metallicalex777
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IMO I agree tighter moderation won't gain a ton of traffic, but I do feel it will keep others from leaving or have the feeling to post more.
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IMO I agree tighter moderation won't gain a ton of traffic, but I do feel it will keep others from leaving or have the feeling to post more.
How about if i told you that there have been many formerly active members who dont come here anymore because of the level of attacks on this board?
How about the fact that many new members get chased off by veterans who love to pick on the noobs?
I'm not the only person who has heard these stories and tighter moderation will not be with an iron fist since none of us moderate that way.
BunchOBull
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I mean, I get the connection...people leave due to an unwelcoming board presence, site gets less traffic.
That said, having been a member of many boards, the current level of moderation is rather high to begin with; what I mean by that is the moderators are quick to remove inappropriate material from the site and it doesn't sit for very long. That said, the rates of banishment aren't so high that the site is overwrought with "alt" accounts, with banned members masquerading as idiots. Normally, if we get new idiots here, they really are just new idiots.
That said, the most successful boards are policed much more loosely than FCB...however, they're not consistent in the way they police and it leaves an impression of "iron first" dictatorship. In the end, the level of personal attacks here seems much less threatening than other boards with greater traffic.
That said, having been a member of many boards, the current level of moderation is rather high to begin with; what I mean by that is the moderators are quick to remove inappropriate material from the site and it doesn't sit for very long. That said, the rates of banishment aren't so high that the site is overwrought with "alt" accounts, with banned members masquerading as idiots. Normally, if we get new idiots here, they really are just new idiots.
That said, the most successful boards are policed much more loosely than FCB...however, they're not consistent in the way they police and it leaves an impression of "iron first" dictatorship. In the end, the level of personal attacks here seems much less threatening than other boards with greater traffic.
Bob Loblaw
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Personal attacks and hostility CAUSED by a moderator.
Bob Loblaw
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And an example of too many chiefs, not enough indians.
metallicalex777
Super Moderator
That is true, and I would hope that a post/posts in regards to him were reported. Since I was not a mod during that time I have no clue if it was handled on the back end or not. I can guarantee if I see stuff like that, I have no problem moderating the situation regardless if the person is a mod or not. At the same time, not that it warranted the hostility, your first post in that thread could have easily be taken as "fishing" for something. Posting "Am I on Blowout?" had nothing to do with that topic or thread, and if it did you should simply mention why it does. Also is an example of someone pouncing on you by what seems to be because of what they may think of you from other posts in the past which should not happen when taken off topic. These are the kinds of situations that need tighter moderation.
Bob Loblaw
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I explained what I meant in a follow up post -- that this was an immature thread (ironically, which warranted moderator involvement) that was typical of one found on BO, and not found on FCB. Your moderator felt the need to threaten a ban for that.
And you (collectively) wonder why people left. When you (collectively) point a finger at a person, there are three pointing back at you. Remember that.
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Do I believe tighter moderation will help gain new traffic? No, that isn't what this is designed to do.
Do I believe that tighter moderation will help stimulate new conversations on the site? Yes, that is my primary goal.
What does tighter moderation mean? It means that flame wars will be nipped in the bud quicker, and that we will no longer sit back while the world burns on the baseball board. We will curb trolling when it gets blatant and out of control and we haven't done that in the past. Hell we have participated in the trolling in the past. No one is saying you can't get snarky. No one is saying you can't call someone out for being wrong. I am simply saying that you can't have these long drawn out user vs user feuds that spill over into threads and ruin them. That is what I will consider one of the most egregious offenses on this site behind ripping someone off or posting photos of yourself mid transaction with a ******.
It's true, there is nothing sexy to talk about in the hobby right now. But that in and of itself is a reason for tighter moderation. Every single legit hobby thread that gets posted needs to be allowed to thrive. It needs to be allowed to thrive the right way and not as some circus side show.
Train wreck threads are fun. They will still happen at times. It's my goal though to keep the trolling and the fighting out of legit hobby topics. This is what I mean when I say tighter moderation.
Do I believe that tighter moderation will help stimulate new conversations on the site? Yes, that is my primary goal.
What does tighter moderation mean? It means that flame wars will be nipped in the bud quicker, and that we will no longer sit back while the world burns on the baseball board. We will curb trolling when it gets blatant and out of control and we haven't done that in the past. Hell we have participated in the trolling in the past. No one is saying you can't get snarky. No one is saying you can't call someone out for being wrong. I am simply saying that you can't have these long drawn out user vs user feuds that spill over into threads and ruin them. That is what I will consider one of the most egregious offenses on this site behind ripping someone off or posting photos of yourself mid transaction with a ******.
It's true, there is nothing sexy to talk about in the hobby right now. But that in and of itself is a reason for tighter moderation. Every single legit hobby thread that gets posted needs to be allowed to thrive. It needs to be allowed to thrive the right way and not as some circus side show.
Train wreck threads are fun. They will still happen at times. It's my goal though to keep the trolling and the fighting out of legit hobby topics. This is what I mean when I say tighter moderation.
metallicalex777
Super Moderator
It is obvious that the mod in that thread at that time should have done the right thing and taken it to PMs as it was all personal content. At the same time, you expressed your opinions to that same person and did not express your true follow up post until your 6th post on the third page. Again, no reason why a mod should talk in that kind of context within a thread and should be candid discussion in a PM, but your first 5 posts also did not help the situation (not that you are in the expectation to do so) and they were equally as attacking with out any context to that thread until your 6th post.
Again, this is an example of where tighter moderation is certainly needed...including us as Mods. I would hope, and express again as cheesy as it may sound, to simply use the report post option and/or take any and all concerns to PMs (including Mods).
boy, am I glad I read this before submitting my last reply. Are post transaction pictures still allowed?
Oh please let this be true!
Bob Loblaw
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Moderate this response, stat!
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Sure, as long as you and it are clothed and not doing anything vulgar in the picture.
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read my post
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Bob Loblaw
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Still don't see why my quoted post wasn't moderated.
I don't know SCT or Tunahead, but Tunahead's post clearly violates the "don't be a dick" rule.
And also people love to bait...
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You want to fix this site how about most of the members STFU about bs focus on cards and actually do some trading and selling. The Transactions and other forums besides baseball might as well not exist.
Might as well call this FBS " freedom to bulls*** " forums.
I like to talk about bs like the rest but I think the focus on cards as gotten lost here. And constant complaining about Topps and how it is run has gotten very stale. You don't like what they do? Make a change make your own cards run your own company see how it goes.
Yeah they do some dumb stuff with redemptions. Here is a solution sell them, don't buy them or don't buy wax if you don't want them or have issues with Topps.
And if you can't take a little sarcasm by Internet tough guys then you have bigger issues.
The "Freedom" should be changed to just like every other board. Blowout Bump Nazis and Beckett organize nazis drive me nuts.
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Might as well call this FBS " freedom to bulls*** " forums.
I like to talk about bs like the rest but I think the focus on cards as gotten lost here. And constant complaining about Topps and how it is run has gotten very stale. You don't like what they do? Make a change make your own cards run your own company see how it goes.
Yeah they do some dumb stuff with redemptions. Here is a solution sell them, don't buy them or don't buy wax if you don't want them or have issues with Topps.
And if you can't take a little sarcasm by Internet tough guys then you have bigger issues.
The "Freedom" should be changed to just like every other board. Blowout Bump Nazis and Beckett organize nazis drive me nuts.
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