Travis Snider & Pablo Sandoval

[EricInCT]

Not selling or buying, just discussing:

On 4/16 Travis Snider was batting: .348 ; slugging percent .913; on base of .423
On 5/13 Travis Snider is now batting: .253 ; slugging percent .418; on base of .306

On 4/15 Pablo Sandoval was batting: .179; slugging percent .214; on base of .258
On 5/13 Pabo Sandoval is now batting: .303; slugging percent 487 ; on base of .346

These two sluggers are going in opposite directions but are stll incredibly young (21 and 22 years old) and are the cornerstone to the future for their respective teams.

What went right and went what wrong to create these drastic changes?

I hate Travis Snider's position in the lineup. I would bat him 7th or higher, even 8th, but definitely not 9th. I can't tell you how many times the person in front of him makes the last out of the inning with runners on base, it is sickening.

 

[boomo]

sandoval is a monster, snider is just the next jd drew.
i watched snider a lot at NH last year, he isnt the hitter everyone thinks he is.
he will be an avg hitter and have an avg career. sandoval just hits and hits, he just
got off to a slow start, by the end of the year he will be battling for the batting title.

 

[shephech]

Not selling or buying, just discussing:

On 4/16 Travis Snider was batting: .348 ; slugging percent .913; on base of .423
On 5/13 Travis Snider is now batting: .253 ; slugging percent .418; on base of .306

On 4/15 Pablo Sandoval was batting: .179; slugging percent .214; on base of .258
On 5/13 Pabo Sandoval is now batting: .303; slugging percent 487 ; on base of .346

These two sluggers are going in opposite directions but are stll incredibly young (21 and 22 years old) and are the cornerstone to the future for their respective teams.

What went right and went what wrong to create these drastic changes?

I hate Travis Snider's position in the lineup. I would bat him 7th or higher, even 8th, but definitely not 9th. I can't tell you how many times the person in front of him makes the last out of the inning with runners on base, it is sickening.

With the way the Jays are playing I am fine batting him 9th.... It just didn't make any sense to move him up really, don't you worry sometime in the future he will be 3rd or 4th.

Shep :ugeek:

 

[Jurgy25]

Even though Pablo has been swinging at ****** pitches (REALLY high fast balls like over his head.(not exaggerating)) So he has been a little bit more selective. Not a great reason but one nonetheless.

I think players just have hot/cold starts, and that's exactly what we see here. Also Snider should not be batting 9th. Easily 7th over Overbay and Barajas, maybe even 6th, but then again he does have the lowest BA on the team. I would still give him a chance higher in the order. Maybe give him a game where he bats 5th

 

[EricInCT]

Even though Pablo has been swinging at shatty pitches (REALLY high fast balls like over his head.(not exaggerating)) So he has been a little bit more selective. Not a great reason but one nonetheless.

I think players just have hot/cold starts, and that's exactly what we see here. Also Snider should not be batting 9th. Easily 7th over Overbay and Barajas, maybe even 6th, but then again he does have the lowest BA on the team. I would still give him a chance higher in the order. Maybe give him a game where he bats 5th

Snider is batting .357 the last 7 days though he only has 1 RBI, he is making contact but no one is on base. I would be happy with the 8th slot, he just isn't getting RBI opportunties.....I know plenty of hitters batting .250 and rake in tons of RBIs due to them not batting 9th.

 

[shephech]

Even though Pablo has been swinging at shatty pitches (REALLY high fast balls like over his head.(not exaggerating)) So he has been a little bit more selective. Not a great reason but one nonetheless.

I think players just have hot/cold starts, and that's exactly what we see here. Also Snider should not be batting 9th. Easily 7th over Overbay and Barajas, maybe even 6th, but then again he does have the lowest BA on the team. I would still give him a chance higher in the order. Maybe give him a game where he bats 5th

Snider is batting .357 the last 7 days though he only has 1 RBI, he is making contact but no one is on base. I would be happy with the 8th slot, he just isn't getting RBI opportunties.....I know plenty of hitters batting .250 and rake in tons of RBIs due to them not batting 9th.

I am still not sold.... last night Burnett made him look silly a couple of times, Right now it seems he can only hit a fastball.

I know he is young... Cito know's what he is doing with him, they did the same thing with Adam Lind and look at him now!.

Shep :ugeek:

 

[lisu]

It's because Panda can hit almost any ball hard even if they're in the dirt and not strikes. :lol:

 

[Jurgy25]

It's because Panda can hit almost any ball hard even if they're in the dirt and not strikes. :lol:

And thank god Joe Beimel missed his spot bad last night, and Sandoval rocked it. woo!!!

 

[muchuckwagon]

It is a long season....a hot streak or slump early in the year can distort numbers during the first few months. I would wait until at least a month after the all-star break before saying someone so young is going in the right or wrong direction.

 

[markakis8]

that's b/c the people ahead of him are driving them in before him...which is a good thing...

if you have noticed the Blue Jays lineup is stacked with Hill and Lind really contributing.

Even though Pablo has been swinging at shatty pitches (REALLY high fast balls like over his head.(not exaggerating)) So he has been a little bit more selective. Not a great reason but one nonetheless.

I think players just have hot/cold starts, and that's exactly what we see here. Also Snider should not be batting 9th. Easily 7th over Overbay and Barajas, maybe even 6th, but then again he does have the lowest BA on the team. I would still give him a chance higher in the order. Maybe give him a game where he bats 5th

Snider is batting .357 the last 7 days though he only has 1 RBI, he is making contact but no one is on base. I would be happy with the 8th slot, he just isn't getting RBI opportunties.....I know plenty of hitters batting .250 and rake in tons of RBIs due to them not batting 9th.

 

[braden]

Even though Pablo has been swinging at shatty pitches (REALLY high fast balls like over his head.(not exaggerating)) So he has been a little bit more selective. Not a great reason but one nonetheless.

I think players just have hot/cold starts, and that's exactly what we see here. Also Snider should not be batting 9th. Easily 7th over Overbay and Barajas, maybe even 6th, but then again he does have the lowest BA on the team. I would still give him a chance higher in the order. Maybe give him a game where he bats 5th

Snider is batting .357 the last 7 days though he only has 1 RBI, he is making contact but no one is on base. I would be happy with the 8th slot, he just isn't getting RBI opportunties.....I know plenty of hitters batting .250 and rake in tons of RBIs due to them not batting 9th.

Moving Snider to 8th makes absolutely no sense. You'd then have two lefties back-to-back. Plus, Barajas has been far superior over the past 3-4 weeks.

I couldn't care less about RBI opportunities. They'll come when they come. Right now the offense is the best in baseball. You don't change that just to get your coldest and youngest hitter more RBI opportunities.

To be honest, even with his slump, I've been completely pleased with Snider. His defense is strong and he hasn't struck out nearly as much as I'd expected. He'll be fine. And when he is, he'll start to move up in the order.

 

[cgilmo]

RBI's are simply not an acceptable metric for success.

 

[braden]

RBI's are simply not an acceptable metric for success.

I'd like to get that (and "Wins" and "Batting Average") printed on little handouts to save myself a lot of time when discussing baseball.

 

[darocker80]

Pablo is so underrated as a hitter. so many people gave up on him int he first two weeks of the season.

 

[aarne13]

RBI's are simply not an acceptable metric for success.

I'd like to get that (and "Wins" and "Batting Average") printed on little handouts to save myself a lot of time when discussing baseball.

They should resurrect the GWRBI.
:lol:

Pretty happy with Snider so far. His defence has improved significantly since the start of he season.

 

[Uofo2212]

I can't figure out why Sandoval is so under-rated...he hits everywhere. Maybe he doesn't have light tower power, or his body type, but the guy can play multiple postitions with efficiency and keeps on hitting...... ::facepalm::

 

[DetroitTigers]

I do agree with Snider batting 9th because currently Overbay and Barajas are producing better than Snider, so you adjust your lineup accordanly.

 

[aw00d05]

Even though Pablo has been swinging at shatty pitches (REALLY high fast balls like over his head.(not exaggerating)) So he has been a little bit more selective. Not a great reason but one nonetheless.

I think players just have hot/cold starts, and that's exactly what we see here. Also Snider should not be batting 9th. Easily 7th over Overbay and Barajas, maybe even 6th, but then again he does have the lowest BA on the team. I would still give him a chance higher in the order. Maybe give him a game where he bats 5th

Snider is batting .357 the last 7 days though he only has 1 RBI, he is making contact but no one is on base. I would be happy with the 8th slot, he just isn't getting RBI opportunties.....I know plenty of hitters batting .250 and rake in tons of RBIs due to them not batting 9th.

Moving Snider to 8th makes absolutely no sense. You'd then have two lefties back-to-back. Plus, Barajas has been far superior over the past 3-4 weeks.

I couldn't care less about RBI opportunities. They'll come when they come. Right now the offense is the best in baseball. You don't change that just to get your coldest and youngest hitter more RBI opportunities.

To be honest, even with his slump, I've been completely pleased with Snider. His defense is strong and he hasn't struck out nearly as much as I'd expected. He'll be fine. And when he is, he'll start to move up in the order.

LOL the Rangers lineup is much better...1-9..

 

[braden]

Even though Pablo has been swinging at shatty pitches (REALLY high fast balls like over his head.(not exaggerating)) So he has been a little bit more selective. Not a great reason but one nonetheless.

I think players just have hot/cold starts, and that's exactly what we see here. Also Snider should not be batting 9th. Easily 7th over Overbay and Barajas, maybe even 6th, but then again he does have the lowest BA on the team. I would still give him a chance higher in the order. Maybe give him a game where he bats 5th

Snider is batting .357 the last 7 days though he only has 1 RBI, he is making contact but no one is on base. I would be happy with the 8th slot, he just isn't getting RBI opportunties.....I know plenty of hitters batting .250 and rake in tons of RBIs due to them not batting 9th.

Moving Snider to 8th makes absolutely no sense. You'd then have two lefties back-to-back. Plus, Barajas has been far superior over the past 3-4 weeks.

I couldn't care less about RBI opportunities. They'll come when they come. Right now the offense is the best in baseball. You don't change that just to get your coldest and youngest hitter more RBI opportunities.

To be honest, even with his slump, I've been completely pleased with Snider. His defense is strong and he hasn't struck out nearly as much as I'd expected. He'll be fine. And when he is, he'll start to move up in the order.

LOL the Rangers lineup is much better...1-9..

Read it again, my friend. Here, I'll even help:

Right now the offense is the best in baseball

Now, how did I come to this conclusion? Let's take a look at the numbers:

Toronto: 209 RS in 35 games. That's 5.97 a game
Texas: 182 RS in 32 games. That's 5.69 a game

Ipso facto, Right now the offense is the best in baseball. Yes, 1-9 you could certainly argue that Texas has a lineup with much more potential, and much sexier power names. But right now, the Jays are scoring at a slightly better clip and thus, currently have the best offense in baseball.