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Look at the roadblock a team that signs Tate will have to overcome:

1. Player comes from a well off family
2. Scholarship to play football with a coach that said he can play baseball also
3. Top 10 selection
4. Scott Boras
5. Early reports that Boras will be seeking a MLB contract for Tate
6. Tate, Ackley, and Green all have Boras has a client.

If I am Seattle, I take Tate, Green, or Ackley based on who looks the best on that last weekend workout and who looks like they would report to camp the quickest.
 

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19braves77 said:
I haven't heard or read anything from one person who thinks that Montero is going to stay at catcher.

Brian Cashman says otherwise said:
Without question, he is significantly improved this year as opposed to last year to the point that we don't really doubt he's going to be a catcher in the big leagues.

Despite what BA says, it looks as though the front office is very impressed with the big man behind the plate.
 

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Purke is the guy I'll be watching the closest. He's going to make whoever takes him very happy. As I said in another thread, Detroit appears to be a good fit, as they're aggressive with young pitchers historically. I see validity to him being selected just as high as you listed, by the O's.
 

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pujolsjunkie said:
Purke is the guy I'll be watching the closest. He's going to make whoever takes him very happy. As I said in another thread, Detroit appears to be a good fit, as they're aggressive with young pitchers historically. I see validity to him being selected just as high as you listed, by the O's.
And Giants aren't, most of our first round draft picks dating back to the late 1980s have been pitching lol. except for like posey haha and fairley
 

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Someone Pmed me about Jacob Turner. He is going to be my one top HS arms that actually fails due to him being so pro UNC. Just sounds like he is excited about going to college.
 

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19braves77 said:
Look at the roadblock a team that signs Tate will have to overcome:

1. Player comes from a well off family
2. Scholarship to play football with a coach that said he can play baseball also
3. Top 10 selection
4. Scott Boras
5. Early reports that Boras will be seeking a MLB contract for Tate
6. Tate, Ackley, and Green all have Boras has a client.

If I am Seattle, I take Tate, Green, or Ackley based on who looks the best on that last weekend workout and who looks like they would report to camp the quickest.

If you are Seattle, you choose Grant Green.

You NEED a franchise Shortstop.
 

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Based on the Giants' recent track record, I don't think Tate slips by them. They have been looking more at uber athletes (Posey, Fairley, and Burriss) and I think they have proven to be an organization that will spend in the draft. From what I understand, they view Tate as Fred Lewis with a much higher ceiling.



darocker80 said:
And Giants aren't, most of our first round draft picks dating back to the late 1980s have been pitching lol. except for like posey haha and fairley

They have actually drafted a lot of bats, just have not panned out or are still developing.

2008 - Posey and Gillaspie (sup)
2007 - Fairley, Noonan (sup), Williams (sup), and Culberson (sup)
2006 - Burriss (sup)
2001 - Linden (sup)
1998 - Torcato, McDowell
1997 - McKinley (sup)
1994 - Powell and Cruz (sup)
1992 - Murray
1990 - Hyzdu, Christopherson, and Jensen (sup)
1989 - Hosey
1988 - Clayton and Wood (sup)
 

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19braves77 said:
Look at the roadblock a team that signs Tate will have to overcome:

1. Player comes from a well off family
2. Scholarship to play football with a coach that said he can play baseball also
3. Top 10 selection
4. Scott Boras
5. Early reports that Boras will be seeking a MLB contract for Tate
6. Tate, Ackley, and Green all have Boras has a client.

If I am Seattle, I take Tate, Green, or Ackley based on who looks the best on that last weekend workout and who looks like they would report to camp the quickest.

That's a little silly. That's basically like saying lets flip a coin on who we should take. I'm not saying workouts are silly, but to take a guy, who you had ranked lower, because he performed better on a certain day is.

With the second pick they should know already or will soon who they will take. I'm sure they already know what each player will want.

JMO
 

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The last weekend workout does influence a teams decision based on workout performance and contract demands:

2005- Rays invite Andrew McCutchen , Craig Hansen, and Wade Townsend the weekend before the draft. Scouting department wants McCutchen due to his workout performance, Hansen workout is better then Townsend but his asking price is higher, meanwhile Townsend's workout was 1st at 6am. Those that observed the workout at the Naomi Complex had a hard time keeping a straight face when Townsend topped out in the mid 80's. The main reason the Rays selected Townsend was because the Ray owner only saw Townsend's performance and the two parties had already agreed on a contract. The only thing that held up the announcement was that MLB frowns above pre-draft deals and both parties couldn't agree on how the contract should be paid.

This Rays tidbit was going to part of a Rays book about how absurd Rays management was the 1st 10 years but never saw print. I also had a discussion with McClutchen about it that year in year instructs because he thought he was going to be a Ray. I read a rough draft of the 1st 100 pages of the book that covered the Rays drafting philosophy and the clashes the scouting department had with ownership. The book also covered the humerous exchanges between the Rays owner and Josh Beckett's 2 hour visit to his house.

Another one was also in 2005:

Braves invite Colby Rasmus, Jacob Ellsbury, and Craig Hansen into camp. If you ask Joey Devine, he didn't even workout for the Braves before being drafted. His selection was base due the following: Braves did not think Rasmus would last to them so his workout was short after Rasmus informed them that he had already been in Boston for a workout. Plus, Rasmus's workout did not impress the Braves vs Ellsbury's. The Braves never discussed contract demands with Rasmus. Hansen asking price was to high for the Braves. Fast forward. Braves are in a pennant race but AOL Time Warner Inc has informed GM Jon that they will not be able to take on any expensive contracts for bullpen help. Flashforward 3 days before draft day, a cluster of Braves are sent to watch Devine's last college performance in the ACC tourney. On draft day, Braves scouting department is is told to come to a conclusion on the best arm that will be ready the quickest and can help out in Sep. Braves board was set up like this : Hansen, Devine, and JB Cox. Cox was the backup if Devine was selected before he got to the Braves, Hansens was who everybody wanted in the Braves scouting department but his contract demands were to high, and Devine was thus picked due to his low contract demands. Braves were hoping that Devine could help the Braves in that years postseason. Braves scouts wanted Jacoby Ellsbury due to his workout and had Hansen over Devine even after watching Devine's last pitching performance. The Braves informed Rasmus's dad that their plan was to grab him in the 1st Supp Round with pick #41 if he was still on the board. Money was the deciding factor in the selection of Devine..
 

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19braves77 said:
The last weekend workout does influence a teams decision based on workout performance and contract demands:

2005- Rays invite Andruw McClutchen, Craig Hansen, and Wade Townsend the weekend before the draft. Scouting department wants McClutchen due to his workout performance, Hansen workout is better then Townsend but his asking price is higher, meanwhile Townsend's workout was 1st at 6am. Those that observed the workout at the Naomi Complex had a hard time keeping a straight face when Townsend topped out in the mid 80's. The main reason the Rays selected Townsend was because the Ray owner only saw Townsend's performance and the two parties had already agreed on a contract. The only thing that held up the announcement was that MLB frowns above pre-draft deals and both parties couldn't agree on how the contract.

This Rays tidbit was going to part of a Rays book about how absurd Rays management was the 1st 10 years but never saw print. I also had a discussion with McClutchen about it that year in year instructs because he thought he was going to be a Ray. I read a rough draft of the 1st 100 pages of the book that covered the Rays drafting philosophy and the clashes the scouting department had with ownership. The book also covered the humerous exchanges between the Rays owner and Josh Beckett's 2 hour visit to his house.

Another one was also in 2005:

Braves invite Colby Rasmus, Jacob Ellsbury, and Craig Hansen into camp. If you ask Joey Devine, he didn't even workout for the Braves before being drafted. His selection was base due the following: Braves did not think Rasmus would last to them so his workout was short after Rasmus informed them that he had already been in Boston for a workout. Plus, Rasmus's workout did not impress the Braves vs Ellsbury's. The Braves never discussed contract demands with Rasmus. Hansen asking price was to high for the Braves. Fast forward. Braves are in a pennant race but AOL Time Warner Inc has informed GM Jon that they will not be able to take on any expensive contracts for bullpen help. Flashforward 3 days before draft day, a cluster of Braves are sent to watch Devine's last college performance in the ACC tourney. On draft day, Braves scouting department is is told to come to a conclusion on the best arm that will be ready the quickest and can help out in Sep. Braves board was set up like this : Hansen, Devine, and JB Cox. Cox was the backup if Devine was selected before he got to the Braves, Hansens was who everybody wanted in the Braves scouting department but his contract demands were to high, and Devine was thus picked due to his low contract demands. Braves were hoping that Devine could help the Braves in that years postseason. Braves scouts wanted Jacoby Ellsbury due to his workout and had Hansen over Devine even after watching Devine's last pitching performance. The Braves informed Rasmus's dad that their plan was to grab him in the 1st Supp Round with pick #41 if he was still on the board. Money was the deciding factor in the selection of Devine..

Andruw McClutchen?????
 

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Chad Thompson is out with TJ surgery.

That reordered things a bit:

1. Nationals Stephen Strasburg RHP
2 Mariners Dustin Ackley 1B
3 Padres Aaron Crow Ft Worth
4 Pirates Grant Green SS
5 Orioles Matthew Purke LHP
6 Giants Alex White RHP
7 Braves Shelby Miller RHP
8 Reds James Paxton LHP
9 Tigers Donovan Tate CF
10 Nationals Kyle Gibson RHP
11 Rockies Luke Bailey C
12 Royals Tyler Matzek LHP
13 Athletics Mike Leake RHP
14 Rangers Mike Minor RHP
15 Indians Brad Boxberger RHP
16 Diamondbacks Tyler Skaggs LHP
17 Diamondbacks Keyvius Sampson RHP
18 Marlins Brian Goodwin CF
19 Cardinals Tanner Scheppers RHP
20 Blue Jays Everett Williams OF
21 Astros Jake Marisnick OF
22 Twins Kentrail Davis OF
23 White Sox Brett Jackson CF
24 Angels Jason Stoffel RP
25 Angels Kendal Volz RHP
26 Brewers Jared Mitchell OF
27 Mariners Jiovanni Mier SS
28 Red Sox Tony Sanchez C
29 Yankees Austin Maddox C
30 Rays Rich Poythress 1st
31 Cubs Mychael Givens RHP/SS
32 Rockies Blake Smith RHP/OF
 

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19braves77 said:
The last weekend workout does influence a teams decision based on workout performance and contract demands:

2005- Rays invite Andrew McCutchen , Craig Hansen, and Wade Townsend the weekend before the draft. Scouting department wants McCutchen due to his workout performance, Hansen workout is better then Townsend but his asking price is higher, meanwhile Townsend's workout was 1st at 6am. Those that observed the workout at the Naomi Complex had a hard time keeping a straight face when Townsend topped out in the mid 80's. The main reason the Rays selected Townsend was because the Ray owner only saw Townsend's performance and the two parties had already agreed on a contract. The only thing that held up the announcement was that MLB frowns above pre-draft deals and both parties couldn't agree on how the contract.

This Rays tidbit was going to part of a Rays book about how absurd Rays management was the 1st 10 years but never saw print. I also had a discussion with McClutchen about it that year in year instructs because he thought he was going to be a Ray. I read a rough draft of the 1st 100 pages of the book that covered the Rays drafting philosophy and the clashes the scouting department had with ownership. The book also covered the humerous exchanges between the Rays owner and Josh Beckett's 2 hour visit to his house.

Another one was also in 2005:

Braves invite Colby Rasmus, Jacob Ellsbury, and Craig Hansen into camp. If you ask Joey Devine, he didn't even workout for the Braves before being drafted. His selection was base due the following: Braves did not think Rasmus would last to them so his workout was short after Rasmus informed them that he had already been in Boston for a workout. Plus, Rasmus's workout did not impress the Braves vs Ellsbury's. The Braves never discussed contract demands with Rasmus. Hansen asking price was to high for the Braves. Fast forward. Braves are in a pennant race but AOL Time Warner Inc has informed GM Jon that they will not be able to take on any expensive contracts for bullpen help. Flashforward 3 days before draft day, a cluster of Braves are sent to watch Devine's last college performance in the ACC tourney. On draft day, Braves scouting department is is told to come to a conclusion on the best arm that will be ready the quickest and can help out in Sep. Braves board was set up like this : Hansen, Devine, and JB Cox. Cox was the backup if Devine was selected before he got to the Braves, Hansens was who everybody wanted in the Braves scouting department but his contract demands were to high, and Devine was thus picked due to his low contract demands. Braves were hoping that Devine could help the Braves in that years postseason. Braves scouts wanted Jacoby Ellsbury due to his workout and had Hansen over Devine even after watching Devine's last pitching performance. The Braves informed Rasmus's dad that their plan was to grab him in the 1st Supp Round with pick #41 if he was still on the board. Money was the deciding factor in the selection of Devine..

Oh I know, It's just stupid thing for clubs to do and doesn't seem to workout(no pun intended).
 

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it is still a huge crap shoot, and predicting the draft is still very much wide open. you still have 1/4 of the college baseball season ahead, and the tournaments. I know for a fact that the SEC tournament vaulted a cards pitcher higher up than he would have gone. Jess Todd struck out 17 in a game vs S.C. He was the #2 guy behind Nick Schmidt. His performance that day alone notched him up higher on everyone's draft boards. I would say the top pick is set, but everyone else, is going to come down to $$$$$
 

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too bad teams can't draft kids like we do in fantasy league as their "keepers' I know a guy whose kid can rake, he is 3.. haha..
seriously though, a lot can change in a month and half. (see Tanner Scheppers)
 

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I sort of want to live in that world where McCutchen went to the Rays and Ellsbury to the Braves. Just to see how it is, you know?

Time to find a worm hole.
 

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I have a hard time with the local boy Green slipping past #3. I still think San Diego will take if he is there. But you never know with their luck drafting local can't miss shortstops.
 

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