Ugh Accidentally bought a redeemed redemption card.

[cartersprings]

Are you serious? Can you read? Do you understand English? This is the exact title "2011 Topps Chrome Redeemed Blue Refractor Auto USA Team autographed set card" how did the seller not spell out exactly what was for sell? He even spelled it correctly! He spelled out what was being sold 100% correct. I cannot see how you people think the OP is in the right here. He bought a redeemed redemption and that is what he got. How is that not as described.

If we put this in math formula form:

ITEM NOT AS DESCRIBED --> A=B (this would be a legit item not as described) but in this case A=A, so how is the item not as described? What logic are you people using?

The OP obviously didn't take time to read what was being sold, so even if the seller put in big bold letters in the description who is to say the buyer would have took the time to read it. The OP was looking for what he thought was a "steal" and from the looks of things, hit the BIN and paid rather quickly.

This Auction is for the card shown Rare card one every 2400 packs.. fair Buy it now price

Yes I can read, thanks for being a dick.

 

[danimal]

Yes I can read, thanks for being a dick.

Wow, way to call me a dick! I guess I really made you mad! You said the guy didn't spell it out, I simply showed you exactly where the seller did spell it out. There is nothing even the slightest bit dickful about that. I was thought perhaps had a hard time comprehending the English language so I thought putting in in a mathematical picture might help you out!

I get it, you are friends or like the OP, and you would probably be on his side no matter what, but there is no way the seller sent an item not as described! Unless you can show me where the seller did not send a redeemed redemption card there is no argument here.

I guess it is true when you can't prove your point start calling people names! So with that being said I take that dick calling as a compliment.

 

[mancini79]

I still don't see how there was any deception. The scan showed the entire front, which is all 99% of all auctions show just the front. The auction VERY clearly stated Redeemed, it was the 4th word in the title! Before you read Blue or anything else is the word redeemed.

I am always on the side of folks who get ripped off, but no one got ripped off here. This is a very clear cut case of the buyer getting exactly what the seller said he was selling. It's not the sellers fault someone sent him $49 for a redeemed redemption card! I think in this case you all like and are friends with the OP and are on his side for that reason only. There is nothing deceptive about that auction. If you are "tricked" by that auction you are basically admitting you lack basic reading comprehension skills.

Plus his auction says "No returns". I am truly not trying to be an ass, even though I know I may sound like one, but this is 100% a case of the OP having buyer's remorse. Classic case of not taking responsibility for one's own actions.

I get what your saying. I screwed up. I admit that. That "No returns" thing is BS and if you buy/sell on ebay you know that. I've had quite a few. Paypal will override the ebay "No returns" depending on the situation.

He bought the redemption for $100 on Christmas and thinks $50 is a fair price for his used redemption. Claims he collects them. He acts interested in my other used redemptions. I call BS but I offered him my used ones in exchange for a refund. Since he says they are so valuable. He doesn't really think that though for this redemption. Buying time until Paypal rules in his favor. Then it's over. Not going to mess with his auctions or hack his PC or anything. Just trying to get my $ back. If not, life goes on. No biggie.

Just trying to get my $ back because I feel he might be trying to deceive. Half price redemption BIN. You know buyers jump quick for that. Only mentioned redeemed 1x. Had it been mentioned redeemed more than 1x, I would feel he's on the up and up. But I dont. Based on our emails. So out of principle, I'm having buyers remorse. Yeah, I'm the one to ultimately blame here. But I "give away" so much money due to "item not received" or other reasons, I couldn't care less. These "clear cut" rules on ebay are bent all the time and I think it's time I stop bending over and start doing the bending.

So how many times does the word "redeemed" have to be listed? Twice, Three times? Is there a mandatory font size also?
What would be a "Fair" price? Something tells me if it were listed at $15 you STILL would have bought it. So that's a BS excuse.
On a positive note, he only charged $1 for shipping. (That should have been your warning right there).

 

[cartersprings]

I'd just like to know what type of claim the OP filed because I don't know how he could expect to win filing a dispute that says I bought something and now I don't want it, last time I checked that wasn't an option.

I pointed out he could have filed it as a item not as described and a reasoning he could have used in doing so. The OP has a valid point IMO, and I listed why. I think you need to heed your own advice and work on your reading/comprehension skills.

BTW, I don't know the OP. Sorry to disappoint you in your quest to discredit any opposing views. Regardless of what we think, eBay/PayPal will very likely side with the OP.

 

[SeattleSports]

Siding with the buyer here, cancel and move on.

It's like the people who sell the Xbox 360 Box a few years ago for $300.

I don't care how clearly it's listed, anyone trying to sell a redeemed redemption has it coming.

 

[mancini79]

I'd just like to know what type of claim the OP filed because I don't know how he could expect to win filing a dispute that says I bought something and now I don't want it, last time I checked that wasn't an option.

I pointed out he could have filed it as a item not as described and a reasoning he could have used in doing so. The OP has a valid point IMO, and I listed why. I think you need to heed your own advice and work on your reading/comprehension skills.

BTW, I don't know the OP. Sorry to disappoint you in your quest to discredit any opposing views. Regardless of what we think, eBay/PayPal will very likely side with the OP.

The Item's title IS part of the description. It was spelled out pretty clearly.

 

[fengzhang]

I still don't see how there was any deception. The scan showed the entire front, which is all 99% of all auctions show just the front. The auction VERY clearly stated Redeemed, it was the 4th word in the title! Before you read Blue or anything else is the word redeemed.

I am always on the side of folks who get ripped off, but no one got ripped off here. This is a very clear cut case of the buyer getting exactly what the seller said he was selling. It's not the sellers fault someone sent him $49 for a redeemed redemption card! I think in this case you all like and are friends with the OP and are on his side for that reason only. There is nothing deceptive about that auction. If you are "tricked" by that auction you are basically admitting you lack basic reading comprehension skills.

Plus his auction says "No returns". I am truly not trying to be an ass, even though I know I may sound like one, but this is 100% a case of the OP having buyer's remorse. Classic case of not taking responsibility for one's own actions.

I get what your saying. I screwed up. I admit that. That "No returns" thing is BS and if you buy/sell on ebay you know that. I've had quite a few. Paypal will override the ebay "No returns" depending on the situation.

He bought the redemption for $100 on Christmas and thinks $50 is a fair price for his used redemption. Claims he collects them. He acts interested in my other used redemptions. I call BS but I offered him my used ones in exchange for a refund. Since he says they are so valuable. He doesn't really think that though for this redemption. Buying time until Paypal rules in his favor. Then it's over. Not going to mess with his auctions or hack his PC or anything. Just trying to get my $ back. If not, life goes on. No biggie.

Just trying to get my $ back because I feel he might be trying to deceive. Half price redemption BIN. You know buyers jump quick for that. Only mentioned redeemed 1x. Had it been mentioned redeemed more than 1x, I would feel he's on the up and up. But I dont. Based on our emails. So out of principle, I'm having buyers remorse. Yeah, I'm the one to ultimately blame here. But I "give away" so much money due to "item not received" or other reasons, I couldn't care less. These "clear cut" rules on ebay are bent all the time and I think it's time I stop bending over and start doing the bending.

So how many times does the word "redeemed" have to be listed? Twice, Three times? Is there a mandatory font size also?
What would be a "Fair" price? Something tells me if it were listed at $15 you STILL would have bought it. So that's a BS excuse.
On a positive note, he only charged $1 for shipping. (That should have been your warning right there).

Actually, it looks like it was listed at a (more reasonable) $19 starting bid with a $49 BIN.

Instead of trying to second guess the seller's intentions we should be taking the auction as what it is: the buyer made a mistake in reading the title and he should pay for it. End of story. I can't believe someone is willing to risk their reputation over $50 when THEY made the mistake.

 

[MartinFFcollector]

I still don't see how there was any deception. The scan showed the entire front, which is all 99% of all auctions show just the front. The auction VERY clearly stated Redeemed, it was the 4th word in the title! Before you read Blue or anything else is the word redeemed.

I am always on the side of folks who get ripped off, but no one got ripped off here. This is a very clear cut case of the buyer getting exactly what the seller said he was selling. It's not the sellers fault someone sent him $49 for a redeemed redemption card! I think in this case you all like and are friends with the OP and are on his side for that reason only. There is nothing deceptive about that auction. If you are "tricked" by that auction you are basically admitting you lack basic reading comprehension skills.

Plus his auction says "No returns". I am truly not trying to be an ass, even though I know I may sound like one, but this is 100% a case of the OP having buyer's remorse. Classic case of not taking responsibility for one's own actions.

I get what your saying. I screwed up. I admit that. That "No returns" thing is BS and if you buy/sell on ebay you know that. I've had quite a few. Paypal will override the ebay "No returns" depending on the situation.

He bought the redemption for $100 on Christmas and thinks $50 is a fair price for his used redemption. Claims he collects them. He acts interested in my other used redemptions. I call BS but I offered him my used ones in exchange for a refund. Since he says they are so valuable. He doesn't really think that though for this redemption. Buying time until Paypal rules in his favor. Then it's over. Not going to mess with his auctions or hack his PC or anything. Just trying to get my $ back. If not, life goes on. No biggie.

Just trying to get my $ back because I feel he might be trying to deceive. Half price redemption BIN. You know buyers jump quick for that. Only mentioned redeemed 1x. Had it been mentioned redeemed more than 1x, I would feel he's on the up and up. But I dont. Based on our emails. So out of principle, I'm having buyers remorse. Yeah, I'm the one to ultimately blame here. But I "give away" so much money due to "item not received" or other reasons, I couldn't care less. These "clear cut" rules on ebay are bent all the time and I think it's time I stop bending over and start doing the bending.

So how many times does the word "redeemed" have to be listed? Twice, Three times? Is there a mandatory font size also?
What would be a "Fair" price? Something tells me if it were listed at $15 you STILL would have bought it. So that's a BS excuse.
On a positive note, he only charged $1 for shipping. (That should have been your warning right there).

Actually, it looks like it was listed at a (more reasonable) $19 starting bid with a $49 BIN.

Instead of trying to second guess the seller's intentions we should be taking the auction as what it is: the buyer made a mistake in reading the title and he should pay for it. End of story. I can't believe someone is willing to risk their reputation over $50 when THEY made the mistake.

If this ruins my reputation, so be it. I'm not too concerned with my reputation on a baseball card message board.

 

[Firebirds11]

Let me guess..

If the seller was on here, complaining that the buyer wanted a refund, it would have been the other way around. You guys would have told the seller to have a clearer description.

Everyone is wrong.

 

[Super Mario]

This has been a fun read.

Hall of Shame bound I am certain.



I have my popcorn ready for further entertainment.

 

[DRav87]

I can't believe someone is willing to risk their reputation over $50 when THEY made the mistake.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

This really got me laughing. Some people take these message boards way too seriously.

 

[hive17]

This thread got me thinking: why is eBay SOOOO special that deals, once agreed to, are supposed to be irrevereble? Can't I return something to Amazon? Can't I return something to J Crew? Can't I return something to most retailers if it's unaltered and in "reshelvable" condition. Someone made the point that if the item is returned, it could be resold again. Why is eBay so special?

I'm still not certain how this situation should be treated. I know I've stepped on my sack when I bought a "box" of 2005 Topps Pristine for $45, which was actually a pack (they were technically small boxes). I paid and didn't even notice it until I received it. Clearly, the seller could, in no way think a used redemption is worth $50, and the lame "I collect these things" back-up story furthers my opinion that he was hoping someone saw the BIN and didn't look too close.

 

[P_Manning 18]

 

[fsulevine]

And if you dont think that anyone would want an expired redemption card, the Pujols from 2001 Bowman Chrome goes for HUNDREDS.

Depending on the circumstances of the card redemptions can be very collectible. Willie Stargell passed away before he could sign for 2001 Greats of the Game and I was pretty happy to add the expired redemption to my set for less than $40.

I was actually anxiously awaiting that card when he passed away. I wanted to add his auto to my collection. Instead they created a pretty neat jersey card that was hand numbered to amount of outstanding redemptions.

Wow. I didn't actually know he had passed away. I went to a show in Knoxville, TN back in my junior high days that he was signing at. Probably was around 1987, give or take. Had him sign my 1974 Topps card I had of him. Was very nice I must say. Maybe one day I should get the signature authenticated, but I have many more important things to take care of, so it won't be in the budget for a while. At least I will have the memory of meeting him!

 

[mancini79]

This thread got me thinking: why is eBay SOOOO special that deals, once agreed to, are supposed to be irrevereble? Can't I return something to Amazon? Can't I return something to J Crew? Can't I return something to most retailers if it's unaltered and in "reshelvable" condition. Someone made the point that if the item is returned, it could be resold again. Why is eBay so special?

All of your examples are retailers, not AUCTION sales. You are comparing apples to redeemed cards here.

 

[Sean_C]

Thank you for saying if before I could!

This is ridiculous. The buyer thought he could take advantage of the seller and instead it bit him in the ass. Pay up. We see tons of posts on here from a seller's perspective when the buyer fails to read the auction fully. This is no different. Neither the buyer nor the seller had good intentions in this situation. They both wanted an item at a price far from its actual value. The seller won in this case. PAY UP.

 

[ChasHawk]

I can't believe someone is willing to risk their reputation over $50 when THEY made the mistake.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

This really got me laughing. Some people take these message boards way too seriously.

:lol:

 

[hive17]

This thread got me thinking: why is eBay SOOOO special that deals, once agreed to, are supposed to be irrevereble? Can't I return something to Amazon? Can't I return something to J Crew? Can't I return something to most retailers if it's unaltered and in "reshelvable" condition. Someone made the point that if the item is returned, it could be resold again. Why is eBay so special?

All of your examples are retailers, not AUCTION sales. You are comparing apples to redeemed cards here.

Devil's Advocate here: is a BIN really an auction? Furthering my point that, if this is truly a $50 item, he could have easily gotten that with an auction listing.

 

[WaxPax]

If the seller was on here bragging about "I can't believe someone hit my BIN on this" , he would be taking a beating right about now.....

Let me guess..

If the seller was on here, complaining that the buyer wanted a refund, it would have been the other way around. You guys would have told the seller to have a clearer description.

Everyone is wrong.

 

[ChasHawk]

Let me guess..

If the seller was on here, complaining that the buyer wanted a refund, it would have been the other way around. You guys would have told the seller to have a clearer description.

Everyone is wrong.

If the seller was on here bragging about "I can't believe someone hit my BIN on this" , he would be taking a beating right about now.....

Exactly.

If someone here did this...pariah city.