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cgilmo said:
I love "Locked up Abroad"

Its schadenfraude, makin me feel glad that i'm not you...

It's Schadenfreude. Sorry, but a bit of a nitpick when it comes to being able to spell a word one tries to say. Comes with the teaching field I suppose. ;)
 

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Pete14Rose said:
cgilmo said:
I love "Locked up Abroad"

Its schadenfraude, makin me feel glad that i'm not you...

It's Schadenfreude. Sorry, but a bit of a nitpick when it comes to being able to spell a word one tries to say. Comes with the teaching field I suppose. ;)


yeah, but my spell checker won't hit German words
 

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When I worked for the largest snackfood company in the world we gave $15,000 in computers to one of my best accounts that in turn gave them to a local inner city high school. It is the way of business for those that are not in business.
 

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sportscardtheory said:
If I were Brian Gray, I would stay away from FCB... and I don't mean that as if that's what I want. This is not a knock on the people who run FCB, but a knock on the whiny little trolls who love to spew unwarranted negativity and spout conspiracy theories about everything and anything. It really sucks too, because I really enjoy his take on customer relations and his "pushing" the MLB companies to try and do better. It's awesome to have a CEO of a baseball card company that will basically hang out with us and talk sportscards on here... and he will certainly pack up and leave if he has to continue putting up with this freaking nonsense. It's sad that all the flamers have to constantly bash every little thing about a company that is simply trying to succeed financially and make a product that we will like. I can see that Razor isn't welcome here by a select few, and I'm guessing it will lead to Razor wanting to get the hell away from these boards... thanks guys.

+1

And its a damn shame.


Seriously?

Razor needs this board a lot more than this board needs Razor. Yes, Brian has been very proactive with soliciting opinions for his product from this board. Yes, he has, on the whole, been responsive to members on this board.

But again, don't think this is "for the good of the hobby". Brian is a very intelligent man, and despite the questionable tone in his recent posts, he appears to be very good at customer service.

Brian took everything you wanted and put it into a product. Yes, it's a product that many of you want, but rest assured, he didn't do it for you -- he's running a business and he created the best product possible based on what was good for his bottom line.

Again, he's a good businessman, a smart man, and I mean him no slight, but let's not canonize the guy. He's here because it's in his best interests to be here. Without Razor's presence, I strongly suspect that Jim wouldn't have cracked 10 cases and AIC wouldn't have bought 29. While yes, there are buyers for the product, had BG sat at home and not posted on FCB, the demand wouldn't have been as great.

Rest assured, Brian's not going anywhere. He needs this board. He's threatened to go before, and he's still here.

If ANYTHING, I think Gilmore and the rest of the crew are much more deserving of any freebies that are passed out because, without FCB, I question whether Razor succeeds to the level that they're at now.

You tip a waitress for good service. You tip a blackjack dealer when you're on a roll. You give bonuses to your assistants if you've had a great year. You give some free product to the group that helps you the most.
 

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Jeff N. said:
Seriously?

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You tip a waitress for good service. You tip a blackjack dealer when you're on a roll. You give bonuses to your assistants if you've had a great year. You give some free product to the group that helps you the most.

No one is disagreeing Brian and Razor as a company are in it for the money and that they're on the board because it benefits them. That presence, in turn, benefits the board members whether it be through freebies or general information about a product.

I agree with others, however, in that Brian is going about business in the "right" way. He's making a buck, giving a certain group of collectors what they want, listening to his customers, and (whether you like it or not) lighting a fire under the asses of the other sports cards companies.

Razor is not the only thing influencing the decisions of Topps--economy, reception of 2008 BC--but you can't deny they're not aware of how he's running the operation. And because of that I have a general support for Razor.
 

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rico08 said:
Jeff N. said:
Seriously?

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You tip a waitress for good service. You tip a blackjack dealer when you're on a roll. You give bonuses to your assistants if you've had a great year. You give some free product to the group that helps you the most.

No one is disagreeing Brian and Razor as a company are in it for the money and that they're on the board because it benefits them. That presence, in turn, benefits the board members whether it be through freebies or general information about a product.

I agree with others, however, in that Brian is going about business in the "right" way. He's making a buck, giving a certain group of collectors what they want, listening to his customers, and (whether you like it or not) lighting a fire under the asses of the other sports cards companies.

Razor is not the only thing influencing the decisions of Topps--economy, reception of 2008 BC--but you can't deny they're not aware of how he's running the operation. And because of that I have a general support for Razor.

I beg to disagree about your very first sentence. There are a number of people here who believe that Brian is here because he cares about the consumer, rather than gathering market data, and that he's actually doing good for the hobby.

Based on the data accumulated, and in this thread, I don't think Razor had a major influence on Topps. Some, yes, but not major. Bottom line, does it matter?
 

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Any update if Razor has filed suit against Donruss and Wade Miley?
 

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F-Topps said:
Seems like a lot of fuss over a card I couldnt sell for $1

You don't have to have a valid claim to file a suit.

That being said, there is a claim here. Not one that I would spend money to pursue, but a claim nonetheless.
 

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Jeff N. said:
I beg to disagree about your very first sentence. There are a number of people here who believe that Brian is here because he cares about the consumer, rather than gathering market data, and that he's actually doing good for the hobby.

Based on the data accumulated, and in this thread, I don't think Razor had a major influence on Topps. Some, yes, but not major. Bottom line, does it matter?

I think we can both agree that the bolded people are idiots then.

Now, whether or not Brian's way of going about accumulating players for his checklists will rub off on the other companies...we'll wait and see. If Topps starts doing exclusives, it won't be debatable anymore.
 

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rico08 said:
Jeff N. said:
I beg to disagree about your very first sentence. There are a number of people here who believe that Brian is here because he cares about the consumer, rather than gathering market data, and that he's actually doing good for the hobby.

Based on the data accumulated, and in this thread, I don't think Razor had a major influence on Topps. Some, yes, but not major. Bottom line, does it matter?

I think we can both agree that the bolded people are idiots then.

Now, whether or not Brian's way of going about accumulating players for his checklists will rub off on the other companies...we'll wait and see. If Topps starts doing exclusives, it won't be debatable anymore.

Don't forget - the idea of exclusivity is not Razor's. The companies would commonly ink stars to exclusive deals so that the other companies couldn't get their players autographs. However, now we're talking about prospects. Topps has never had to deal with exclusivity with prospects, because there wasn't enough time in 2004 to acquire exclsuivity, and it was a one year experiment. I don't know how much of a threat Donruss was. If they viewed Donruss as a major threat, they would have tried for exclsuives in 2008.

Even if they do try for exclusives, it's not going to be all due to Razor. It will be due to the unlicensed cards in the hobby as a whole.
 

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