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glewis22

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Im looking at a Matt Davidson 2010 Bowman Chrome and it says '1st Bowman Chrome Card'. Im also looking at a 2009 Bowman Draft Picks and Prospects Chrome card of Matt Davidson and that says '1st Bowman Chrome Card'???

There are several players this happens to, wtf is going on? Its not their '1st Bowman Chrome Card'?
 

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Topps is clueless to this and will continue doing it. Its like a bunch of chimps are running the show over there
 

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Imagine how many "1st BC" cards those 16-under kids will end up with. :?
 

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sdsportsfan1214 said:
Topps is clueless to this and will continue doing it. Its like a bunch of chimps are running the show over there

This.

They're not lying per se, they are just cluelessly slapping together Excel spreadsheets without referencing previous years' checklists. That is, unless something has changed since 2002. Looks like it hasn't.
 

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carlitoson said:
Imagine how many "1st BC" cards those 16-under kids will end up with. :?

Happily the 16U cards are easy to distinguish, they're the ones with the pretty sparkles and glitter.
 

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I hated the WBC cards, but they did not put 1st Bowman Chrome on them... These 16u kids are going to get this one, an 18u, a collegiate, and their "actual" first I would guess...
 

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Pretty simple.

I think this happens most of the time.... its 2 different products. Bowman Draft.... Bowman Chrome.

Its the same way for nearly every other card you guys bitch about as well.

Bowman has 3 seperate releases.... Bowman w/ Chrome, Bowman Chrome and Bowman Chrome Draft Picks & Prospects.

So a player will debut in Draft... 1st Bowman Chrome..... later they might appear in Bowman w/ Chrome and/or Bowman Chrome... and those will be 1st Bowman Chrome as well... since its a different release.
 

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P_Manning 18 said:
Pretty simple.

I think this happens most of the time.... its 2 different products. Bowman Draft.... Bowman Chrome.

Its the same way for nearly every other card you guys bitch about as well.

Bowman has 3 seperate releases.... Bowman w/ Chrome, Bowman Chrome and Bowman Chrome Draft Picks & Prospects.

So a player will debut in Draft... 1st Bowman Chrome..... later they might appear in Bowman w/ Chrome and/or Bowman Chrome... and those will be 1st Bowman Chrome as well... since its a different release.

If that's your argument, there are two different sets: BCP and BDP. Bowman and Bowman chrome are BCP1-whatever.
 

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It's not a first bowman chrome card until Topps tells us it's a first bowman chrome card - haven't you learned anything yet?
 

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D-Lite said:
I'm just amazed anyone cares.
I'd venture to guess that quite a few folks care. As time goes by and one or more of these players start to develop a huge following, more and more people are going to notice this issue (and care). Granted, it's a relatively small detail, but if a company is going to put something on a card it should be accurate.

Especially when all it takes is researching their own product lines to ensure accuracy. :lol:
 

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It matters because people will get screwed and mislead.

Say Jon Jay becomes a star and his cards skyrocket and people decide to invest/ buy his rookies. If they see his 2008 BC card first, they will assume thats his rookie card since it has the FBC logo on it.

Unless they prospect, they wont know he had a 2006 BCDP card and thats his rookie card.
 

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glewis22 said:
Im looking at a Matt Davidson 2010 Bowman Chrome and it says '1st Bowman Chrome Card'. Im also looking at a 2009 Bowman Draft Picks and Prospects Chrome card of Matt Davidson and that says '1st Bowman Chrome Card'???

There are several players this happens to, wtf is going on? Its not their '1st Bowman Chrome Card'?

From my understanding, and getting Topps definition of your question, all players have it broken down like this:

#1 - If the dude is playing ball somewhere, they'll make a rookie card - there's rookie card #1
#2 - if they make it the big leagues, they get another rookie card for being in the big leagues.
#3 - they get a 3rd year rookie card because they didn't do well their rookie year ( just made that up, but probably true).

So by definition, a player will have 3 years worth of "rookie" cards - MLB must have changed the definition; either that, or it's just "cooler" for Topps to give 3 rookie cards.
 

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wickedliquids said:
glewis22 said:
Im looking at a Matt Davidson 2010 Bowman Chrome and it says '1st Bowman Chrome Card'. Im also looking at a 2009 Bowman Draft Picks and Prospects Chrome card of Matt Davidson and that says '1st Bowman Chrome Card'???

There are several players this happens to, wtf is going on? Its not their '1st Bowman Chrome Card'?

From my understanding, and getting Topps definition of your question, all players have it broken down like this:

#1 - If the dude is playing ball somewhere, they'll make a rookie card - there's rookie card #1
#2 - if they make it the big leagues, they get another rookie card for being in the big leagues.
#3 - they get a 3rd year rookie card because they didn't do well their rookie year ( just made that up, but probably true).

So by definition, a player will have 3 years worth of "rookie" cards - MLB must have changed the definition; either that, or it's just "cooler" for Topps to give 3 rookie cards.

I'm telling you, this is simply because some idiot is sitting in a cubicle slapping together a checklist without refernecing past checklists. I know because I used to be one of those idiots (though they had a different idiot doing Bowman).
 

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Topps lied, prospectors died. And to quote Greg Gutfeld, if you disagree with me you are worse than ******.
 

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carlitoson said:
D-Lite said:
I'm just amazed anyone cares.
I'd venture to guess that quite a few folks care. As time goes by and one or more of these players start to develop a huge following, more and more people are going to notice this issue (and care). Granted, it's a relatively small detail, but if a company is going to put something on a card it should be accurate.

Especially when all it takes is researching their own product lines to ensure accuracy. :lol:
Oh, I'm not arguing that Topps is messing it up or not, but I for one rarely look for the "1st Bowman" or "RC" on a card. I think anyone that is actually collecting knows what they want and the weight of those labels means little.
 

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