Which RB would you rather have?

[cowboysrule48]

It depends one the purpose.

Fantasy right now would be Johnson, on a real life time I think Jackson is better.

Color me confused.. :?

What is the difference between fantasy statistics and game statistics?

Come on man.. :lol:

Let's put it this way. Give me SJax in 2007 and prior. For 2008 and forward? I got dibs on CJ.

There is a big difference between fantasy player vs. real life player.

I guess you would take Schaub over Peyton on your team?

Here we go... refer to my post above. Let's try our best to keep it in context.

But to answer your question, hell yes I would have and did because Peyton was getting drafted in 1st and 2nd rounds. Why would I pass on top tier RB's for any QB? Let me guess, you're that guy who took Peyton with your #1 pick didn't you? :lol:

Once again I'm not talking about fantasy...

 

[lumm0x]

3) Try trading Jackson for CJ in ANY fantasy league. Just remember, they're laughing WITH you, not AT you! :lol:

Color me confused.. :?

What is the difference between fantasy statistics and game statistics?

Come on man.. :lol:

Not sure how fantasy numbers got brought into this

Bottom line is they are two different but great backs and I doubt there are a handful of teams that would not like to upgrade to either one of them.....yes even the Saints with Pierre Thomas :lol:

 

[Viking4Alpha]

3) Try trading Jackson for CJ in ANY fantasy league. Just remember, they're laughing WITH you, not AT you! :lol:

Color me confused.. :?

What is the difference between fantasy statistics and game statistics?

Come on man.. :lol:

Not sure how fantasy numbers got brought into this

Bottom line is they are two different but great backs and I doubt there are a handful of teams that would not like to upgrade to either one of them.....yes even the Saints with Pierre Thomas :lol:

:lol: True, I did say that but really, what difference does it make? One of these guys is on their way to a 2K season, while the other will struggle to get half of that. That was my point.

Do I want the fastest man in the NFL who is on course for 2,000 yards, or the other guy? I just don't see the comparison.

 

[cowboysrule48]

3) Try trading Jackson for CJ in ANY fantasy league. Just remember, they're laughing WITH you, not AT you! :lol:

Color me confused.. :?

What is the difference between fantasy statistics and game statistics?

Come on man.. :lol:

Not sure how fantasy numbers got brought into this

Bottom line is they are two different but great backs and I doubt there are a handful of teams that would not like to upgrade to either one of them.....yes even the Saints with Pierre Thomas :lol:

:lol: True, I did say that but really, what difference does it make? One of these guys is on their way to a 2K season, while the other will struggle to get half of that. That was my point.

Do I want the fastest man in the NFL who is on course for 2,000 yards, or the other guy? I just don't see the comparison.

Oh so Steven Jackson is going to struggle to pick up 216 yards over his last 8th games?

 

[Card Magnet]

I think if you put CJ on the Rams, he would out perform Jackson.

Yes, Jackson can blast through people, but Johnson can get around them. Power is only good when you can protect at the line to allow the back to gain momentum. With Johnson, he is not only fast, but he's quick and explosive. He can make something happen where a guy like Jackson goes down early.

 

[Viking4Alpha]

Once again I'm not talking about fantasy...

Really? You had me fooled...

Again, one guy is on course to making NFL history, while the other guys goal is just to get the casual 1,000 yards.

Where's the confusion? I mean, really, you can try to swing it to any side you'd like, CJ is the better back at this point. Prove to me otherwise.

 

[Card Magnet]

Once again I'm not talking about fantasy...

Really? You had me fooled...

Again, one guy is on course to making NFL history, while the other guys goal is just to get the casual 1,000 yards.

Where's the confusion? I mean, really, you can try to swing it to any side you'd like, CJ is the better back at this point. Prove to me otherwise.

This...is Chewbacca. What does that have to do with football? Nothing. It doesn't make sense. What's a huge Wookie doing living on Endor with little Ewoks? It doesn't make sense. Claiming CJ is the greater back, well, this is Chewbacca. It doesn't make any sense.

 

[Viking4Alpha]

3) Try trading Jackson for CJ in ANY fantasy league. Just remember, they're laughing WITH you, not AT you! :lol:

Color me confused.. :?

What is the difference between fantasy statistics and game statistics?

Come on man.. :lol:

Not sure how fantasy numbers got brought into this

Bottom line is they are two different but great backs and I doubt there are a handful of teams that would not like to upgrade to either one of them.....yes even the Saints with Pierre Thomas :lol:

:lol: True, I did say that but really, what difference does it make? One of these guys is on their way to a 2K season, while the other will struggle to get half of that. That was my point.

Do I want the fastest man in the NFL who is on course for 2,000 yards, or the other guy? I just don't see the comparison.

Oh so Steven Jackson is going to struggle to pick up 216 yards over his last 8th games?

Farther and farther we get off course. I love it! :lol: Point is, Jax is half the RB CJ is this season.

Another doozy for you- who was the better RB last season? Hint: It wasnt Jackson either.

 

[dfr52]

Posed question was "which RB would you rather have"? And then we try to take it out of context by comparing fantasy football and real time? Right.... Numbers are numbers. ESPECIALLY when the comparison of the two teams is so similar.

Not one person has described how Jackson is better than CJ yet. That's what I find funny. "He's a harder runner"? Uh... ok? So is Marion Barber and several other bruiser type RB's.

Speed kills. Keep your "hard running" RB, I'll watch SJax from the endzone with CJ while Jax struggles desperately to make his way out of the redzone, letalone the endzone.

Not really sure what the Jackson fans are failing to see here to be honest. Both teams are GARBAGE this season. Can't do anything but run the ball for the most part, in which case all the D has to do is stack the box in order to contain. Here's a hint:

One of these men is STILL finding holes, making plays, and burning defenses alive. The other is not.

I'd argue Jackson is doing just as well as Johnson in those categories w/ an OL that is 90's Bengals bad.lol Even w/ stacking the box the Titans still have a good OL, the same one that played so well last season. Jackson isn't a slouch either when it comes to speed and he brings power to go w/ that. Age isn't a concern at this point since Jackson is only 26 (Johnson is 24). Jackson entered the league at 21 while Johnson was a rookie at 23. Johnson's age could limit his numbers because he got a late start at a position where age is a huge factor.

 

[cowboysrule48]

Once again I'm not talking about fantasy...

Really? You had me fooled...

Again, one guy is on course to making NFL history, while the other guys goal is just to get the casual 1,000 yards.

Where's the confusion? I mean, really, you can try to swing it to any side you'd like, CJ is the better back at this point. Prove to me otherwise.

You are the one that tried to make it about fantasy talking about Schaub/Manning draft positions.

Sure Chris Johnson has more big play potential, but a lot of the games he racked up big yards in, the majority came on one play, and besides that one play his numbers were less than impressive. I'd rather take the guy that is more consistent.

Oh, and Jackson is going to surpass 1,000 by a pretty wide margin...

It's obvious that you are a fan of his and nothing anyone says is going to change your mind.

I don't see how I am getting off course. You said that Jackson would struggle to attain the 1,000 yard mark...

 

[dfr52]

I think if you put CJ on the Rams, he would out perform Jackson.

Yes, Jackson can blast through people, but Johnson can get around them. Power is only good when you can protect at the line to allow the back to gain momentum. With Johnson, he is not only fast, but he's quick and explosive. He can make something happen where a guy like Jackson goes down early.

Granted Jackson doesn't have Johnson's speed but he's a fast back.

 

[Viking4Alpha]

I'd argue Jackson is doing just as well as Johnson in those categories.

How so? Curious. I would refer to the numbers, but I'm sure we'd be bound for Schaub/Manning tangents. :lol:

Riddle me this: how many big yardage runs has Jackson busted off this year? How many big yardage runs has CJ busted off?

 

[cowboysrule48]

I'd argue Jackson is doing just as well as Johnson in those categories.

How so? Curious. I would refer to the numbers, but I'm sure we'd be bound for Schaub/Manning tangents. :lol:

Riddle me this: how many big yardage runs has Jackson busted off this year? How many big yardage runs has CJ busted off?

You're the one that said stats was all that mattered when it came to who was better, and who you would rather have. I was just using that to prove why that isn't always the case.

 

[dfr52]

I'd argue Jackson is doing just as well as Johnson in those categories.

How so? Curious. I would refer to the numbers, but I'm sure we'd be bound for Schaub/Manning tangents. :lol:

Riddle me this: how many big yardage runs has Jackson busted off this year? How many big yardage runs has CJ busted off?

Yards per game are close w/ Johnson avg. 119 and Jackson avg. 98. IMO Jackson's numbers are more impressive b/c of the lack of talent on the Rams as compared to the Titans. I couldn't find the stat for 20 plus yard runs. I can't deny he's explosive but I would go w/ Jackson b/c I like his blend of speed and power as others have described. You can't go wrong w/ either though.

 

[Card Magnet]

While Jackson may be close on yards per game, he does that on more carries too. CJ has a greater ypc.

 

[Viking4Alpha]

Once again I'm not talking about fantasy...

Really? You had me fooled...

Again, one guy is on course to making NFL history, while the other guys goal is just to get the casual 1,000 yards.

Where's the confusion? I mean, really, you can try to swing it to any side you'd like, CJ is the better back at this point. Prove to me otherwise.

You are the one that tried to make it about fantasy talking about Schaub/Manning draft positions.

Sure Chris Johnson has more big play potential, but a lot of the games he racked up big yards in, the majority came on one play, and besides that one play his numbers were less than impressive. I'd rather take the guy that is more consistent.

Oh, and Jackson is going to surpass 1,000 by a pretty wide margin...

It's obvious that you are a fan of his and nothing anyone says is going to change your mind.

I don't see how I am getting off course. You said that Jackson would struggle to attain the 1,000 yard mark...

Um... no.

I answered a question you had about draft strategy. Nice try.

Consistency? We really want to go there? No problem.

Chris Johnson: 6.7 YPC / 959 Yards Rushing

Steven Jackson: 4.8 YPC / 784 Yards Rushing

Might want to know what you're talking about.

 

[cowboysrule48]

What?

How is me saying there is a big difference between a fantasy player and a real player a question about draft strategy?

Like I said, his long runs inflate the averages. Jackson only has one game this season with under 80 total yards, can you say the same about Johnson?

 

[Viking4Alpha]

I'd argue Jackson is doing just as well as Johnson in those categories.

How so? Curious. I would refer to the numbers, but I'm sure we'd be bound for Schaub/Manning tangents. :lol:

Riddle me this: how many big yardage runs has Jackson busted off this year? How many big yardage runs has CJ busted off?

You're the one that said stats was all that mattered when it came to who was better, and who you would rather have. I was just using that to prove why that isn't always the case.

In the case of a CJ/SJax thread, how WOULDN'T the numbers be the case?

 

[cowboysrule48]

I'd argue Jackson is doing just as well as Johnson in those categories.

How so? Curious. I would refer to the numbers, but I'm sure we'd be bound for Schaub/Manning tangents. :lol:

Riddle me this: how many big yardage runs has Jackson busted off this year? How many big yardage runs has CJ busted off?

You're the one that said stats was all that mattered when it came to who was better, and who you would rather have. I was just using that to prove why that isn't always the case.

In the case of a CJ/SJax thread, how WOULDN'T the numbers be the case?

How come you can't get this through your head? I'm not talking about fantasy numbers, I'm talking about who I want on my REAL life team that will give them a better chance to win week in and week out. I'd rather not NEED a huge run for my back to have a good game, which is what Johnson seems to rely upon for his.

 

[Card Magnet]

Why wouldn't you want a guy who can break a big run. The last I checked, a 40 yard run is better than a 4 yard.