the recent post with the gehrig button card got me thinking

[isotopes4]

would you rather have a jeresy card, button, patch or auto? post what you picked, who your player would be & why you made the choice you made

 

[notoriousrmb]

I collect Ray Lankford, he has autographs and a bat card but since his cards ended in the early 2000's he never had a "high end" card made. So, I picked Patch since Ray has never had one before.

 

[isotopes4]

i would choose a button. they are much rarer than autos, especially of old players that didnt get a new jersey every week.

 

[bdangelo]

I picked auto, because it seems more of a personal thing than a piece of a uniform or patch. Player auto? I'd take Gehrig, or Mantle, or even Bobby Murcer.

Bob

 

[isotopes4]

I picked auto, because it seems more of a personal thing than a piece of a uniform or patch. Player auto? I'd take Gehrig, or Mantle, or even Bobby Murcer.

Bob

i respectfully disagree. player often signed a piece of paper for a fan, or a document of some sort, signing it $ forgetting about it. the button was buttoned & unbuttoned by the player on a regular basis. some players probably fidgeted with them as well. the buttons stuck with the player for longer amounts of time, especially for the guys you mentioned. that being said i wouldnt mind an auto of any of those guys either :lol:

 

[HoustonTeams4Me]

I picked auto, because it seems more of a personal thing than a piece of a uniform or patch. Player auto? I'd take Gehrig, or Mantle, or even Bobby Murcer.

Bob

i respectfully disagree. player often signed a piece of paper for a fan, or a document of some sort, signing it $ forgetting about it. the button was buttoned & unbuttoned by the player on a regular basis. some players probably fidgeted with them as well. the buttons stuck with the player for longer amounts of time, especially for the guys you mentioned. that being said i wouldnt mind an auto of any of those guys either :lol:

But in all honesty, how do we truly know that the button was ever on a jersey in which the said player wore??? I chose autograph because thier importance & desirability is worldwide, the meaning's behind autographs jump across cultural lines all over the world! If you get a button & show it to someone you would have to explain it's importance (& even then you would probably be looked at funny by your audience), whereas an autograph already has perceived importance, desirability, & value! Plus you can basically get conclusive judgement passed as to it's authenticity, where as it would be ALOT harder (if not impossible) to get authentification & certification that a jersey piece/patch/button was actually cut from a genuine jersey (& even then you would have a dandy of a time proving that it was actually a jersey that was worn by said player & not just an authentic jersey....& THEN how could you prove if it was used in a game?).... :lol:

 

[nevermore]

I picked auto, because it seems more of a personal thing than a piece of a uniform or patch. Player auto? I'd take Gehrig, or Mantle, or even Bobby Murcer.

Bob

i respectfully disagree. player often signed a piece of paper for a fan, or a document of some sort, signing it $ forgetting about it. the button was buttoned & unbuttoned by the player on a regular basis. some players probably fidgeted with them as well. the buttons stuck with the player for longer amounts of time, especially for the guys you mentioned. that being said i wouldnt mind an auto of any of those guys either :lol:

Yes, the button maybe rarer and used by the player, but I'd still take the auto of a deceased player like Gehrig, etc. Having a logoman patch or a bat barrel is one thing, but I personally don't see the extra appeal of having a button on a card.

I just don't value GU cards highly. I'd rather pay $100 for a crappy condition vintage card of Gehrig rather than get a GU. I feel an auto is a "complete" thing where as a swatch/button/bat is just a piece of the whole item. Just how I personally look at things.

 

[bdangelo]

I will agree with Houston and nevermore. The auto, even on a scrap of paper, came from the player himself. I prefer that.

Plus, if you read the backs of some of the GU cards, they are very vague about when said button, or uniform swatch or bat piece was used. Sometimes, you will get a GU of some Yankees player, for example, and the back notes that the GU came when he was with the Mariners (not a specific example here, but you get the idea).

And, if I can find a lousy looking vintage card of Gehrig that is only $100, you can bet I'd think hard about getting that.

Bob

 

[200lbhockeyplayer]

Autograph for me.

It's a lot easier for me to personally confirm what I believe as an authentic autograph than a game-used jersey swatch, patch or button. We know almost immediately the autograph screw-ups yet we'll never know a single one of the, surely more, rampant game-used screw-ups.

 

[aprimo]

I chose the button, of course of my favorite player, Craig Biggio. I like the buttons because they are some of the rarest cards of his. Also, I like the idea that he touched them. They seem a little more special than your average piece of jersey. I have to admit, the fakers have taken something away from my enjoyment of the patches. I love autos, but buttons are much more rare than Biggio's autos. What I would love the most though, would be a barrel. I don't have one of those yet.

 

[HoustonTeams4Me]

Autograph for me.

It's a lot easier for me to personally confirm what I believe as an authentic autograph than a game-used jersey swatch, patch or button. We know almost immediately the autograph screw-ups yet we'll never know a single one of the, surely more, rampant game-used screw-ups.

Exactly, & after hearing all of the horror stories & instances of "back-door shadiness" by these companies whom produce our trading card's (whose only allegiance is to thier bottom line's); whose to truly know if any of these were authentic??? :? Give me an auto anyday of the week!

 

[matchpenalty]

Auto, I don't trust game used cards at all. If I want I gamer, I want entire piece and to know that it's a legit. No one can authenticate a piece on a card.

 

[bodiaz]

If it is a current player, I take the button. Not many of them. If it is someone who died over 50 years ago, I will take the auto. Would love to own a Christy Matthewson auto much more than any button ever made!

 

[hive17]

NO BUTTON

The button is the one good thing from your list that I'm missing, so that's my choice.

 

[Big Mac McGwire]

365 days a year ill take an auto.

 

[ChasHawk]

Auto, I don't trust game used cards at all. If I want I gamer, I want entire piece and to know that it's a legit. No one can authenticate a piece on a card.

How can you say this with such utter certainty?

If what you say is true, do you have any idea of the myriad fraud charges
that could be brought about?

 

[200lbhockeyplayer]

If it is a current player, I take the button. Not many of them. If it is someone who died over 50 years ago, I will take the auto. Would love to own a Christy Matthewson auto much more than any button ever made!

I'm probably the only one on these boards who has owned a Mathewson autograph, and for me the decision was an easy one...I'd rather have the cash from a Mathewson autograph, than the autograph itself.

But I'd still rather have a Mathewson autograph than a button.

 

[IndyManning18]

Give me an auto or give me death!! Although the Gehrig button was great looking and the price was even better, I'd take an auto every day of the week. What would you rather have?? A Ruth Auto or a Ruth Button??

 

[JackLondon]

I picked auto, but with an asterisk: if it is a vintage, legendary player with a tough to find cut auto, I would always prefer an auto. However, if it were a current/recent player with a fair amount of autographs out there, I would choose button.

I have several autos of my favorite players Rod Carew and Jim Fregosi, but I would love to get a button of one of them!

 

[matchpenalty]

Auto, I don't trust game used cards at all. If I want I gamer, I want entire piece and to know that it's a legit. No one can authenticate a piece on a card.

How can you say this with such utter certainty?

If what you say is true, do you have any idea of the myriad fraud charges
that could be brought about?

It is pretty much impossible. A authenticator needs entire jersey, to see tagging, wear ect to see if a jersey has been game worn. Also to look and compare photos of player in the jersey for possible photomatches and pinstripe matching on those kinds of jerseys.
No way anyone could look at 1x1 inch piece from any jersey card and authenticate it. Look at even how some are worded on the back. If I collected jersey cards I'd want without a shadow of a doubt records kept and put on the back of the card of where the jersey came from. Who authenticated it. The MLB game used hologram serial # printed on the back of it if it came from MLB baseball. Also a picture of the jersey showing the tagging before it was butcherd.
The card companies like it just the way it is now. If they cared they would make the cards tamper proof. On their side is, while it's impossible to prove the small piece is really from a legit gamer, it's also impossible to prove it is not a gamer.