What team pulls the highest premium? (after Yankees and Sox)

[Topnotchsy]

easily the Mets

I agree 100%. People are making the mistake of confusing prices with premiums. Sure the Braves prospects are selling well, because they are great prospects!! Put them in NY (in a Yankee uniform or a Mets uniform) and prices would be significantly higher.

edit: I also never really understood the point of using polls for questions like this. Polls make a ton of sense for questions that discuss people's opinions. When the question is not a subjective one, it makes little sense to base a decision based on poll results, as this means that everyone's "opinion" counts the same, which just does not make sense. There are some who have followed the market closely for years and have a great handle on it, while others are simply speculating or guessing.

 

[AKA Coastal]

easily the Mets

I agree 100%. People are making the mistake of confusing prices with premiums. Sure the Braves prospects are selling well, because they are great prospects!! Put them in NY (in a Yankee uniform or a Mets uniform) and prices would be significantly higher.

How much more would Tommy Hanson cards bring if he was with the Mets?

 

[daveyou]

no tampa with longo, price, beckham?

dave

 

[Topnotchsy]

easily the Mets

I agree 100%. People are making the mistake of confusing prices with premiums. Sure the Braves prospects are selling well, because they are great prospects!! Put them in NY (in a Yankee uniform or a Mets uniform) and prices would be significantly higher.

How much more would Tommy Hanson cards bring if he was with the Mets?

No way to know exact numbers, but check out the increases on players like K-Rod when they came to NY, the drops that guys like Gomez got being traded from NY, and the prices on guys like F-Mart. (Also check my edit to my post above.)

 

[AKA Coastal]

no tampa with longo, price, beckham?

dave

If any of those guys played for the teams listed in the poll I think they would sell for much more than they do now.

 

[AKA Coastal]

easily the Mets

I agree 100%. People are making the mistake of confusing prices with premiums. Sure the Braves prospects are selling well, because they are great prospects!! Put them in NY (in a Yankee uniform or a Mets uniform) and prices would be significantly higher.

How much more would Tommy Hanson cards bring if he was with the Mets?

No way to know exact numbers, but check out the increases on players like K-Rod when they came to NY, the drops that guys like Gomez got being traded from NY, and the prices on guys like F-Mart. (Also check my edit to my post above.)

You can compare F-Mart to Rasmus and both bring the same prices. If they switched teams you think the prices would change?

 

[Topnotchsy]

no tampa with longo, price, beckham?

dave

Historically Tampa has been one of the absolute worst markets for players. They have gotten better recently (especially since people generally believe that their prospects will develop into stars and are not overhyped) but the prices that Tampa prospects got was in spite of playing in Tampa, not because of playing in Tampa. If Price was a Yankee, Met, Red Sox etc. his prices would have been much much higher.

 

[Topnotchsy]

[quote="AKA Coastal":1oartfhi]

easily the Mets

I agree 100%. People are making the mistake of confusing prices with premiums. Sure the Braves prospects are selling well, because they are great prospects!! Put them in NY (in a Yankee uniform or a Mets uniform) and prices would be significantly higher.

How much more would Tommy Hanson cards bring if he was with the Mets?

No way to know exact numbers, but check out the increases on players like K-Rod when they came to NY, the drops that guys like Gomez got being traded from NY, and the prices on guys like F-Mart. (Also check my edit to my post above.)

You can compare F-Mart to Rasmus and both bring the same prices. If they switched teams you think the prices would change?[/quote:1oartfhi]F-Mart is a prospect who is a decent amount from the majors with majors questions about his game. Rasmus has been considered one of the very best prospects in baseball for a couple of years now, and could make an impact this season. If Rasmus was drafted by NY and F-Mart by St. Louis (since trades always affect value, it's easier to assume they were drafted or originally signed by the team) I believe prices would be way different, and F-Mart's prices would be significantly lower.

 

[AKA Coastal]

easily the Mets

I agree 100%. People are making the mistake of confusing prices with premiums. Sure the Braves prospects are selling well, because they are great prospects!! Put them in NY (in a Yankee uniform or a Mets uniform) and prices would be significantly higher.

edit: I also never really understood the point of using polls for questions like this. Polls make a ton of sense for questions that discuss people's opinions. When the question is not a subjective one, it makes little sense to base a decision based on poll results, as this means that everyone's "opinion" counts the same, which just does not make sense. There are some who have followed the market closely for years and have a great handle on it, while others are simply speculating or guessing.

I was just trying to stir up a conversation. Not putting much into the poll results.

 

[AKA Coastal]

[quote="AKA Coastal":1vgygee1]

easily the Mets

I agree 100%. People are making the mistake of confusing prices with premiums. Sure the Braves prospects are selling well, because they are great prospects!! Put them in NY (in a Yankee uniform or a Mets uniform) and prices would be significantly higher.

How much more would Tommy Hanson cards bring if he was with the Mets?

No way to know exact numbers, but check out the increases on players like K-Rod when they came to NY, the drops that guys like Gomez got being traded from NY, and the prices on guys like F-Mart. (Also check my edit to my post above.)

You can compare F-Mart to Rasmus and both bring the same prices. If they switched teams you think the prices would change?

F-Mart is a prospect who is a decent amount from the majors with majors questions about his game. Rasmus has been considered one of the very best prospects in baseball for a couple of years now, and could make an impact this season. If Rasmus was drafted by NY and F-Mart by St. Louis (since trades always affect value, it's easier to assume they were drafted or originally signed by the team) I believe prices would be way different, and F-Mart's prices would be significantly lower.[/quote:1vgygee1]


Could the fact that the Mets don't have many prospects to choose from inflate the prices of their highly touted prospects? I just don't put the Mets in the same category as the Red Sox and Yankees.

 

[Jays_Cards]

[quote="AKA Coastal":1tu9f0pj]

[quote="AKA Coastal":1tu9f0pj]

easily the Mets

I agree 100%. People are making the mistake of confusing prices with premiums. Sure the Braves prospects are selling well, because they are great prospects!! Put them in NY (in a Yankee uniform or a Mets uniform) and prices would be significantly higher.

How much more would Tommy Hanson cards bring if he was with the Mets?

No way to know exact numbers, but check out the increases on players like K-Rod when they came to NY, the drops that guys like Gomez got being traded from NY, and the prices on guys like F-Mart. (Also check my edit to my post above.)

You can compare F-Mart to Rasmus and both bring the same prices. If they switched teams you think the prices would change?

F-Mart is a prospect who is a decent amount from the majors with majors questions about his game. Rasmus has been considered one of the very best prospects in baseball for a couple of years now, and could make an impact this season. If Rasmus was drafted by NY and F-Mart by St. Louis (since trades always affect value, it's easier to assume they were drafted or originally signed by the team) I believe prices would be way different, and F-Mart's prices would be significantly lower.[/quote:1tu9f0pj]


Could the fact that the Mets don't have many prospects to choose from inflate the prices of their highly touted prospects? I just don't put the Mets in the same category as the Red Sox and Yankees.[/quote:1tu9f0pj]

If Fmart was on any other team than the Yanks, Sox, or Mets, he would sell for roughly 25% of what he sells for now, imo. The reason Mets prospects sales are low right now is because they dont have any great prospects. If you put Price in the Mets system, his prices would be close to double what they are now, IMO.

 

[Topnotchsy]

Could the fact that the Mets don't have many prospects to choose from inflate the prices of their highly touted prospects? I just don't put the Mets in the same category as the Red Sox and Yankees.

I wouldn't put the Mets as high as either the Sox or Yanks, but I do think that they definitely are #3. I don't really think the number of prospects a team has at a given time makes much of a difference (as a matter of fact, teams with a ton of prospects like the Rays for the last few years and now the Braves seem to get more attention, and I think it actually helps prices, as people rate the players higher because they trust the organization more.)

Prospects are also not the only players that are affected. When Teixeira became an Angel his cards went down. Same when he went to the Braves. When K-Rod went to the Mets his cards jumped significantly.

At this point in time when a player is was on the market for some time and then gets traded, if he does not go to the Yanks, Sox or Mets, his cards pretty much go down as the market goes up on word that the player might be traded as people anticipate a trade to one of these 3 teams. (I know some might disagree with me, but I challenge anyone who has closely followed the market to bring statistics that refute this.

 

[HoustonTeams4Me]

easily the Mets

edit: I also never really understood the point of using polls for questions like this. Polls make a ton of sense for questions that discuss people's opinions. When the question is not a subjective one, it makes little sense to base a decision based on poll results, as this means that everyone's "opinion" counts the same, which just does not make sense. There are some who have followed the market closely for years and have a great handle on it, while others are simply speculating or guessing.

I don't think anyone on these board's are basing a decision from the poll result's, and why would they being that poll's are normally nothing more than opinion's (you may say NY Mets & it is your right as that is your opinion, I've seen plenty of "no-name" prospect's from the Dodger's sell like they were just put on BA's Hot Sheet; as well as prospect's from the Cubs & White Sox). This is a message board & these poll's are entertaining & a means to creating thoughtful conversation & debate. This makes it easy to see the sense in creating "Poll/Thread's" such as this one & to understand why someone would create it!

 

[bballcardkid]

I voted for the Braves.

 

[boxbreaker]

the braves seem to have a lot of collectors as fans.