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Re: Topps Contracted ARTIST HOBRECHT - 3rd Post on Page 2

hofautos said:
grahamart said:
Pointillism is basically drawing in 100's to 1000's of little dots. I rather not comment on those who just print out photos and color them, to each is own. I just enjoy doing realistic drawings all freehand and in the Pointillism style. I also do drawings that are more basic and just outline, somewhat comic like. It really depends on how much time I have to work on a project. Heres a close up of some of my Pointillism artwork, sorry not baseball. Actually I have been so busy I still have blank cards we get as returns from the second series :)

So how do you paint dots?
Can you tell by a closeup of this how it was created, if it is "mixed media" or transfer, or ??
The artist assure me it is not transfer, but hasn't expanded beyond that. In hand, it is clear to me it isn't water colored with a brush, so I really have no clue?

He also said he would join us by week's end, but hasn't yet...still hoping.

Pointillism is not Mixed Media. My grandmother is an artist, so I've had a lot of exposure to the different artistic styles.

Pointillism is literally painting with dots. Instead of using lines to create edges, they just use the tip of the paintbrush (or whatever utensil they use with a point that leaves just a dot). To understand the advantage of this, you need to think about how colors interact. If you take two pieces of fairly translucent paper of differing colors and put one behind the other you will see that the paper seems to change colors where they cross. Basically think of elementary school when they taught you what happens when you mix blue and red. By pointing with dots, you force the eye to mix the colors without them actually mixing. By using such small dots, the eye can't capture the detail. So it fills in the gaps. Because the colors interact, you eye will perceive the mixed color instead of the colors actually presented.

A more familiar example would be collages. One of the members here has several images in his signature that makes one large picture out of hundreds of other pictures. It's a similar concept. Up close you can see the detailed pictures but as you move further away, you see less of the details and it makes a larger picture.

I hope this helped.

If at all interested in my grandmother's work, she is completely non-famous but she drew Captain Marvel in Canada during WWII because the US stopped exporting paper. So they'd get the story for the US and have to recreate it in Canada. She gifted this painting to me for Christmas in 2003. It is not malproportioned, I took the picture at an angle so it makes it look a little wonky.

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I just wish I had half her talent LOL

And finally a short defense of Mixed Media. It's not as easy as one might think. The projection system is mostly used by beginners to learn lines. Having base lines isn't really all that helpful because there is still plenty of room to eff up. I used this system when I was starting to get the basic lines for a Magritte copy. The top is the original, the bottom is my attempted recreation.

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As you can see, having the basic lines really isn't the key factor in that painting. But I will acknowledge that it is a tool used by those learning and I can't imagine a legitimate artist using a projection system unless they are just absolutely stumped by a specific line.
 

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And while I have to admit that I think most of the sketches suck, several posted in this thread are downright amazing.
 

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still confused about dot painting...i am sure there must be some tool to lay down dots, I am sure that where you see 200 dots per sq inch, and a 10x10 painting that someone didn't literally draw 20,000 dots???

just picked this guy up..

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for what it's worth, I have a "few" sketch cards in my sig -
 

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hofautos said:
still confused about dot painting...i am sure there must be some tool to lay down dots, I am sure that where you see 200 dots per sq inch, and a 10x10 painting that someone didn't literally draw 20,000 dots???

just picked this guy up..

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The "tool" is actually typically a pen Mike. Seriously.

It's basically a pen and ink variation of the expressionist style of painting in 'blots'.
 

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hofautos said:
still confused about dot painting...i am sure there must be some tool to lay down dots, I am sure that where you see 200 dots per sq inch, and a 10x10 painting that someone didn't literally draw 20,000 dots???

just picked this guy up..

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Yes it literally is 20,000 dots (most likely many, many, more). This was the style that I was "drawn" to (pun intended) & used in junior high on up through college! :D It is very time consuming but IMO leaves the artist VERY satisfied with the final product (it is really something else once completed). I used colored pen's & marker's (though the marker's ruin somewhat quickly as thier tip's are not made for the constant pressure/mashing movement). :D
 

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I just wanted to respond and say thank you to all of the positive and kind words regarding my work that has been posted on this thread. Hopefully more Topps artists will post and we can all hear how their work is done.

Also, as I stated in my last post…please feel free to ask me any questions you might have.

Dave
 

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I'm one of the "skeptics" I suppose... I own three of these, and have since let another pass on ebay...

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It makes me say things like "Sketches are not 1/1's" and "These are just traced by the artists." My bad!! I have picked up a few cool ones though, my favorites are by Brian Kong. Although I have to say I've seen a bunch of identicle sketches from him. I haven't scanned anything since my office turned into a nursery, so I don't have scans of these new sketches. :)
 

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^^i counted about 10 differences, although I agree they are remarkably similar...hard to believe they were entirely free-handed, although I believe "some" is transferred and "some" is free-handed in this case. I think every artist is slightly different in their methods. Hopefully the "cheap" artists will be weeded out by topps, and the cream will rise to the top. I noticed that Dick Perez is getting $400 plus on his 1/1's in A&G, and some artists are OBVIOUSLY getting more than others.
 

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RL24 said:
I'm one of the "skeptics" I suppose... I own three of these, and have since let another pass on ebay...

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It makes me say things like "Sketches are not 1/1's" and "These are just traced by the artists." My bad!! I have picked up a few cool ones though, my favorites are by Brian Kong. Although I have to say I've seen a bunch of identicle sketches from him. I haven't scanned anything since my office turned into a nursery, so I don't have scans of these new sketches. :)

There are major differences between those two. It's possible a tracer was used but I'd guess that the artist is just good at sketching general body shapes.
 

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