Who's buying Mike Trout?

[jbhofmann]

:shock:

 

[LazerShow15]

I remember saying to myself back in 2001 that there was no room for Albert Pujols cards to keep going up. Boy was I wrong as well as others in the hobby. There is always room for growth in the hobby as they get scarfed up by collectors all over the world.

 

[JVC]

To all of you who are saying that Trout won't increase or maintain value because of his current lack of power, I have one name for you: Grady Sizemore. Sizemore got tons of hype because of his tools even through his first few years in the majors. His cards were through the roof all based on hype and potential. All of Trout's scouting reports say he's a very strong kid and should develop more power down the road. I understand that part of the Sizemore hype was because only had one auto rc but he also never made #1 on all the prospect lists.

 

[mwashuc06]

I remember saying to myself back in 2001 that there was no room for Albert Pujols cards to keep going up. Boy was I wrong as well as others in the hobby. There is always room for growth in the hobby as they get scarfed up by collectors all over the world.

Pujols is also the best player of our generation. I don't think Trout has that talent.

 

[shayscards79]

If anybody actually needed proof that hype sells cards, just look at how Machado base autos are selling for $70 now. Which is crazy considering regular refractors aren't going for much more now and his blues have come down a little.

 

[LazerShow15]

I remember saying to myself back in 2001 that there was no room for Albert Pujols cards to keep going up. Boy was I wrong as well as others in the hobby. There is always room for growth in the hobby as they get scarfed up by collectors all over the world.

Pujols is also the best player of our generation. I don't think Trout has that talent.

And in 2001 you knew that I bet, that he would be the best player of our generation. Nobody did.

 

[autorook]

Too late in the game to buy his cards, they skyrocketed like nobody's business.

 

[aminors]

This is NOT Mike Trout's peak. I promise. There is meat left on the bone, and I think refractor autos are a deal at 120-125 (chromes are 80-90, and Xs are around 2 bens), and sure to rise.

Smart people who have lots of extra $ to tie up are buying him, and they WILL make money. I'd put money on that (see what I did there?).

It's not over.

http://cgi.ebay.com/2009-Bowman-Chrome- ... 500wt_1156

http://cgi.ebay.com/2009-Bowman-Chrome- ... 500wt_1156

I'm not usually a told-ya-so-er, but..

 

[AKA Coastal]

This is NOT Mike Trout's peak. I promise. There is meat left on the bone, and I think refractor autos are a deal at 120-125 (chromes are 80-90, and Xs are around 2 bens), and sure to rise.

Smart people who have lots of extra $ to tie up are buying him, and they WILL make money. I'd put money on that (see what I did there?).

It's not over.

http://cgi.ebay.com/2009-Bowman-Chrome- ... 500wt_1156

http://cgi.ebay.com/2009-Bowman-Chrome- ... 500wt_1156

I'm not usually a told-ya-so-er, but..

AA pitching can bring you back down to earth pretty quick. Power can carry you as a prospect if other stats are lacking out of gate. I love seeing people make money in the hobby ,but this just isn't a good bet. Hell, I hope he tears it up.

 

[jbhofmann]

I'm still trying to comprehend why people care about his production for the upcoming season. Hype, not stats are going to carry him to the mountain top. Then.....

 

[FortyFour]

I'm still trying to comprehend why people care about his production for the upcoming season. Hype, not stats are going to carry him to the mountain top. Then.....

Hype will end when he struggles.

 

[jcmint]

To all of you who are saying that Trout won't increase or maintain value because of his current lack of power, I have one name for you: Grady Sizemore. Sizemore got tons of hype because of his tools even through his first few years in the majors. His cards were through the roof all based on hype and potential. All of Trout's scouting reports say he's a very strong kid and should develop more power down the road. I understand that part of the Sizemore hype was because only had one auto rc but he also never made #1 on all the prospect lists.

This has everything to do with sizemores prices. Most people here are simply saying buying in on trout now is not smart at all. The risk far outweighs the payout.

 

[ThoseBackPages]

i think the better question would be:

"Who ON FCB is Buying Mike Trout?"

we all know that the sheep heard on eBay is THE largest heard in the world, no doubt about that.

But lets not forget the large-sized heard we have here on FCB

 

[joey12508]

i think the better question would be:

"Who ON FCB is Buying Mike Trout?"

we all know that the sheep heard on eBay is THE largest heard in the world, no doubt about that.

But lets not forget the large-sized heard we have here on FCB

your right on the money brother.

 

[shayscards79]

Noticed his last few cards have gone down a bit

 

[200lbhockeyplayer]

This is NOT Mike Trout's peak. I promise. There is meat left on the bone, and I think refractor autos are a deal at 120-125 (chromes are 80-90, and Xs are around 2 bens), and sure to rise.

Smart people who have lots of extra $ to tie up are buying him, and they WILL make money. I'd put money on that (see what I did there?).

It's not over.

http://cgi.ebay.com/2009-Bowman-Chrome- ... 500wt_1156

http://cgi.ebay.com/2009-Bowman-Chrome- ... 500wt_1156

I'm not usually a told-ya-so-er, but..

It takes a special kind of person to quote themselves, but if you want a pat on the back, pat away.

Of course, your two examples aren't really showing that refractors at $120-125 were a deal. Assume $3 shipping right, bringing the purchase total at $123.

The seller then sells a refractor autograph with free shipping for $145 BO. Lop off close to 10% for the eBay BO fees, along with the Paypal fees of 3%, add in the free shipping and where are we? Somewhere in the range of $22 in either fees or shipping.

$145-22=$123.

The second link sold for $159.99 with $4.50 shipping so it should come to...
SALE PRICE: $159.99
+ SHIPPING: $4.50
= $164.49

EBAY FEES: $15
PAYPAL FEES: $5
ACTUAL SHIPPING: $3 (assuming insurance)
= $23

NET: $141.49

So assuming that they bought in at $120 (being that they were a deal with room to grow), your investment generates $21.49. Is that an acceptable return? Sure, who wouldn't love to generate 13% profit on everything, but this scenario is very different than the first where the return was a negligible 2% at most.

Is there a possibility that these maintain a $160 sell point? Sure. Is there a possibility that Trout snaps a femur stepping on first base after legging out a ground ball? Sure.

My opinion remains, if you're into Trout in the slightest, the odds favor selling now...not later.

(Of note, the weekly trend on Trout base autographs is that they are skewing lower than last week.)

 

[hail2thevictors]

This is NOT Mike Trout's peak. I promise. There is meat left on the bone, and I think refractor autos are a deal at 120-125 (chromes are 80-90, and Xs are around 2 bens), and sure to rise.

Smart people who have lots of extra $ to tie up are buying him, and they WILL make money. I'd put money on that (see what I did there?).

It's not over.

http://cgi.ebay.com/2009-Bowman-Chrome- ... 500wt_1156

http://cgi.ebay.com/2009-Bowman-Chrome- ... 500wt_1156

I'm not usually a told-ya-so-er, but..

It takes a special kind of person to quote themselves, but if you want a pat on the back, pat away.

Of course, your two examples aren't really showing that refractors at $120-125 were a deal. Assume $3 shipping right, bringing the purchase total at $123.

The seller then sells a refractor autograph with free shipping for $145 BO. Lop off close to 10% for the eBay BO fees, along with the Paypal fees of 3%, add in the free shipping and where are we? Somewhere in the range of $22 in either fees or shipping.

$145-22=$123.

The second link sold for $159.99 with $4.50 shipping so it should come to...
SALE PRICE: $159.99
+ SHIPPING: $4.50
= $164.49

EBAY FEES: $15
PAYPAL FEES: $5
ACTUAL SHIPPING: $3 (assuming insurance)
= $23

NET: $141.49

So assuming that they bought in at $120 (being that they were a deal with room to grow), your investment generates $21.49. Is that an acceptable return? Sure, who wouldn't love to generate 13% profit on everything, but this scenario is very different than the first where the return was a negligible 2% at most.

Is there a possibility that these maintain a $160 sell point? Sure. Is there a possibility that Trout snaps a femur stepping on first base after legging out a ground ball? Sure.

My opinion remains, if you're into Trout in the slightest, the odds favor selling now...not later.

(Of note, the weekly trend on Trout base autographs is that they are skewing lower than last week.)

Regarding what I bolded-the odds favor at least waiting out the BA top 100. Selling before he is named the #1 prospect by BA would be a mistake.

And, if his stuff is skewing lower than last week-I don't see that as a huge deal. The reason is-there are still some baseball fans out there who have no idea who Trout is. So, there are potential buyers still out there in my opinion. And, baseball hasn't begun to get much publicity on a national level. Once ST starts, I expect he will keep rolling.

I guess I just cannot fathom why anyone would sell Trout before the BA list comes out, and before ST. But, that is just me. You have waited this long, why leave money on the table now?

 

[aminors]

This is NOT Mike Trout's peak. I promise. There is meat left on the bone, and I think refractor autos are a deal at 120-125 (chromes are 80-90, and Xs are around 2 bens), and sure to rise.

Smart people who have lots of extra $ to tie up are buying him, and they WILL make money. I'd put money on that (see what I did there?).

It's not over.

http://cgi.ebay.com/2009-Bowman-Chrome- ... 500wt_1156

http://cgi.ebay.com/2009-Bowman-Chrome- ... 500wt_1156

I'm not usually a told-ya-so-er, but..

It takes a special kind of person to quote themselves, but if you want a pat on the back, pat away.

Of course, your two examples aren't really showing that refractors at $120-125 were a deal. Assume $3 shipping right, bringing the purchase total at $123.

The seller then sells a refractor autograph with free shipping for $145 BO. Lop off close to 10% for the eBay BO fees, along with the Paypal fees of 3%, add in the free shipping and where are we? Somewhere in the range of $22 in either fees or shipping.

$145-22=$123.

The second link sold for $159.99 with $4.50 shipping so it should come to...
SALE PRICE: $159.99
+ SHIPPING: $4.50
= $164.49

EBAY FEES: $15
PAYPAL FEES: $5
ACTUAL SHIPPING: $3 (assuming insurance)
= $23

NET: $141.49

So assuming that they bought in at $120 (being that they were a deal with room to grow), your investment generates $21.49. Is that an acceptable return? Sure, who wouldn't love to generate 13% profit on everything, but this scenario is very different than the first where the return was a negligible 2% at most.

Is there a possibility that these maintain a $160 sell point? Sure. Is there a possibility that Trout snaps a femur stepping on first base after legging out a ground ball? Sure.

My opinion remains, if you're into Trout in the slightest, the odds favor selling now...not later.

(Of note, the weekly trend on Trout base autographs is that they are skewing lower than last week.)

Regarding what I bolded-the odds favor at least waiting out the BA top 100. Selling before he is named the #1 prospect by BA would be a mistake.

And, if his stuff is skewing lower than last week-I don't see that as a huge deal. The reason is-there are still some baseball fans out there who have no idea who Trout is. So, there are potential buyers still out there in my opinion. And, baseball hasn't begun to get much publicity on a national level. Once ST starts, I expect he will keep rolling.

I guess I just cannot fathom why anyone would sell Trout before the BA list comes out, and before ST. But, that is just me. You have waited this long, why leave money on the table now?

In addition to what he said, your math is wrong. With all due respect, guessing is not the answer. Total profit would be $30.62 (Net of $150.62) if you bought for 120 even. 25.517% profit.

If I bought one card on some day and sold six days later, hell yeah I'd take 25.517% profit. Just let me know who to pay.

http://www.rolbe.com/etsy.htm

 

[200lbhockeyplayer]

This is NOT Mike Trout's peak. I promise. There is meat left on the bone, and I think refractor autos are a deal at 120-125 (chromes are 80-90, and Xs are around 2 bens), and sure to rise.

Smart people who have lots of extra $ to tie up are buying him, and they WILL make money. I'd put money on that (see what I did there?).

It's not over.

http://cgi.ebay.com/2009-Bowman-Chrome- ... 500wt_1156

http://cgi.ebay.com/2009-Bowman-Chrome- ... 500wt_1156

I'm not usually a told-ya-so-er, but..

It takes a special kind of person to quote themselves, but if you want a pat on the back, pat away.

Of course, your two examples aren't really showing that refractors at $120-125 were a deal. Assume $3 shipping right, bringing the purchase total at $123.

The seller then sells a refractor autograph with free shipping for $145 BO. Lop off close to 10% for the eBay BO fees, along with the Paypal fees of 3%, add in the free shipping and where are we? Somewhere in the range of $22 in either fees or shipping.

$145-22=$123.

The second link sold for $159.99 with $4.50 shipping so it should come to...
SALE PRICE: $159.99
+ SHIPPING: $4.50
= $164.49

EBAY FEES: $15
PAYPAL FEES: $5
ACTUAL SHIPPING: $3 (assuming insurance)
= $23

NET: $141.49

So assuming that they bought in at $120 (being that they were a deal with room to grow), your investment generates $21.49. Is that an acceptable return? Sure, who wouldn't love to generate 13% profit on everything, but this scenario is very different than the first where the return was a negligible 2% at most.

Is there a possibility that these maintain a $160 sell point? Sure. Is there a possibility that Trout snaps a femur stepping on first base after legging out a ground ball? Sure.

My opinion remains, if you're into Trout in the slightest, the odds favor selling now...not later.

(Of note, the weekly trend on Trout base autographs is that they are skewing lower than last week.)

Regarding what I bolded-the odds favor at least waiting out the BA top 100. Selling before he is named the #1 prospect by BA would be a mistake.

And, if his stuff is skewing lower than last week-I don't see that as a huge deal. The reason is-there are still some baseball fans out there who have no idea who Trout is. So, there are potential buyers still out there in my opinion. And, baseball hasn't begun to get much publicity on a national level. Once ST starts, I expect he will keep rolling.

I guess I just cannot fathom why anyone would sell Trout before the BA list comes out, and before ST. But, that is just me. You have waited this long, why leave money on the table now?

In addition to what he said, your math is wrong. With all due respect, guessing is not the answer. Total profit would be $30.62 (Net of $150.62) if you bought for 120 even. 25.517% profit.

If I bought one card on some day and sold six days later, hell yeah I'd take 25.517% profit. Just let me know who to pay.

http://www.rolbe.com/etsy.htm

Just wanting to bump this thread after the raging surge in Trout pricing since being named the #2 prospect in baseball.

And aminors..."with all due respect" your etsy calculator link may do wonders in selling your grandmother's old underpanties...but the eBay calculator lists the "actual" as $143.32. And while my "guessing is not the answer" I did guess $141.49...a whopping $1.83 off.

And yes, a 16.5% profit is certainly acceptable to turn in a week (or most any other time) as I stated regarding my previous estimation of a 13% profit...but as I stated previously...the 16.5% profit was based on the peak selling price at a $120 buy-in.

 

[loftlife]

I sold out and I am enjoying watching the fluffing...