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baberuthfan

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Just wanted to know thoughts on this card. I read that Asa ( who graded this card) was precursor to psa

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If it's the real thing. It's worth big money. I would break the holder and send it to PSA to be sure. Try posting the card on the net54.com vintage card forum. There are a lot of people there that know tons about pre-war cards.
 

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There is natural reason to be cautious with something like this. So many questions as to why it would still be in a holder like that today though. Perhaps whomever owns it is not really a fan of grading. As someone who cares little to nothing about the grading world, but accepts that it is here to stay, I would want assurances first that this was in fact real if i were looking to obtain it. That holder/label alone in 2026 just screams "Red flag - beware" to most people, whether or not that is the case.
 

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Just wanted to know thoughts on this card. I read that Asa ( who graded this card) was precursor to psa

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ASA was Alan Hager's company and he was bought out by PSA. He patented most of the things like the slab design, 1-10 scale, and a few other things that PSA is known for. He is well known for overgrading cards which this one obviously was. That tear and paperloss is an instant 1 no matter which of the Big 3 you used now if you resubbed it. I've never known of any issues with him grading fakes so it is very likely authentic though. Last I knew he was still alive and kicking with a coin grading service though he has to be in his 80s by now.

There is natural reason to be cautious with something like this. So many questions as to why it would still be in a holder like that today though. Perhaps whomever owns it is not really a fan of grading. As someone who cares little to nothing about the grading world, but accepts that it is here to stay, I would want assurances first that this was in fact real if i were looking to obtain it. That holder/label alone in 2026 just screams "Red flag - beware" to most people, whether or not that is the case.

Could be something as simple as the owner of the card can't afford the fee to grade it with PSA. I'm sure it would be several thousand dollars to do so.
 

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I don't disagree that there could be a pile of reasons for the card to still be in this holder, but it doesn't bode well for buyer confidence and resale value in the current market. Lots of $ pumping into the card hobby now and a lot of people who don't really know what they are doing, relying heavily upon the reputation of the favored grading companies to provide them the confidence they need to spend 5-6+ figures on cards.

It's funnt to watch people converse, especially on facebook groups and in graded groups. A number of these people literally think every great card is graded and if one isn't, it's fake. I firmly believe there are vast treasures buried in collections that have yet to see the light of day that are raw and authentic and each time another find happens, people are beside themselves with shock that these cards can still exist.

i have a modest collection by any comparison to the typical large, high value collections that get showcased, but as I inch near 50 years of buying cards the only graded cards I own are those i purchased over the past several decades. those are not highly sought after graded cards either necessarily. They were just priced right for me to jump on them. No super high grades, ultra rare cards, etc.

When my collection becomes available, if showcased, there would be cards that people might immediately wonder why they were not graded and question their authenticity. No 52 Mantles or jordan RCs, but desirable cards with decent value that I just never wanted to have graded.
 

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