Theo is a cubbie!!

[sports-vault]

Will have more power with Cubs and has a 5 year, 15 million dollar contract.

 

[matchpenalty]

Don't forgot with Theo comes Carmine.

 

[All In Cards]

wonder if my buddy from school will follow Theo


Director of Amateur Scouting for Red Sox
Amiel Sawdaye

 

[jdsingar]

Wish he could take Lackey with him. That would be the best deal ever.

 

[Hallsgator]

Great move by Ricketts and the Cubs.

 

[Bosox3]

IMO....Great move by the Sox

 

[ballerskrip]

I find it hilarious how ENTITLED Red Sox fans are now. 10 years ago, you were as pathetic as the Cubs. Now that you have found success, with some help from Theo, you are uppity and arrogant. It is truly funny.

skrip

 

[olerud363]

I remember back when Theo first started as Boston's GM. Around the same time Dusty Baker's kid was bat boy for the Giants and there were a couple of incidents where he ran out to get the bat while the play was still unfolding and almost got run over near home plate. It started a big debate about how young is too young to be a bat boy. Anyways, the joke was that Epstein was going to be Boston's GM just until he was old enough to be the Giants' bat boy. :lol:

 

[Bosox3]

I find it hilarious how ENTITLED Red Sox fans are now. 10 years ago, you were as pathetic as the Cubs. Now that you have found success, with some help from Theo, you are uppity and arrogant. It is truly funny.

skrip

Don't have a clue what you mean by that but Its how the world is. Just wait..If the Cubs ever win anything..their fans will be the same way. Its sad but its just how it is.

 

[ballerskrip]

I find it hilarious how ENTITLED Red Sox fans are now. 10 years ago, you were as pathetic as the Cubs. Now that you have found success, with some help from Theo, you are uppity and arrogant. It is truly funny.

skrip

Don't have a clue what you mean by that but Its how the world is. Just wait..If the Cubs ever win anything..their fans will be the same way. Its sad but its just how it is.

I don't know what is tough to understand

Pre-Theo - Didn't win crap, fans were begging for a winner, were Yankees little stepchild, etc

THEO BRINGS 2 TITLES TO BOSTON

Post-Theo - We don't need Theo, we are better than that, uppity, arrogant, "red sox nation", "we are better than the yankees", etc etc

Win a bit and damn people get VERY arrogant.

skrip

 

[beefycheddar]

I find it hilarious how ENTITLED Red Sox fans are now. 10 years ago, you were as pathetic as the Cubs. Now that you have found success, with some help from Theo, you are uppity and arrogant. It is truly funny.

skrip

Realistic fans give some credit to Dan Duquette. Theo inherited Manny, Pedro, Varitek, Lowe, Youkilis, and Damon. That is a strong nucleus to build from. It's not like there was nothing there. It's documented that the Red Sox only signed Ortiz as a favor to Pedro Martinez and they got lucky there. Theo wanted Jeremy Giambi over Ortiz and coveted him. He did well with some signings like Millar, as well as Mueller. Anyone in Baseball would have taken Schilling in 2004.

He had a strong organization that just needed a little boost to get over the top, Francona held the team together and deserves as much credit as anyone.

If Theo can take the nucleus of the Cubs and win, then that is a tremendous accomplishment.

 

[BowmanChromeAddict]

I find it hilarious how ENTITLED Red Sox fans are now. 10 years ago, you were as pathetic as the Cubs. Now that you have found success, with some help from Theo, you are uppity and arrogant. It is truly funny.

skrip

Realistic fans give some credit to Dan Duquette. Theo inherited Manny, Pedro, Varitek, Lowe, Youkilis, and Damon. That is a strong nucleus to build from. It's not like there was nothing there. It's documented that the Red Sox only signed Ortiz as a favor to Pedro Martinez and they got lucky there. Theo wanted Jeremy Giambi over Ortiz and coveted him. He did well with some signings like Millar, as well as Mueller. Anyone in Baseball would have taken Schilling in 2004.

He had a strong organization that just needed a little boost to get over the top, Francona held the team together and deserves as much credit as anyone.

If Theo can take the nucleus of the Cubs and win, then that is a tremendous accomplishment.

Agreed. Theo is definitely not walking into the same situation with the Cubs. A few key pieces to build on, but no real nucleus. This is going to be a much bigger project. Will he have the same budget to work with?

 

[Bosox3]

I find it hilarious how ENTITLED Red Sox fans are now. 10 years ago, you were as pathetic as the Cubs. Now that you have found success, with some help from Theo, you are uppity and arrogant. It is truly funny.

skrip

Win a bit and damn people get VERY arrogant.

skrip

wow...shocking! Is this something new...with any winning team?
welcome to the world we live in.

 

[1st4040]

can they throw Lackey and JD Drew in the deal with Theo please???? He can take his man crushes with him and good luck in the future!

 

[beefycheddar]

can they throw Lackey and JD Drew in the deal with Theo please???? He can take his man crushes with him and good luck in the future!

Drew isn't a member of the Red Sox currently.

 

[ballerskrip]

I find it hilarious how ENTITLED Red Sox fans are now. 10 years ago, you were as pathetic as the Cubs. Now that you have found success, with some help from Theo, you are uppity and arrogant. It is truly funny.

skrip

Realistic fans give some credit to Dan Duquette. Theo inherited Manny, Pedro, Varitek, Lowe, Youkilis, and Damon. That is a strong nucleus to build from. It's not like there was nothing there. It's documented that the Red Sox only signed Ortiz as a favor to Pedro Martinez and they got lucky there. Theo wanted Jeremy Giambi over Ortiz and coveted him. He did well with some signings like Millar, as well as Mueller. Anyone in Baseball would have taken Schilling in 2004.

He had a strong organization that just needed a little boost to get over the top, Francona held the team together and deserves as much credit as anyone.

If Theo can take the nucleus of the Cubs and win, then that is a tremendous accomplishment.

Agreed. Theo is definitely not walking into the same situation with the Cubs. A few key pieces to build on, but no real nucleus. This is going to be a much bigger project. Will he have the same budget to work with?

I do agree that he had plenty to work with. There is credit to go around, no doubt about it, I agree. BUT, many GM's have a lot to work with. It certainly doesn't mean that a title is inevitable. The Red Sox had a lot to work with for years and never won a title. Same could be said for other teams like the Braves, Angels, Dodgers, on and on. People are also talking about the young men, like Cherington, Hoyer, etc. Were these people not hired by Theo? Any good boss surrounds himself with people SMARTER than himself. Not quite sure how you can fault him for that.

skrip

 

[beefycheddar]

I find it hilarious how ENTITLED Red Sox fans are now. 10 years ago, you were as pathetic as the Cubs. Now that you have found success, with some help from Theo, you are uppity and arrogant. It is truly funny.

skrip

Realistic fans give some credit to Dan Duquette. Theo inherited Manny, Pedro, Varitek, Lowe, Youkilis, and Damon. That is a strong nucleus to build from. It's not like there was nothing there. It's documented that the Red Sox only signed Ortiz as a favor to Pedro Martinez and they got lucky there. Theo wanted Jeremy Giambi over Ortiz and coveted him. He did well with some signings like Millar, as well as Mueller. Anyone in Baseball would have taken Schilling in 2004.

He had a strong organization that just needed a little boost to get over the top, Francona held the team together and deserves as much credit as anyone.

If Theo can take the nucleus of the Cubs and win, then that is a tremendous accomplishment.

Agreed. Theo is definitely not walking into the same situation with the Cubs. A few key pieces to build on, but no real nucleus. This is going to be a much bigger project. Will he have the same budget to work with?

I do agree that he had plenty to work with. There is credit to go around, no doubt about it, I agree. BUT, many GM's have a lot to work with. It certainly doesn't mean that a title is inevitable. The Red Sox had a lot to work with for years and never won a title. Same could be said for other teams like the Braves, Angels, Dodgers, on and on. People are also talking about the young men, like Cherington, Hoyer, etc. Were these people not hired by Theo? Any good boss surrounds himself with people SMARTER than himself. Not quite sure how you can fault him for that.

skrip

Again most of the people in the office were hired by Duquette. Theo, and Cherington were, and John Henry brought in Jed Hoyer when the ownership group took over.

 

[ballerskrip]

I find it hilarious how ENTITLED Red Sox fans are now. 10 years ago, you were as pathetic as the Cubs. Now that you have found success, with some help from Theo, you are uppity and arrogant. It is truly funny.

skrip

Realistic fans give some credit to Dan Duquette. Theo inherited Manny, Pedro, Varitek, Lowe, Youkilis, and Damon. That is a strong nucleus to build from. It's not like there was nothing there. It's documented that the Red Sox only signed Ortiz as a favor to Pedro Martinez and they got lucky there. Theo wanted Jeremy Giambi over Ortiz and coveted him. He did well with some signings like Millar, as well as Mueller. Anyone in Baseball would have taken Schilling in 2004.

He had a strong organization that just needed a little boost to get over the top, Francona held the team together and deserves as much credit as anyone.

If Theo can take the nucleus of the Cubs and win, then that is a tremendous accomplishment.

Agreed. Theo is definitely not walking into the same situation with the Cubs. A few key pieces to build on, but no real nucleus. This is going to be a much bigger project. Will he have the same budget to work with?

I do agree that he had plenty to work with. There is credit to go around, no doubt about it, I agree. BUT, many GM's have a lot to work with. It certainly doesn't mean that a title is inevitable. The Red Sox had a lot to work with for years and never won a title. Same could be said for other teams like the Braves, Angels, Dodgers, on and on. People are also talking about the young men, like Cherington, Hoyer, etc. Were these people not hired by Theo? Any good boss surrounds himself with people SMARTER than himself. Not quite sure how you can fault him for that.

skrip

Again most of the people in the office were hired by Duquette. Theo, and Cherington were, and John Henry brought in Jed Hoyer when the ownership group took over.

So Theo, as the GM, chose none of the people around him? Is that correct? I find that very hard to believe.

 

[beefycheddar]

[quote="ballerskrip":2ftazphr]I find it hilarious how ENTITLED Red Sox fans are now. 10 years ago, you were as pathetic as the Cubs. Now that you have found success, with some help from Theo, you are uppity and arrogant. It is truly funny.

skrip

Realistic fans give some credit to Dan Duquette. Theo inherited Manny, Pedro, Varitek, Lowe, Youkilis, and Damon. That is a strong nucleus to build from. It's not like there was nothing there. It's documented that the Red Sox only signed Ortiz as a favor to Pedro Martinez and they got lucky there. Theo wanted Jeremy Giambi over Ortiz and coveted him. He did well with some signings like Millar, as well as Mueller. Anyone in Baseball would have taken Schilling in 2004.

He had a strong organization that just needed a little boost to get over the top, Francona held the team together and deserves as much credit as anyone.

If Theo can take the nucleus of the Cubs and win, then that is a tremendous accomplishment.

Agreed. Theo is definitely not walking into the same situation with the Cubs. A few key pieces to build on, but no real nucleus. This is going to be a much bigger project. Will he have the same budget to work with?

I do agree that he had plenty to work with. There is credit to go around, no doubt about it, I agree. BUT, many GM's have a lot to work with. It certainly doesn't mean that a title is inevitable. The Red Sox had a lot to work with for years and never won a title. Same could be said for other teams like the Braves, Angels, Dodgers, on and on. People are also talking about the young men, like Cherington, Hoyer, etc. Were these people not hired by Theo? Any good boss surrounds himself with people SMARTER than himself. Not quite sure how you can fault him for that.

skrip

Again most of the people in the office were hired by Duquette. Theo, and Cherington were, and John Henry brought in Jed Hoyer when the ownership group took over.

So Theo, as the GM, chose none of the people around him? Is that correct? I find that very hard to believe.[/quote:2ftazphr]

He chose some around him but the main names that are referenced were with the organization before he was hired in late 2002. Hoyer and Cherington were the ones who brought in Beckett and Lowell. Amiel (Andrew's boy) Sawdaye was there before Theo was GM, and he is in charge of the draft now. You can find it hard to believe, but the top names through the team have been there before his tenure as GM.

 

[ballerskrip]

[quote="beefycheddar":c30eawc5][quote="ballerskrip":c30eawc5]I find it hilarious how ENTITLED Red Sox fans are now. 10 years ago, you were as pathetic as the Cubs. Now that you have found success, with some help from Theo, you are uppity and arrogant. It is truly funny.

skrip

Realistic fans give some credit to Dan Duquette. Theo inherited Manny, Pedro, Varitek, Lowe, Youkilis, and Damon. That is a strong nucleus to build from. It's not like there was nothing there. It's documented that the Red Sox only signed Ortiz as a favor to Pedro Martinez and they got lucky there. Theo wanted Jeremy Giambi over Ortiz and coveted him. He did well with some signings like Millar, as well as Mueller. Anyone in Baseball would have taken Schilling in 2004.

He had a strong organization that just needed a little boost to get over the top, Francona held the team together and deserves as much credit as anyone.

If Theo can take the nucleus of the Cubs and win, then that is a tremendous accomplishment.

Agreed. Theo is definitely not walking into the same situation with the Cubs. A few key pieces to build on, but no real nucleus. This is going to be a much bigger project. Will he have the same budget to work with?

I do agree that he had plenty to work with. There is credit to go around, no doubt about it, I agree. BUT, many GM's have a lot to work with. It certainly doesn't mean that a title is inevitable. The Red Sox had a lot to work with for years and never won a title. Same could be said for other teams like the Braves, Angels, Dodgers, on and on. People are also talking about the young men, like Cherington, Hoyer, etc. Were these people not hired by Theo? Any good boss surrounds himself with people SMARTER than himself. Not quite sure how you can fault him for that.

skrip

Again most of the people in the office were hired by Duquette. Theo, and Cherington were, and John Henry brought in Jed Hoyer when the ownership group took over.

So Theo, as the GM, chose none of the people around him? Is that correct? I find that very hard to believe.[/quote:c30eawc5]

He chose some around him but the main names that are referenced were with the organization before he was hired in late 2002. Hoyer and Cherington were the ones who brought in Beckett and Lowell. Amiel (Andrew's boy) Sawdaye was there before Theo was GM, and he is in charge of the draft now. You can find it hard to believe, but the top names through the team have been there before his tenure as GM.[/quote:c30eawc5]

Beefy, I believe. I guess I am more surprised than anything else. What is the story with when Theo left for a few months and the Hanley trade went down? Was he still actually in the mix? Or did the trade 100% go down wtihout any thoughts/consent/work done by THeo?

skrip