wade miley... RAZOR EXCLUSIVE

[rob167]

i agree.......someone posted about the subject........brian responded..........no sense really beating a dead horse..........wait until brian figures out what is going to happen, then if HE wants, he can post here..........i'm more interested in the thread that was locked concerning a site admin.........i might get bashed (and i like cgilmore), but i think it looks bad when an admin gets called out.........

IMHO -- Too many conspiracy theorists on FCB who think things are locked to keep them hidden and that every mistake warrants a full blown public interrogation.

 

[Therion]

It isn't as if there weren't overreactions on both sides of the topic. By locking the thread you prevent legitimate questions from getting answered. Kentucky made an excellent post just before lock but it will get no responses. I'm pretty neutral on Razor right now but by locking things down you only push people to one side or the other of the argument. You will never convince everyone that a product is awesome or ***** but when you cut things off like that it makes reasonable people question motives.

Thanks for finally responding to the situation. It should help alleviate some of the concern.

 

[Leaf]

#3- Donruss originally had Matt Wieters in EEE 2008, but on our learning of this they pulled him at the last second as they acknowledged the validity of our ironclad agreements.

um, brian or someone else, does this mean that wieters does not have a 2008 elite collegiate patch /25,
so i can stop looking for it?

yes

 

[Leaf]

i agree.......someone posted about the subject........brian responded..........no sense really beating a dead horse..........wait until brian figures out what is going to happen, then if HE wants, he can post here..........i'm more interested in the thread that was locked concerning a site admin.........i might get bashed (and i like cgilmore), but i think it looks bad when an admin gets called out.........

IMHO -- Too many conspiracy theorists on FCB who think things are locked to keep them hidden and that every mistake warrants a full blown public interrogation.

Trust me.. I will share here first.... I always do!

 

[Leaf]

It isn't as if there weren't overreactions on both sides of the topic. By locking the thread you prevent legitimate questions from getting answered. Kentucky made an excellent post just before lock but it will get no responses. I'm pretty neutral on Razor right now but by locking things down you only push people to one side or the other of the argument. You will never convince everyone that a product is awesome or quit swearing but when you cut things off like that it makes reasonable people question motives.

Thanks for finally responding to the situation. It should help alleviate some of the concern.

Sorry for the delay... I was at Army all-american hs football game all week... BIG ANNOUNCEMENT THIS WEEK..

 

[Leaf]

im fine not locking.... I love chatting with yall.. BG

 

[muskiesfan]

Brian,

Thank you for taking the time. I know this has got to be a pain in the ass. Good luck with it.



Joe

 

[Therion]

It isn't as if there weren't overreactions on both sides of the topic. By locking the thread you prevent legitimate questions from getting answered. Kentucky made an excellent post just before lock but it will get no responses. I'm pretty neutral on Razor right now but by locking things down you only push people to one side or the other of the argument. You will never convince everyone that a product is awesome or quit swearing but when you cut things off like that it makes reasonable people question motives.

Thanks for finally responding to the situation. It should help alleviate some of the concern.

Sorry for the delay... I was at Army all-american hs football game all week... BIG ANNOUNCEMENT THIS WEEK..

Oh, no need to appologize. I never demanded your presence. I just attempted to explain why people wanted it It concerned me but I assumed you would address it before too long.

 

[bballcardkid]

IMHO -- Too many conspiracy theorists on FCB who think things are locked to keep them hidden and that every mistake warrants a full blown public interrogation.

haha yup

 

[A_Pharis]

Brian: I love your products, and I understand when real life comes into play. People need to realize that even top business moguls are not machines that sit at a phone all day every day.
Best of luck to you with the situation, and thank you for the time you do spend here with us.

 

[moxacaine]

It isn't as if there weren't overreactions on both sides of the topic. By locking the thread you prevent legitimate questions from getting answered. Kentucky made an excellent post just before lock but it will get no responses. I'm pretty neutral on Razor right now but by locking things down you only push people to one side or the other of the argument. You will never convince everyone that a product is awesome or quit swearing but when you cut things off like that it makes reasonable people question motives.

Thanks for finally responding to the situation. It should help alleviate some of the concern.

Sorry for the delay... I was at Army all-american hs football game all week... BIG ANNOUNCEMENT THIS WEEK..

Any hints? Does it have to do with the upcomming letterman release?

tks
Ken

 

[Guest]

Brian,

Thanks for coming on here on a weekend to discuss this business matter. I can see both arguments in this situation, but I think it's great business for you to come on here and address your biggest supporters.

I don't understand some people... :? I guess they just expect you to be on here all the time.

Keep up the good work.

Just a suggestion, too, work on getting your product out to more hobby shops and stores like BC sports, etc. I can't find loose packs anywhere.

Mike

 

[Bob Loblaw]

#1- Razor absolutely has an ironclad contract with Wade Miley that 100% enjoins Donruss from this usage.

#2- Wade Miley also might have entered into a contract with Donruss VIOLATING his agreement. If so, both Miley (for breach of contract) and Donruss (for tortuous interference) will be sued and we will stop at nothing to be as punitive as possible as to the damages that are sought.

#3- Donruss originally had Matt Wieters in EEE 2008, but on our learning of this they pulled him at the last second as they acknowledged the validity of our ironclad agreements.

As a side note, I am growing very tired of hearing posters spread conspiracy theories. For example,

Quoting Jeff N., "Now I know why he wouldn't let me see the contract"...... My response to this, I have signed confidentiality agreements with every player and showing you this agreement would be a material breach... Unlike others in the business, I do not breach contracts....

For once and all, Our contracts are rock solid...


Feel free to PM an y questions... BG

I never said that. I said understandably, you wouldn't show me the contract. If I were you, I wouldn't show the contracts to a message board either.

 

[cgilmo]

All this talk about what should be locked and what shouldn't be locked drives me nuts. There is a very good reason that so few people have access to the lock button.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

#1- Razor absolutely has an ironclad contract with Wade Miley that 100% enjoins Donruss from this usage.

#2- Wade Miley also might have entered into a contract with Donruss VIOLATING his agreement. If so, both Miley (for breach of contract) and Donruss (for tortuous interference) will be sued and we will stop at nothing to be as punitive as possible as to the damages that are sought.

#3- Donruss originally had Matt Wieters in EEE 2008, but on our learning of this they pulled him at the last second as they acknowledged the validity of our ironclad agreements.

As a side note, I am growing very tired of hearing posters spread conspiracy theories. For example,

Quoting Jeff N., "Now I know why he wouldn't let me see the contract"...... My response to this, I have signed confidentiality agreements with every player and showing you this agreement would be a material breach... Unlike others in the business, I do not breach contracts....

For once and all, Our contracts are rock solid...


Feel free to PM an y questions... BG

I never said that. I said understandably, you wouldn't show me the contract. If I were you, I wouldn't show the contracts to a message board either.

Do you have a liquidated damages clause in the contract? Without that, you're going to waste a lot of time and money about 26 baseball cards. Suing Donruss is ridiculous, unless you can prove that they knowingly and willingly intended to print those 26 cards and insert them in their product. As I said in the other thread, the fact that they apparently removed the autograph cards would do a lot of good in a jury's eyes in showing they attempted to mitigate the player's damages.

 

[bballcardkid]

All this talk about what should be locked and what shouldn't be locked drives me nuts. There is a very good reason that so few people have access to the lock button.

There shouldn't be any more with access. We would have a locking party if we did.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

Here's my exact quote:

I asked BG to see a contract. Understandably, he didn't show it.

 

[kentuckyderby]

All this talk about what should be locked and what shouldn't be locked drives me nuts. There is a very good reason that so few people have access to the lock button.

Do you agree with every lock that has been done?
Do people need to clear it with you and/or MyPens66 before locking?

 

[dethomas07]

I don't think I'll get in trouble for this, but if I do, it is worth it.

Get the hell off of Brian!!

He is here trying to make the hobby better. Probably the LONGEST it would take to get a response from him might be 60 hours (from Friday at closing until Monday morning). How responsive are Topps and UD whenever something comes up? Do they respond quicker? Do they try and make things better in the end or just try and get you to shut up?

I've dealt with Customer Service at Topps and UD and I know from MY experience, Razor has a CLEAR advantage over them at this point.

You can call me biased because we won the uncut sheet or because we opened two boxes of Razor Signature Series (we do still needs cards #2 & 68 to complete our second base set) and the boys had an absolute BLAST opening the boxes. But I don't feel it is right that we have such HUGE expectations from Brian. He's already come through big, but we always expect more.

That's my say.

David

 

[cgilmo]

All this talk about what should be locked and what shouldn't be locked drives me nuts. There is a very good reason that so few people have access to the lock button.

Do you agree with every lock that has been done?
Do people need to clear it with you and/or MyPens66 before locking?

1. no
2. no
3. you can't appoint moderators and then not let them moderate