilgrims was told. After the modifications, I calculated 1:53 packs.

How many RETAIL packs made?

Those do not qualify for the redemption if I'm not mistaken.

no they dont, was just curious if that math was done lol

If you've got the odds I'll give it a try .

 

[ThoseBackPages]

[quote="sportscardfanatic":19feni5g]Has anyone done the math on this?

I'll give it a stab, feel free to correct me. (I'm not good with pack odds)

9113 cases = 109355 Boxes = 109355 potential redemption packs (I know this is unlikely...but just doing math)

37 USA Baseball Bowman Chrome Black border #25 = 925 (1:118)
5 Rookies & Prospects #'d 100 = 500 (1:218)
8 USA Buy backs #'d to 100 = 800 (1:136)

Of if you just combine them all together, the chance of hitting autos is 1:49 Redemption packs should yield an auto. Every 4 cases?

Of course, the chances get better if they aren't banking on that many redemptions. Let's assume they only make 3/4 of 1/2 of that. Geesh. I only opened 2...I better get 2 more.

Those were my initial numbers in JPs thread but I changed the total print run to reflect 10,000 cases rather than the 9113 cases I calculated, as that is apparently what NECPilgrims was told. After the modifications, I calculated 1:53 packs.

How many RETAIL packs made?

Those do not qualify for the redemption if I'm not mistaken.

no they dont, was just curious if that math was done lol

If you've got the odds I'll give it a try .[/quote:19feni5g]

Purple Ref 1:15

 

[rbadger]

Genius marketing by Topps!

People are complaining about the over production and the distributors are pissed with customers canceling orders so Topps says that they are inserting "buybacks" into cases to pump some energy into the upcoming release.

They knew damn well that most of the cases were already printed and packed out and sitting in a warehouse ready to be shipped.

Now, when people found out they lied about this, they "admit" their error and add these to the "redemption" program to energize the sale of cases before they hit rock bottom prices!

 

[SportsCardMojo]

Has anyone done the math on this?

I'll give it a stab, feel free to correct me. (I'm not good with pack odds)

9113 cases = 109355 Boxes = 109355 potential redemption packs (I know this is unlikely...but just doing math)

37 USA Baseball Bowman Chrome Black border #25 = 925 (1:118)
5 Rookies & Prospects #'d 100 = 500 (1:218)
8 USA Buy backs #'d to 100 = 800 (1:136)

Of if you just combine them all together, the chance of hitting autos is 1:49 Redemption packs should yield an auto. Every 4 cases?

Of course, the chances get better if they aren't banking on that many redemptions. Let's assume they only make 3/4 of 1/2 of that. Geesh. I only opened 2...I better get 2 more.

Those were my initial numbers in JPs thread but I changed the total print run to reflect 10,000 cases rather than the 9113 cases I calculated, as that is apparently what NECPilgrims was told. After the modifications, I calculated 1:53 packs.

Where are the other 887 cases coming from?10

I just did the math based on the pack odds. Honestly though, I wonder if Topps is making enough based on the production run. Or is it "while supplies last".

I guess we can only do a worst case scenario.

Here's another fun number. Bryce Harper will be 1:1093 redemption packs. Or 1 in every 93 cases redeemed.

Using 10,000 cases...that would be 1 in every 100 cases. Still easier than hitting a Super!

 

[mancini79]

There is no way Topps will produce enough packs for each box produced. Take in effect how many people bought single packs not in increments of 18, people that already threw out their packs, and product not opened by 3/11. I will say just over 1/2 of the wrappers will be redeemed. Topps released when the program expires, but not when they will be shipped. Topps may wait toward the end of the program to start packing out these redemptions. In short, Topps won't know how many packs to create til wrappers start coming in.