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mrmopar

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I'm talking about brand new products here.

You see it all the time. A new product is released and the new singles start flooding the market on ebay and other sites. Not too long after the initial rush, the singles slow down and pretty soon you rarely see anything from a lot of the sets. It's reasonable to assume that the spike in activity can be attributed to the many dealers who break boxes and cases looking for that quick return, but also set, team, theme and players collectors who chase down anything new that comes out and are scrambling to get it all before it dries up. Eventually the bulk of the wax supply dries up though and/or the specialty collectors have closed the books on that set and there isn't the supply or demand to see much activity.

Most collectors also know that a good percentage of new issues are broken up and sold off immediately, rather than being tucked away into the original owners collection, but have you ever really thought about how much of a given product remains sealed or makes it's way directly into a collection or perhaps to a seller with grand expectations, where it will sit in a box or case for a long time to come because it is overpriced or that seller just isn't making it available yet.

Unless the Rickey Henderson collector (for example) actually pulls that tough Henderson card themselves, he/she will be on the hunt for it and if you pull it and are not a Henderson collector, is the allure of a good and quick return on your investment too much to avoid and you sell the card to the highest bidder like so many do? I'll use myself as an example. When I was still buying packs and I hit something decent, I was not selling on ebay. I was not actively trading much and really had no outlet to rid myself of that card, nor did I really have any desire to do so. I was buying before the "big hit" times anyway, so anything I pulled was just a parallel or an insert, but it all went into my collection. There may be a few items I have that are on want lists, but since I started trading more, I have tried to look for stuff like that and get it into a collectors hands if I had no great attachment to it.

I know there are people who sell everything they get as soon as possible to buy more. They can't get that new card on ebay fast enough (and most collectors are thankful for that type of collector). There are the "I won't trade or sell anything I get no matter what" people (which we all hate…just kidding…or am I? :confused:) and then there are middle ground group, which is probably the majority, who don't necessarily look to get rid of the item, but will if it makes sense or they find themselves in the right situation.

Where do you fall on this spectrum?
 

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I've learned that busting wax is a waste of money for what I collect. Buying singles is by far the most economical way to keep my collection growing. I don't do much flipping/selling/trading however and almost all of my collection has stayed put since I started back in 1984. So I guess I fall under the keeper title.
 

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Say you pulled an attractive Barry Bonds card, but had no special love for him or the card itself, but knew it was highly desired among other bonds or set collectors. Would you attempt to offer it to the market or would you just put it away and move on? That is essentially what I was trying to get across in my wordy explanation.
 

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For myself, if it were a good hit and an easy return I would probably sell it as soon as possible. I'm talking about getting a big name hit from a new product that I know will sell decent.

On the other hand, being a player collector I know what it's like to have my ear to the ground for other Player Collectors as well as them looking out for me. I may make the card a little more available to someone I know collects that player. Only being on this board a short time I communicated with a few Player Collectors such as a Garvey guy or a Belle, Bagwell or Grace guy. Not saying I would give a giant hit away but make it work for both of us.

I do eventually trade/sell my non Yankee stuff so I'm not attached to it.
 

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I'd let it be known it's out there and most everyone knows my collection focus (Rockies low serial #ed team sets / Rockies players serial #ed firsts / lasts / jersey #s ). The problem is hardly anyone ever comes up with something of value to trade with me. I did two trades in the past year - one w/RustyGreerfan because he had a '99 Skybox Thunder Super Rave Larry Walker serial #01 /25 (he got some '98 Tek diffractors for it) and with Rinkrat for 6 Helton diffractors (he got some diffractors in exchange).

It's not like I try to hold valuable cards hostage, my collecting preferences make it hard to work a deal with me because most people don't have what I'm looking for.

I'm also comfortable in life financially which puts no pressure on me to move that hot Bonds card - it doesn't affect me negatively keeping it in my collection. This is 100% a hobby for me - if I can make an extra buck great but that's not what I do this for.
 

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I'd let it be known it's out there and most everyone knows my collection focus (Rockies low serial #ed team sets / Rockies players serial #ed firsts / lasts / jersey #s ). The problem is hardly anyone ever comes up with something of value to trade with me. I did two trades in the past year - one w/RustyGreerfan because he had a '99 Skybox Thunder Super Rave Larry Walker serial #01 /25 (he got some '98 Tek diffractors for it) and with Rinkrat for 6 Helton diffractors (he got some diffractors in exchange).

It's not like I try to hold valuable cards hostage, my collecting preferences make it hard to work a deal with me because most people don't have what I'm looking for.

I'm also comfortable in life financially which puts no pressure on me to move that hot Bonds card - it doesn't affect me negatively keeping it in my collection. This is 100% a hobby for me - if I can make an extra buck great but that's not what I do this for.
Using you as an example, having the numbered cards of Bernie that I collect (close to 110 of them) it is hard to make a trade because your collection is narrowed down to being that specific. Even if I happen to see that special Rockies numbered card on EBay or COMC I would be sure you already have your eyes on it.

By the way, my offer still stands that I would be willing to hit a fair EBay BIN for a card/cards you would want to make that trade happen for those Bernie's.
 

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Generally, I only open products loaded with prospect autos like Leaf draft, sterling, Eee, etc.

Ain't no way I'm listing a common auto of an 18 yr old and getting $3

I have no problem holding it, no problem.


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Dealers are a different group, but I included them, because a lot want to get a quick return and probably do list stuff quickly a lot of the time. There are always going to be sleeper deals that slide by if people are willing to list things at say $0.99 and let the market decide. I'm actually more curious about the collectors who do still buy unopened and may pull that big hit of something they care little about. If there was a print run of 25 and 8-10 hit ebay in the first month after the product was released, most are ending up in collections for a while. The rest with either surface over time slowly or not at all. I'm just wondering, not looking for specifics or hard numbers, but how many of these gems that a player collector would kill for that are locked up for no other reason but the owner doesn't care about trading /selling it or in some cases, there isn't anything out there for them available worth trading the card for.
 

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Dealers are a different group, but I included them, because a lot want to get a quick return and probably do list stuff quickly a lot of the time. There are always going to be sleeper deals that slide by if people are willing to list things at say $0.99 and let the market decide. I'm actually more curious about the collectors who do still buy unopened and may pull that big hit of something they care little about. If there was a print run of 25 and 8-10 hit ebay in the first month after the product was released, most are ending up in collections for a while. The rest with either surface over time slowly or not at all. I'm just wondering, not looking for specifics or hard numbers, but how many of these gems that a player collector would kill for that are locked up for no other reason but the owner doesn't care about trading /selling it or in some cases, there isn't anything out there for them available worth trading the card for.

It gets even tougher when you start to take into account many baseball players have international influence. I'll use Hideo Nomo as an example. His 90's inserts are some of the toughest to locate because they never surface on the market. Japanese collectors scooped up everything back in the 90s and rarely does any of it show up out there. I also wonder about the impact of the tsunami on Japan and if collections were destroyed.
 

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